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post #4591 of 7241
you guys need to take a chill pill, freaking out about stuff announced just yesterday..

4k streaming on Netflix will only matter with shows that are shot in 4k; how many of those are there?
what makes you think our TV's wont be able to see the one or 2 shows in the next year that may be streamed in 4k?

any of the sets announced yesterday, will be at LEAST 6 months or more away, and will cost a fortune once they come out

codecs can be easily updated via software updates, so don't get your panties in a bunch until there is even an announcement from Sony about when and if they will deal with that

Expecting to find answers to the stuff announced just yesterday at CES is just plain silly

"When you live on the bleeding edge, expect there to be some bloodshed"..
post #4592 of 7241
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Originally Posted by Arheos View Post

OK should I be a bit scared that the XBR-X900B is announced (also in 65in) and I just bought the 65X900A?

Looking at the details above, will it have a significant enough pic for me to abort my 900A purchase?

I can't find any info regarding when it will be available or the price i.e. for the 65" 900B that is...
i believe you are good with the x900a, cnet said that for the X850B is the model that had any form of local dimming taken away for this year. Thats the model that wont look as good in terms of blacks. They did however added local dimming and even more brightness to the x900B and the X950, but the X950 is the one that will have the best performance above our X9s because of the full array led backlight and deeper blacks. Im willing to bet that model will be close to 7 grand all over again though.
Edited by RiED27880 - 1/7/14 at 6:18am
post #4593 of 7241
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

you guys need to take a chill pill, freaking out about stuff announced just yesterday..

Codecs can be easily updated via software updates, so don't get your panties in a bunch until there is even an announcement from Sony about when and if they will deal with that

Expecting to find answers to the stuff announced just yesterday at CES is just plain silly

"When you live on the bleeding edge, expect there to be some bloodshed"..

I have a feeling Sony isn't thinking of us originals as "one and done" and then they're outta here. Neftlix "House of Cards" does premier in 4K in February though.

post #4594 of 7241
now THAT is what I call a chill pill...

Yeah, there is no way we are one and done, and, frankly, you can't make everyone happy all the time, but so far, I think they have done an exemplary job with questions, issues, and software updates.

You can NEVER have the latest and greatest, because that's just not how the world works; manufacturers always have something bigger and better in development, and face it, they are in this for one reason only; to provide maximum return for themselves and their share holders.

Just remember, you have the best tv technology in your house now with this tv.....and things will only get better for us going down the road!
post #4595 of 7241
There will be a new 4K media server that will handle the new stuff. It was address last night doing the Sony CES Presentation
post #4596 of 7241
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Originally Posted by SonyPhila View Post

There will be a new 4K media server that will handle the new stuff. It was address last night doing the Sony CES Presentation
link or photos please?
post #4597 of 7241
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

link or photos please?

$699 retail but includes 10 free blanks.

post #4598 of 7241
so THAT's what my old 8 track player has been recycled for...
post #4599 of 7241
KS7Iw1

As i know the Glass used on the 850 is different than the X900a. The 850 is contrast black and the 900A is coated with anti-reflective material.

post #4600 of 7241
The new legs are a bad design choice.

With the centered stands you can have a tv stand that is narrower than the width of the tv. Now with these legs at the very end of the tv, you have to get a tv stand that is at least as wide as the tv. Who came up with this silly idea???
post #4601 of 7241
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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

The new legs are a bad design choice.

With the centered stands you can have a tv stand that is narrower than the width of the tv. Now with these legs at the very end of the tv, you have to get a tv stand that is at least as wide as the tv. Who came up with this silly idea???

"highly paid industrial designers"...
post #4602 of 7241
If you can find a replay of the CES Presentation at around the 28:30 mark. He mentions that a new 4K media player will be coming
post #4603 of 7241
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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

The new legs are a bad design choice.

With the centered stands you can have a tv stand that is narrower than the width of the tv. Now with these legs at the very end of the tv, you have to get a tv stand that is at least as wide as the tv. Who came up with this silly idea???

The legs may be adjustable, this is mentioned at least for the new 60W850B, showing the same type legs and describing they will fit large or small stands.

post #4604 of 7241
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

you guys need to take a chill pill, freaking out about stuff announced just yesterday..

I'm a bleeding edge guy. As such, I'm no stranger to being out on a limb with no safety net. I readily accept that. Those experiences have fought me a variety of lessons, some of which I'll lay out below. I will say this - while Sony may very well take good care of 900A owners, the questions are fair to ask. The information was just released, so it's totally normal to expect the bleeding edge folks to react to it.
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

4k streaming on Netflix will only matter with shows that are shot in 4k; how many of those are there?
what makes you think our TV's wont be able to see the one or 2 shows in the next year that may be streamed in 4k?

I'm concerned with the long term future. If the industry made a gear shift to a different standard that these initial hardware units can't support, it's not just about this year's small content library. It's about the vast majority of 4K content going forward. That would make these 4K TV models, which let's not forget that they're still selling btw, very unattractive for future 4K watching.
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

any of the sets announced yesterday, will be at LEAST 6 months or more away, and will cost a fortune once they come out

That's not the point. If you're an owner of one of the current models, or someone who may be in the market for one now, this is a very real issue that needs to be answered.
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

codecs can be easily updated via software updates, so don't get your panties in a bunch until there is even an announcement from Sony about when and if they will deal with that

I certainly hope you're right. But again, asking the question is totally valid. We're not talking about a simple change in the version of an app that's cooler than last year's. The concern is much larger than that. Sony gave us new information about new upcoming products, but like all manufacturers, keeps selling the current ones. Many aspects of the unit I would never expect to be upgradeable or even ask to be. However, this one is absolutely in one of those categories where I want to know.

Honestly, if the current units won't have a proper path to make use of these new apps and content, I'd consider it a personal duty to dissuade people from buying the current models and either wait or look over in Samsung's direction (though similar questions need to be asked about this year's Evo Kit). Besides which, if Sony has to make a decision about whether to go out on a limb to upgrade current sets or not, I'd rather give them feedback now that they should vs. after new sets area released, when it's easier for a corporation to simply turn the page.
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Expecting to find answers to the stuff announced just yesterday at CES is just plain silly

I've posed the question to a couple of folks who are there covering the show. They're going to do their job and ask the questions. Maybe they get nothing, but a show like that is an appropriate place to at least have the questions asked. I'm not assuming that they will or won't do it, I'm asking. I think they have a good guess right now if they will reaosonably be able to upgrade current sets or not. If the answer is "yes, but we have no details to offer at this time", even "unofficially", then fine. No problem and I'll just look to hear more later. But if the answer is in any way no or doubtful, that's something new buyers need to know as part of their purchase decision.
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"When you live on the bleeding edge, expect there to be some bloodshed"..

Totally agree. But question can and should be asked. If for no other reason than to keep "encouraging" companies to do right by their customers.
post #4605 of 7241
Even though the chill pill is wearing off, I still remain (relatively) confident:

Sony Bravia KD-65X9005A review
Editorial Note:
Since this review was first published, Sony has issued an updated response to the critical issue of whether the X9005A series will be capable of working with future 4k formats. That response goes as follows:

"Sony always puts the customer as its number one priority, and Sony will provide all the necessary solutions to 4K TV owners to access future 4K content/services once they start in respective markets."

Sony hasn't yet backed this statement up with technical information on how potential hardware updates to the X9005A TVs might be introduced, but still - a promise is a promise! And since the lack of certainty over the 65X9005A's compatibility with future 4K content was the main reason we only awarded the set an overall score of 9 with our initial review, following Sony's statement of intent we do now feel it is appropriate to upgrade the 65X9005A's overall score to a well-deserved 10.

We've made a couple of minor alterations to the original text below, but for the most part we've left it untouched aside from adding this note.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-65x9005a_TV_review
post #4606 of 7241
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Originally Posted by ashhos View Post

I am purchasing a 65x900a from a friend but he does not have a stand. Anyone has a stand that they would like to sell. I don't have the space to wall mont

Saw this on ebay today, $79. The 65/900 ring diameter is 16" and that is what the ebay seller (whom I contacted) said it was.

".Yes it is. 16"
- rafflemania"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Stand-For-Sony-BRAVIA-XBR-55X850A-55-Class-4K-Ultra-High-Definition-/271363454543?pt=Televisions&hash=item3f2e85b64f

Processed By eBay with ImageMagick, z1.1.0. ||B2
Edited by LeeSoFl - 1/7/14 at 1:50pm
post #4607 of 7241
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

Even though the chill pill is wearing off, I still remain (relatively) confident:

Sony Bravia KD-65X9005A review
Editorial Note:
Since this review was first published, Sony has issued an updated response to the critical issue of whether the X9005A series will be capable of working with future 4k formats. That response goes as follows:

"Sony always puts the customer as its number one priority, and Sony will provide all the necessary solutions to 4K TV owners to access future 4K content/services once they start in respective markets."

Sony hasn't yet backed this statement up with technical information on how potential hardware updates to the X9005A TVs might be introduced, but still - a promise is a promise! And since the lack of certainty over the 65X9005A's compatibility with future 4K content was the main reason we only awarded the set an overall score of 9 with our initial review, following Sony's statement of intent we do now feel it is appropriate to upgrade the 65X9005A's overall score to a well-deserved 10.

We've made a couple of minor alterations to the original text below, but for the most part we've left it untouched aside from adding this note.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-65x9005a_TV_review

Well done. That's a very responsible reviewer follow-up. I wouldn't say that it is necessary in all reviews (though it's always nice to see a revisit by a reviewer months later to see how the product has been to live with over time), but this issue warranted it. I look forward to seeing how it gets implemented.
post #4608 of 7241
On the new Sony televisions that were unveiled at CES, just found out from customer service that the legs are removable and the sets can be mounted on the wall.
post #4609 of 7241
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Originally Posted by brickyardz View Post

On the new Sony televisions that were unveiled at CES, just found out from customer service that the legs are removable and the sets can be mounted on the wall.

Didn't doubt they were or weren't removable, but their location at the outer edge of the frame (as was pointed out by "iatacs") would require a full width piece for the set to be placed on.

The legs might be able to be moved closer to center, although that could seriously alter it's tip-ability.
post #4610 of 7241
First semi-comments/pictures of 85X950(5)

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-kd85x9505_TV_review

modestly priced at £25,000, that $41017 and fifty cents.
post #4611 of 7241
Thank you very much for the heads up
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Sorry it is around the 30:00 minute mark or so.
post #4613 of 7241
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Originally Posted by BillJulyan View Post


The optical out can pass Dolby Digital to an AVR. From the iManual page 167:

"To use multi-channel audio, connect to an external audio system compatible with Dolby Digital using
an optical cable, and select [Audio System].

[Audio System] must be selected to listen to 5.1 multi-channel audio."

I use an optical cable from my XBR to my McIntosh MX121 to pass Dolby Digital from devices connected to the XBR's HDMI inputs (TiVo and DirecTV).

 

Hey, Bill, I want to personally thank you for this tip.  I have been using the optical connection and have wondered why I was only getting two-channel sound.  As soon as I switched to "Audio System" I started receiving 5.1 audio.  This was not an intuitive setting, and (shame on me) I rarely read the User's Manual.

post #4614 of 7241
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Originally Posted by SonyPhila View Post

Sorry it is around the 30:00 minute mark or so.

He mentioned the media player at Time stamp 31:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7_2w1IEM-I
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Great demo 1080p video on Vimeo-- "City Lights" by Colin Rich. Read about it here: http://www.lacanvas.com/inside-colin-richs-city-lights-video/.

Play it on the Sony using the Vimeo app.
post #4617 of 7241
Can someone explain whether HEVC (High Efficiency Coding) that was mentioned at the Sony CES is something that our sets could even process?

CEO spoke of the new sets and the new X player having it, so I take it we in the 900/850 bunch don't have it.
post #4618 of 7241
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Originally Posted by rgbyhkr View Post

Well done. That's a very responsible reviewer follow-up. I wouldn't say that it is necessary in all reviews (though it's always nice to see a revisit by a reviewer months later to see how the product has been to live with over time), but this issue warranted it. I look forward to seeing how it gets implemented.


One way to interpret that might be an allusion to the new media player they are planning on selling/releasing, rather than an actual update to the televisions themselves.
post #4619 of 7241
Thread Starter 
Have been away from the thread for awhile. Can anyone tell me the status of the HDMI 2.0 upgrade? Is it necessary to swap boards or was the X9 already sporting HDMI 2.0 and needs only a software update?
Edited by electrofascist - 1/7/14 at 6:55pm
post #4620 of 7241
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Hey, Bill, I want to personally thank you for this tip.  I have been using the optical connection and have wondered why I was only getting two-channel sound.  As soon as I switched to "Audio System" I started receiving 5.1 audio.  This was not an intuitive setting, and (shame on me) I rarely read the User's Manual.

Seconded. I had resigned myself to stereo on my headphones (which was a shame considering) and this oughta solve that. Thanks for that!
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