Originally Posted by quovadis123
When large companies like that get dishonest, we need to retaliate. We need to get through to the people who have authority and power to change the situation.
I have to agree that corporate thinking these days is something along the lines of "if I can trick you, then its ok to do so". I have found it effective to be loud on forums and such. Its a shame that seeing what you can get away with is the default. A calm, brief explanation of why you think you were wronged on Amazon is extremely effective in my opinion.
Maybe one of the calibration experts here could get this patriot (I work of the navy) on the phone for 15 mins before he ships out, and make sure that one of the zillion odd controls in his tv is not set to something crazy.
I don't think I'm to much of a novice at fiddling with displays and it still look me some time to get mine adjusted so I didn't have what he -may be- calling clouding, but might just be way too much backlight etc, etc. The eco setting and a few other not on the picture adjustment have a large impact...
oh what the hell "iraqgsm" pm me your number and I'll walk you through the settings that work for me on my 55". Basically what AustinJerry uses:
Key thought is backlight only 6 or 7, and on advanced menu everything off/zero except for standard dynamic LED. That really, really cut back on what you might think is clouding. I also like "live color" on low.
Another "trick" is that every "scene select" has its own setting, sometimes many. So I keep my "scene" at cinema and for each HDMI set the picture to use "common" menu rather than a different one for each input. unfortunately you have to do that (just once) for each input. for example...
I'm not sure if the TV came with some crazy pictures setting or I did it, but it took me awhile to figure out that in reality there are 6 or so scenes (general, sports, game, cinema) , for each of 4 HDMI inputs and some scenes have multiple modes like cinema1,2 and custom. So potentially you have dozens and dozens of menus that might accidentally have the backlight way cranked up and not know it because while you may used e.g. a calibration DVD to adjust the picture, the mostly likely case is that you are NOT using that same "scene" and "mode" when watching TV, or apple TV.
That means even if you adjusted it with a DVD, you might be accidentally getting some totally whacked settings. It happened to me...Edited by jjnbos - 12/5/13 at 12:01pm