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post #4171 of 7440
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

So you got the 65" for $500 more ?

yes
post #4172 of 7440
So what do owners do with the side speakers on the XBR if you own a nice 5.1/7.1 Home Theater setup? Too bad you can't remove the speakers -- Be nice if there was a way to use those speakers as the center speaker/channel on a 5.1/7.1 setup ....
post #4173 of 7440
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Originally Posted by JoeG44 View Post

So what do owners do with the side speakers on the XBR if you own a nice 5.1/7.1 Home Theater setup? Too bad you can't remove the speakers -- Be nice if there was a way to use those speakers as the center speaker/channel on a 5.1/7.1 setup ....

I just set the sound to home theater mode and leave them off, then appreciate the way they look while enjoying the 7.1 setup. I know some do not like them and at first I wished they were removable, but they really give it an impressive look. That "monolithic" design, in the end, turned out to be pretty cool. They do sound quite good if you decide to use them.
post #4174 of 7440
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Originally Posted by JoeG44 View Post

Be nice if there was a way to use those speakers as the center speaker/channel on a 5.1/7.1 setup ....

On my 32XBR tube, there was an "external audio in" which when sent "center" line-level signal from receiver, did just what you mentioned. It was nice since the TV's speakers were more than adequate for dialogue material.
post #4175 of 7440
I use them all the time except for movies, then I turn on the Martin Logans!

TV speakers are exceptional, and I never heard tv speakers sound so fantastic..
post #4176 of 7440
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

I use them all the time except for movies, then I turn on the Martin Logans!

TV speakers are exceptional, and I never heard tv speakers sound so fantastic..

900 speakers are excellent for most uses. There is still a big volume difference between apps audio level (they're all over the place) and I also find the audio level from the X1 player has lower levels than Bluray or cable box.

I've used the "volume offset" on the TV to bump up the incoming level, so I get more ride on the TV's volume control.
post #4177 of 7440
thanks for that suggestion; I'll have to try it!
post #4178 of 7440
I have received a few messages about the location of the HDMI 4 port on my replacment TV as referenced earlier:
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Originally Posted by MultimediaGeek View Post

... Worth noting, my new TV has a manufacturing date of July 2013 and has the old style input board or at least the connectors. The box also had a sticker on it saying it was ready for the X1 – which works just as it did before on the previous set. So for some reason, my old style board does not need the HDMI4 add on board that the previous set had. I called Sony about this, and they explained that it was serial number dependent but would not expand on why or what changed within the circuitry to allow the old board to work – can’t really blame them on that.

Unfortunately, I can’t find any pictures in our forum of the back of the set showing the HDMI 4 add-on board with the TV fully assembled. However, LeeSoFl provided several pictures of the installation of the HDMI 4 add-on board.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473062/official-sony-x9-xbr-55x900a-xbr-65x900a-owners-thread/690#post_23530262

My first set had this and the HDMI 4 connector was located somewhere between HDMI 3 and the side edge of the TV. It would be in the smaller rectangular section located in the right side of my image. On my replacement set, I do not have the add-on board for HDMI 4 and yet my replacement set is updated to work with the X1. My HDMI 4 connector is still on the main board in its original position immediately next to HDMI 3.


post #4179 of 7440
On the first version of the 900, the (4) input was in the space now occupied by the plastic slug on the right side of the image.

I would have preferred it be along with (1) and (3) since it would make the bundle of cable cluster together, and in a position parallel to back of the TV. The (4) as I have it, makes the connector stick out at 90°. Also in my install, the few inches of extra cable needed was about as far as it would go.

post #4180 of 7440
So for those who had the HDMI 4 input installed at home, where was that input located before they changed/added the HDMI 4 board?

When I talked to Sony about why I had this location change for HDMI 4 (also had a bad HDMI cable which complicated the discussion horribly), was told that the original version had HDMI 4 located where mine is, then the second version added the HDMI 4 board as a fix moving port to the location off to the side, then they figured a way to make the modifications to the orignal version without using the add-on board.

I was only going by my understanding of what I was told, which may be wrong on my part, theirs, or both smile.gif
post #4181 of 7440
The board was a swap out, so (4) was always where it's located in my photo. They removed the small board, and added the new compliant board, size about 4"x4".

The person at Sony who said that, is wrong. (lately, par for the course.)
post #4182 of 7440
Sorry, just realized you were the person I was quoting from the beginning (with respect to linking the images showing the installation of the add-on board). Thanks for clearing that up.
Edited by MultimediaGeek - 12/8/13 at 7:22am
post #4183 of 7440
okey dokey.
post #4184 of 7440
Hi folk,

I've enjoyed the discussion on the Sony 65X900A. Based on what I have read and seen I went out and picked one up. Mine was manufactured May 2013 and has HDMI 4 all by itself. I also picked up the Sony 4K media player. Everything works well. I was able to plug in the media player and everything worked. I also updated the SW to the latest release. Now my question. I notice that the color drops off pretty quickly as you move from left to right in front of the TV. Basically it seems to me that as you move off center by any more that 45 deg, the picture seems to lighten up quite a bit and get's "washed out". Straight on it looks pertty good (good sharpness and color). I've messed with the settings and they did not seem to make to much of a difference. I've spent time with this TV at Best Buy as well and did not seem to notice such a "sharp" drop-off in color. I did some searches and I read a few reports where some people have complained of off-axis viewing while others say it was fine. I did find one report where someone said they saw one TV where off axis was good and another TV where it was not. So, my question is, has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions on perhaps what setting might help this out? (I did try the setting from the Sound and VIsion review). I am coming from a plasma (Pioneer Elite FHD1). Any chance Sony made other changes to the HW above and beyond the HDMI port move?

Thanks.
post #4185 of 7440
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Originally Posted by gsysak View Post

Hi folk,

I've enjoyed the discussion on the Sony 65X900A. Based on what I have read and seen I went out and picked one up. Mine was manufactured May 2013 and has HDMI 4 all by itself. I also picked up the Sony 4K media player. Everything works well. I was able to plug in the media player and everything worked. I also updated the SW to the latest release. Now my question. I notice that the color drops off pretty quickly as you move from left to right in front of the TV. Basically it seems to me that as you move off center by any more that 45 deg, the picture seems to lighten up quite a bit and get's "washed out". Straight on it looks pertty good (good sharpness and color). I've messed with the settings and they did not seem to make to much of a difference. I've spent time with this TV at Best Buy as well and did not seem to notice such a "sharp" drop-off in color. I did some searches and I read a few reports where some people have complained of off-axis viewing while others say it was fine. I did find one report where someone said they saw one TV where off axis was good and another TV where it was not. So, my question is, has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions on perhaps what setting might help this out? (I did try the setting from the Sound and VIsion review). I am coming from a plasma (Pioneer Elite FHD1). Any chance Sony made other changes to the HW above and beyond the HDMI port move?

Thanks.

Hi Gsyak, I never noticed that on the store sets either. Some folks are content to sit in the middle to not see that problem. I sent you a PM.
Edited by jbug - 12/9/13 at 6:11am
post #4186 of 7440
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Hi Gsyak, I sent you a PM.

I'd like to hear from others about this drop-off problem.
post #4187 of 7440
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Originally Posted by rkolk View Post


I'd like to hear from others about this drop-off problem.


it know as off axis viewing angle. the 2 sets I had home both exhibited what is described by gsyak. I found that the seating distance also affected this. I measured by eye the noticeable loss of picture fidelity at 8', 10'. and at 15' from the screen (totally unscientific). angles were measured using string and a contractors protractor from the center of the set.

 

at 8' it was noticeable at 30 degrees and unacceptable after 45 degrees

at 10' it was noticeable at 35 degrees and unacceptable after 55 degrees

at 15' it was noticeable at 40 degrees and unacceptable after 60 degrees

 

viewing 3D material was unacceptable after 30 degrees from any distance.

 

vertically, in the upward direction it takes very little to see the picture degrade. in the downward direction for 2D about 20 degrees, and 3D less than 10 degrees.

 

Sony's specs for both horizontal and vertical viewing angles are 178 degrees or 89 degrees in either direction.

 

It would appear manufacturers are using a new specification to measure this. "can you tell the set is on at 89 degrees, yes, pass."

post #4188 of 7440

I have the auto update turned off on my XBR-65X900A but it still updated all by itself. I was running PKG3.901AAA and found out in this thread PKG4.000AAA was out. Went to check for the update and was told it was up to date. PKG4.000AAA was already installed, weird. BTW hate auto updates because you never know when a bad one comes out and your stuck with it until a fix comes out.

 

Bill

post #4189 of 7440
I agree on the 3D as well. The viewing angle for 3D is pretty limited. I will say though if you sit in the right position it does look pretty good. I'm torn on the TV. I like the picture, the 3D and the passive glasses as well as the Sony 4K Media box. My room is not that big so in real world applications the viewing angle is not a huge issue but I am a bit concerned that various TVs seem to perform quite a bit differently. I made a measurement and at 14ft I start to see a drop of in color at around 7 feet off center which equates to an off axis viewing angle of around 30 degrees.
post #4190 of 7440
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

900 speakers are excellent for most uses. There is still a big volume difference between apps audio level (they're all over the place) and I also find the audio level from the X1 player has lower levels than Bluray or cable box.

I've used the "volume offset" on the TV to bump up the incoming level, so I get more ride on the TV's volume control.

Hmm, I must be the only one who finds the TV speakers completely unsuitable for any application compared to my 9.1 set up. Just sounds so small and tinny. Granted I haven't used TV speakers in over a decade wink.gif.
post #4191 of 7440
They keyword there is "compared." Having gone through the stacks of amps and wall of speakers in my former life, I'm doing fine with the built-ins.
post #4192 of 7440

Greetings fellow owners.  I am a new comer to Sony televisions, though I have owned Sony receivers and radios in the past.  Over the years my tv's have progressed from Samsung (my first tube tv) to Pioneer (my first plasma PDP-4270HD) and now the XBR-55X900A.

 

For me 55" was ideal due to the price (of course the 65" would have been preferred if funds were unlimited) and size as it had to fit nicely with my Salamander Synergy System entertainment unit.  As for whether it is truly 3D or not, I will leave the discussion to the more technology savvy members.

 

I have yet to adjust the picture quality, but I will as soon as I read up on the guides in this forum.  Out of the box, the sharpness is amazing in comparison to the plasma; PDP-4270 was limited to 780P and had habit of the screening blacking followed by a reset.  So far no clouding issues on the XBR-55X900A, but there are other issues that I will be working with Sony Canada to resolve; see below.

 

Free 1 year Netflix offer. Apparently only for USA customers and does not apply to Canadians.  This sucks as the only registration perk I got was a discount code for related accessories on the online sony.ca store; tried the code and got a message that the code is invalid. The help page in the email is directed to a 404 page.

 

Registration on Sony Essentials.  MAC address listed for the TV, after activating enhancements and keying the code online, does not match the TV's MAC on my network's router.  Not sure if this is a problem.

 

Internet connection; worst for last?.  The TV keep dropping its connection to my home network even though it is hardwired to the router.  Networking was setup both automatically and manually.  Router has the most current firmware and has been rebooted several times.  I have tried enabling and disabling MAC filtering without success.  The ip address in the TV is constant, but the DNS server IPs are always going to 0.0.0.0.

 

Do I regret the purchase?  No, it is a great looking TV which I hope to be using for many years.  I look forward to Sony Canada telephone support, who I will be calling tonight, resolving most of the difficulties.

 

Does anyone know if Sony Canada monitors this site?

post #4193 of 7440
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Originally Posted by Glass-eye View Post

Internet connection; worst for last?.  The TV keep dropping its connection to my home network even though it is hardwired to the router.  Networking was setup both automatically and manually.  Router has the most current firmware and has been rebooted several times.  I have tried enabling and disabling MAC filtering without success.  The ip address in the TV is constant, but the DNS server IPs are always going to 0.0.0.0.

I would call Sony 4K TV support line at 877 619 7669. I don't know if that number works from Canada.

If it doesn't, on the main Sony phone line, there is a prompt for 4K TV support.

Tell them your connection problem, and they will walk you through custom settings, even better and more stable than the TV is going to find for you.

(edited to add numbers)

This is what they had me manually enter
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Primary DNS 4.2.2.2
Secondary 8.8.8.8

I don't know what that means, or whether it helps you, but from that time on, my wired internet has been solid.
Edited by LeeSoFl - 12/9/13 at 11:03am
post #4194 of 7440
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post


I would call Sony 4K TV support line at 877 619 7669. I don't know if that number works from Canada.

If it doesn't, on the main Sony phone line, there is a prompt for 4K TV support.

Tell them your connection problem, and they will walk you through custom settings, even better and more stable than the TV is going to find for you.

(edited to add numbers)

This is what they had me manually enter
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Primary DNS 4.2.2.2
Secondary 8.8.8.8

I don't know what that means, or whether it helps you, but from that time on, my wired internet has been solid.


the DNS servers they have you using are Google's instead of your own ISP's. Its no problem as long as Google keeps them active.

post #4195 of 7440
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

This is what they had me manually enter
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Primary DNS 4.2.2.2
Secondary 8.8.8.8
 

 

thanks for the support telephone numbers, I will give it a try.

 

My subnet mask is the same.  As for the DNS, looks like you are set up to use public DNS servers provided by Level 3 Communications (primary) and Google (secondary).  These are supposedly faster than most DNS servers provided by local internet service providers.  Will give this a try as well.

post #4196 of 7440
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Originally Posted by Glass-eye View Post
 

Greetings fellow owners.  I am a new comer to Sony televisions, though I have owned Sony receivers and radios in the past.  Over the years my tv's have progressed from Samsung (my first tube tv) to Pioneer (my first plasma PDP-4270HD) and now the XBR-55X900A.

 

For me 55" was ideal due to the price (of course the 65" would have been preferred if funds were unlimited) and size as it had to fit nicely with my Salamander Synergy System entertainment unit.  As for whether it is truly 3D or not, I will leave the discussion to the more technology savvy members.

 

I have yet to adjust the picture quality, but I will as soon as I read up on the guides in this forum.  Out of the box, the sharpness is amazing in comparison to the plasma; PDP-4270 was limited to 780P and had habit of the screening blacking followed by a reset.  So far no clouding issues on the XBR-55X900A, but there are other issues that I will be working with Sony Canada to resolve; see below.

 

Free 1 year Netflix offer. Apparently only for USA customers and does not apply to Canadians.  This sucks as the only registration perk I got was a discount code for related accessories on the online sony.ca store; tried the code and got a message that the code is invalid. The help page in the email is directed to a 404 page.

 

Registration on Sony Essentials.  MAC address listed for the TV, after activating enhancements and keying the code online, does not match the TV's MAC on my network's router.  Not sure if this is a problem.

 

Internet connection; worst for last?.  The TV keep dropping its connection to my home network even though it is hardwired to the router.  Networking was setup both automatically and manually.  Router has the most current firmware and has been rebooted several times.  I have tried enabling and disabling MAC filtering without success.  The ip address in the TV is constant, but the DNS server IPs are always going to 0.0.0.0.

 

Do I regret the purchase?  No, it is a great looking TV which I hope to be using for many years.  I look forward to Sony Canada telephone support, who I will be calling tonight, resolving most of the difficulties.

 

Does anyone know if Sony Canada monitors this site?

 

you can get the free year of Netflix if you use a VPN that shows your location as in the US. Or you can also try this link

 

http://discover.store.sony.com/netflix/?mid=6096&rid=%25%25CUSTOM_FIELD_6%25%25&cid=120919801&XID=E:6096:FTL9TVOFFER

 

have you tried setting up the network as wireless? it may prove more stable. there is also a update for the network just below the network setup, make sure each time you change your network settings you do the update.

 

AustinJerry posted some settings here that many are pleased with. You can give them a try.

post #4197 of 7440

If you are ever concerned about the speed of your name servers, you can run a test with a DNS utility like this one:  https://www.grc.com/dns/Benchmark.htm

post #4198 of 7440
Just want to give the rest of the newer owners a heads up. I was able to score the 3 free mastered in 4k Blu-ray movies. I had thought that the offer had expired back in July. Just for the helluvit, I registerd last week and was approved. I received them today.
post #4199 of 7440
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Originally Posted by gsysak View Post

Hi folk,

I've enjoyed the discussion on the Sony 65X900A. Based on what I have read and seen I went out and picked one up. Mine was manufactured May 2013 and has HDMI 4 all by itself. I also picked up the Sony 4K media player. Everything works well. I was able to plug in the media player and everything worked. I also updated the SW to the latest release. Now my question. I notice that the color drops off pretty quickly as you move from left to right in front of the TV. Basically it seems to me that as you move off center by any more that 45 deg, the picture seems to lighten up quite a bit and get's "washed out". Straight on it looks pertty good (good sharpness and color). I've messed with the settings and they did not seem to make to much of a difference. I've spent time with this TV at Best Buy as well and did not seem to notice such a "sharp" drop-off in color. I did some searches and I read a few reports where some people have complained of off-axis viewing while others say it was fine. I did find one report where someone said they saw one TV where off axis was good and another TV where it was not. So, my question is, has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions on perhaps what setting might help this out? (I did try the setting from the Sound and VIsion review). I am coming from a plasma (Pioneer Elite FHD1). Any chance Sony made other changes to the HW above and beyond the HDMI port move?

Thanks.

Love this TV but do not like the limited viewing angle. Same for me, I checked the viewing angles at 2 different stores before buying and did not see any dropoff until I was way off centre. When I got the set home it was a completely different story. If you're not dead centre the picture fades out in the opposite corner to where you're sitting. My wife and I are within 6 feet mainly to see the added detail and bring the screen closer for a more immersive cinematic experience but neither of us is right in the centre and we both see picture fade in the opposite sides of the screen. I'm starting to accept this as normal but man my 32 inch el cheapo LCD in the bedroom has way better off axis viewing angles. Hard to accept in a 5 grand TV....
post #4200 of 7440
wow almost looks like a light bleed had mine replaced for a spider, then replaced again because just one of my corners looked liked yours. u should call sony and say its a light bleed and not clouding.
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