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post #5041 of 7080
Seems like every single question i ask in this thread is ignored and spam bashed...

I guess its time to make individual threads pertaining to the same tv to add to the clutter of the forums...
post #5042 of 7080
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Originally Posted by burts View Post

Ive been using netflix through my tv cause my Apple TV is giving me problems and im having to turn my tv volume way high to be able to hear voices in netflix.

Is this normal, im on 73, if i were to turn it back to my cable box it would be blasting....

i take it outputting to my avr would take a additional optical cable...

Burts,

Load application such as Crackle, go Options>Sound>Volume offset> raise it to about 4.

This will raise all applications including Neflix to be louder on the preamp side to the TV. It will not affect other inputs, only apps.

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post #5043 of 7080
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Originally Posted by burts View Post

Seems like every single question i ask in this thread is ignored and spam bashed...

I guess its time to make individual threads pertaining to the same tv to add to the clutter of the forums...

Burts,

You shouldn't take it personally, most, including me, will not answer if they don't know of a solution. Also, as the newness of the television wears off, people leave. There has been more "go" than "come" lately.

It would be best to search this forum for some of the keywords you're concerned about.

As an example of searching in this forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch/?search=volume+offset&resultSortingPreference=recency&byuser=&output=posts&sdate=0&newer=1&type=all&containingthread%5B0%5D=1473062&advanced=1

PS: I did answer your questions from 9/10 and 9/23.

Good luck,

Lee
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Edited by LeeSoFl - 1/28/14 at 10:53am
post #5044 of 7080
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Originally Posted by burts View Post

How do i output netflix sound to my avr? i been using my Apple TV for netflix but it buffers too much..

Not sure about this, but doesn't ARC from TV back to receiver carry app's audio?

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post #5045 of 7080
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Originally Posted by burts View Post

H.265?

Will we be left out for forking over thousands too early?

HEVC is still in question for first gen buyers. Read back in this forum to start of CES (early Jan) where there are a lot of posts speculating on whether we're in or not.

Could be TV needs s/w download, could be TV needs new media player with H.265.

Stay tuned.

Lee
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post #5046 of 7080
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Originally Posted by burts View Post

I seem to enjoy the general setting more then the cinema setting, is this normal? Cinema seems to make the picture more dull...

I was a fan of general until I was won over by Austin Jerry's settings in the Cinema mode. His suggested settings are at the end of each of his posts.

I still tend to use general for hockey games, and probably Sunday's Superbowl too.


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post #5047 of 7080
whew, I'm tired.


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post #5048 of 7080
The new media box coming later this year will include an H.265 decoder, so early adopters won't be left out in the cold. Saw this on Sony's CES press conference when they were talking about the new TV models coming out soon.
post #5049 of 7080
Hmmm. Perhaps that's why Sony didn't bother with the mk.1 media player outside of the US, they were testing it on y'all and waiting for HEVC to come along before making their play elsewhere.

I'm still holding out for 4K Blu-ray, but it'd better come along soon otherwise it'll find itself battling for position in a crowded 4K marketplace, which will do for 4K what all those exclusives and non-compatible glasses did for 3D: kill it at birth.

That said, there's still scope for a 4K Blu-ray + streamer/downloader all-in-one kinda deal.
post #5050 of 7080
Thank you Lee👍

Really appreciate it
post #5051 of 7080
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post

HEVC is still in question for first gen buyers. Read back in this forum to start of CES (early Jan) where there are a lot of posts speculating on whether we're in or not.

Could be TV needs s/w download, could be TV needs new media player with H.265.

Stay tuned.

Lee
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I would think this really depends on the CPU that in these sets. I haven't found a whole lot of info on that - I know other brands brag about 4-core CPUs and what that does for apps, etc. Sony's marketing doesn't really touch that. Does anyone know what's in here? Because knowing that would help us understand if this guy can decode HVEC/h.265.

That being said, I would guess most people that have one of these sets have one device attached to it that are also media players (next-gen consoles, Apple TV, etc) - so waiting for Sony to tell us vs one of those guys shouldn't matter much. Just a matter of time.

-t
post #5052 of 7080

This is the answer that Sony Italy - Press Office gave to me in response to my question about the future strategies of Sony for early adopters of 4K TVs, in particular for the possibility that our sets will be upgraded to the HEVC - H.265 codecs support:

 

"Dear Andrew,

 

when new content and services that require this new codec will be available, Sony will provide its customers with the solutions they need to access them."

 

yeah, we'll see....

post #5053 of 7080
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Originally Posted by mitico303 View Post

This is the answer that Sony Italy - Press Office gave to me in response to my question about the future strategies of Sony for early adopters of 4K TVs, in particular for the possibility that our sets will be upgraded to the HEVC - H.265 codecs support:

"Dear Andrew,

when new content and services that require this new codec will be available, Sony will provide its customers with the solutions they need to access them."

yeah, we'll see....



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post #5054 of 7080
well, my new 55x900A was delivered last weekend and i had a bit of time to play with it. I was extremely lucky that the uniformities on this set are near perfect! inky blacks, no clouding or edge bleed whats so ever on dark scenes, even on 3D mode. I was nervous at first because i've seen other horror stories on line but i was very fortunate. Now, There is however that same issue present i traded my original set to begin with, but not as obvious. The issue is, When objects move fast in dark scenes, such as people, the hair line or edge sometimes looks red. Once you notice it it can be very distracting. I am convinced this had something to do with the lastest updates because my old set was perfect before the last few changes done to the tv last month. The defect was far more noticeable on the last tv, but it is still there on this one. Since most of you have the 65", can you guys see this issue on your tv? or is this another unfortunate issue plagued on only 55" owners as well? i read here that a couple of other people have experienced the same thing on their sets and beign that this is my second, i think its not just me complaining. I am ussing the cinema 1 settings on nearly all my inputs which makes the issue less noticeable, but at this price point, i would expect the set to perform better. Im not using the vivid mode, or "torch mode" to just say its the over saturaded setting that's at fault, so why is this happening? Other than that, the picture quality looks stunning! I hope sony reads this and trys to send an update of some sort to try correct the problem because other than that its an outstanding tv and i love it. Feed back is greatly appreciated smile.gif
post #5055 of 7080
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Originally Posted by RiED27880 View Post

well, my new 55x900A was delivered last weekend and i had a bit of time to play with it. I was extremely lucky that the uniformities on this set are near perfect! inky blacks, no clouding or edge bleed whats so ever on dark scenes, even on 3D mode. I was nervous at first because i've seen other horror stories on line but i was very fortunate. Now, There is however that same issue present i traded my original set to begin with, but not as obvious. The issue is, When objects move fast in dark scenes, such as people, the hair line or edge sometimes looks red. Once you notice it it can be very distracting. I am convinced this had something to do with the lastest updates because my old set was perfect before the last few changes done to the tv last month. The defect was far more noticeable on the last tv, but it is still there on this one. Since most of you have the 65", can you guys see this issue on your tv? or is this another unfortunate issue plagued on only 55" owners as well? i read here that a couple of other people have experienced the same thing on their sets and beign that this is my second, i think its not just me complaining. I am ussing the cinema 1 settings on nearly all my inputs which makes the issue less noticeable, but at this price point, i would expect the set to perform better. Im not using the vivid mode, or "torch mode" to just say its the over saturaded setting that's at fault, so why is this happening? Other than that, the picture quality looks stunning! I hope sony reads this and trys to send an update of some sort to try correct the problem because other than that its an outstanding tv and i love it. Feed back is greatly appreciated smile.gif

I also hit the jackpot with screen uniformity on my 65". None of the issues reported here. I do not see red edge during motion.
post #5056 of 7080
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Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post

We've had 10 days below zero in January alone this year...
Thanks for the Global warming, Al Gore..

Don't want to start a huge global warming flame war, but I do feel it's time to stand up for the truth: global warming is a fact. People cause it. Even the oil and insurance companies have acknowledged this.

As far as cold weather goes, the expected result is, as Lee points out, increased variability in WEATHER and increased heat in CLIMATE. Climate being the long term average of weather. That's an important distinction.

The stock market goes up and it goes down on a daily basis. Everyday some stocks are up, others down, and everyday that mix is different. What does that prove? Hopefully you agree, not too much. If an individual company's stock is going up and down on a daily basis, but trending steadily down year after year; what would the smart conclusion be? end of sermon.
post #5057 of 7080

Here is some food for thought.

 

Quite frankly, my Netflix looks quite poor. Dark scenes are pixel-tearing-full. Super HD my posterior.

During peak hours Apple tv has a motion judder thing going on. The picture is not that great anyway. Dark scenes look awful.

 

The only good quality stuff I can see on this Tv are blu ray movies, and some Comcast HD channels. But then again, blue rays look great on almost every other Tv!

 

I am wondering if we are not all idiots for having purchased this $5,500 tv, when any other "normal" tv would have looked perfectly fine with the poor quality of streaming services provided?

 

In hindsight, remember the time we saw this Tv with the Sony advertisement in red with the little girl? It was in 4k and looked super-stunning. How many people have been conned by those visuals?

Those are the visuals which led me to perform an "impulse buy". An educated "impulse buy", because I read the whole forum before buying the Tv. 

I think that reading the forum was the "justification" portion of the purchase I was about to perform.

 

At that time, little did I know, that I would never see any quality come close to the "little girl in red".

 

I'm wondering, if instead of the 4k elusive blue-bird-of-happiness, I should not have purchased a lesser quality Tv at 80". There is definitely no "con" on the 80". They are real inches!

 

I will always remember early on in the forum, reading a post of a guy saying that Sony's flagship of last year, looked just as good as this tv, and we we were all idiots for falling for the 4k version.

I also remember the resentment I had toward the person posting such nonsense!?

 

Comments!?

post #5058 of 7080
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post

Here is some food for thought.

I am wondering if we are not all idiots for having purchased this $5,500 tv, when any other "normal" tv would have looked perfectly fine with the poor quality of streaming services provided?

Comments!?

It has crossed my mind that I should have waited get the second generation. The bleeding edge is always painful; but I don't regret being the egg that the industry needs to grow a chicken so we'll get 4k content; or something like that :-)

I do think the expanded color gamut and all that jazz is great even on 1080p, which is in short supply itself as you point out. Every time I see some local content shot on 240i or whatever, I get annoyed.

You can get all the stuff on our set on a great 1080p set. But they cost almost as much as a 4k set. And IMHO 1080p does look better on this set because of the upscaling. I'll wager they designed this set when they thought 1080p in 3d (aka 2160p) would be huge. But 3d was a flop, and my 55" doesn't do 3d (correctly) :-( That broken 3D sticks in my craw even if I never watch 3d.

But if it turns out 4k is a flop, I'll still have great 1080p, but at a cost of 1/3 extra or something. Not best outcome, or the best use of money, but not the end of the world (for that see my global warming rant).

I will say that the sound is SOOOO good that the Wife Approval Factor (WAF) was no problem even for a huge TV taking over the living room because we punted the AV system and cleaned up the wall. So I'd be content if nothing changes, but I agree we need some content...
Edited by jjnbos - 2/1/14 at 12:37am
post #5059 of 7080
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post


I am wondering if we are not all idiots for having purchased this $5,500 tv, when any other "normal" tv would have looked perfectly fine with the poor quality of streaming services provided?

I sometimes have this thought as well. However, I was a very early adopter of HDTV (pre-1080p even) - and all the frustrations of watching low-res content on a high res screen I had back then are coming back to me... I get to see all the cheats that the broadcasters take with 'HD', etc. I'm just hopeful (and eager) that 4k content will help put all these feelings away once it does come. And this TV was still a major upgrade over the Mitsu DLP I had been watching for the past 8 years. I knew what I was getting into - early adopters have such first world problems. I was thinking that Sony would have PS4 4k streaming online by now, but no word on when that is going to happen... That being said, my streaming content has looked very good - almost as good as blu-ray in some cases (local AppleTV mp4 streaming and Netflix SuperHD). For non-broadcast content, this set is great in my opinion.
post #5060 of 7080
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Originally Posted by flinchn View Post

I also hit the jackpot with screen uniformity on my 65". None of the issues reported here. I do not see red edge during motion.

then this must be a defect on the 55" model then frown.gif just another reason to go for the 65" for anyone shopping.
post #5061 of 7080
i'm thinking of selling my x1 media player. Not 100% sure if i will, but i have a feeling that the new one coming out might be a better choice do to the new codec. I also find myself using my bluray player which upscales close to 4k more than the media player. Not sure if i should though, as its the only way to truely appreciate true 4k right now. I'm more of a disc person though. I would rather a 4k bluray disc. I also have the ps4, so i realy dont use the X1 that much these days. anyone else thought of selling theirs?
post #5062 of 7080
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Originally Posted by RiED27880 View Post

i'm thinking of selling my x1 media player. Not 100% sure if i will, but i have a feeling that the new one coming out might be a better choice do to the new codec. I also find myself using my bluray player which upscales close to 4k more than the media player. Not sure if i should though, as its the only way to truely appreciate true 4k right now. I'm more of a disc person though. I would rather a 4k bluray disc. I also have the ps4, so i realy dont use the X1 that much these days. anyone else thought of selling theirs?

Here's some wishful thinking for you....

I don't want to sell it, in the hopes that Sony will provide some type of buyback or trade-in program for us early adopters with the X1 for the X2 or whatever they call it. But as of now, the media player has not been that great to own. Movies are priced way to high and there are not enough small clips for free.
post #5063 of 7080
I really think you owners should get together and draft a formal letter of complaint to Sony Japan, letting them know just how disappointed you are with their products. They have lost their North American sales lead in UHD displays to Samsung, so they're quite likely to bend over backwards to keep what few customers they have. Sony used to stand for high-quality, cutting-edge products, and from what he's stated in many interviews, Kazuo Hirai plans on doing whatever it takes to regain that reputation. I'm certain if the issues and concerns you've all expressed here are brought directly to his attention, he will at least take them seriously.
post #5064 of 7080
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post


I am wondering if we are not all idiots for having purchased this $5,500 tv, when any other "normal" tv would have looked perfectly fine with the poor quality of streaming services provided?

Ah, good old buyer's remorse. Me, I don't regret buying it for a second. The calibrated PQ on my 55" is utterly fantastic with HD sources (off-air, Blu-ray, USB) which is exactly what I bought it for, and even things like my old Laserdiscs and game consoles (Sega Saturn FTW!) scrub up very nicely. The 3D, even at 'only' 540p, is staggeringly good and was another reason why I bought it. Third reason is the amazing sound, which seems to be getting even better as the set ages and the speakers 'wear in'.

Actual 4K content - when we Britishers bloody well get some, that is - is just a bonus. That'll be the gravy on top.

And I've said it before about how good the uniformity of these screens are compared to other "normal" Sony 2013 models, and they're worth the money for that aspect alone. Superb blacks, no DSE, no banding/pillars, excellent backlight uniformity (aside from the aforementioned sidelighting artefact, which is only a minor niggle), my 55" is a stunning TV and I loves it, precious.
post #5065 of 7080
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Ah, good old buyer's remorse. Me, I don't regret buying it for a second. The calibrated PQ on my 55" is utterly fantastic with HD sources (off-air, Blu-ray, USB) which is exactly what I bought it for, and even things like my old Laserdiscs and game consoles (Sega Saturn FTW!) scrub up very nicely. The 3D, even at 'only' 540p, is staggeringly good and was another reason why I bought it. Third reason is the amazing sound, which seems to be getting even better as the set ages and the speakers 'wear in'.

Actual 4K content - when we Britishers bloody well get some, that is - is just a bonus. That'll be the gravy on top.

And I've said it before about how good the uniformity of these screens are compared to other "normal" Sony 2013 models, and they're worth the money for that aspect alone. Superb blacks, no DSE, no banding/pillars, excellent backlight uniformity (aside from the aforementioned sidelighting artefact, which is only a minor niggle), my 55" is a stunning TV and I loves it, precious.

I'm in this camp; this tv is fantastic; some folks just dont have realistic expectations about the speed in which new technology gets mainstreamed...with all the "new" 4k sets coming onto the market soon, my belief is that there will be tons more 4k content coming in 2014.

My only disappointment was the price drops that happened so quickly, but, being a Best Buy Silver card Elite, they credited me 500 bucks when the price dropped, even though it was 60 days after I bought mine!
Plus, I got my X1 for 100 bucks, waited for it to go on "promo", so I couldn't be happier about my television set up at this point..We all knew, or, you should have done your homework, on what movies were on the X1, and what the pricing was at the time. I dont recall Sony EVER saying there would be 100's of 4K movies available by Feb 1, 2014, or that they would let you rent them for 99 cents...Sure, I wish there were more, and sure I wish they were all 99cents to rent..But I also wish I would win the lottery, I wish there was world peace, I wish no child would go to bed hungry, and I wish Al Gore would bring some damn Global warming to Chicago already!!(Sorry, had to throw that in biggrin.gif)
post #5066 of 7080
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Ah, good old buyer's remorse. Me, I don't regret buying it for a second. The calibrated PQ on my 55" is utterly fantastic with HD sources (off-air, Blu-ray, USB) which is exactly what I bought it for, .

With you 100%, i still cant wait to watch mine everyday, the upscalling kills anything ive ever owned, i sold my 1080p samsung and i was embarrassed looking at the picture (comparing to what im used to now) when i showed it to the buyer, he loved it though
post #5067 of 7080
No problems with my 65inch set. Netflix and anything else I put on it looks great..
post #5068 of 7080
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Originally Posted by rockaway1836 View Post

No problems with my 65inch set. Netflix and anything else I put on it looks great..

Does your Neflix connection run at SuperHD all the time? As stated in my recent posts, I'm getting 720HD or 480SD in the evenings (like when I want to watch something.)


Lee
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post #5069 of 7080
I've only seen SuperHD once on the TV. I have it hardwired to a 16Mbps connection.

I usually get 1080p but sometimes it will drop down.
post #5070 of 7080
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Originally Posted by quovadis123 View Post
 

Here is some food for thought.

 

Quite frankly, my Netflix looks quite poor. Dark scenes are pixel-tearing-full. Super HD my posterior.

During peak hours Apple tv has a motion judder thing going on. The picture is not that great anyway. Dark scenes look awful.

 

The only good quality stuff I can see on this Tv are blu ray movies, and some Comcast HD channels. But then again, blue rays look great on almost every other Tv!

 

I am wondering if we are not all idiots for having purchased this $5,500 tv, when any other "normal" tv would have looked perfectly fine with the poor quality of streaming services provided?

 

In hindsight, remember the time we saw this Tv with the Sony advertisement in red with the little girl? It was in 4k and looked super-stunning. How many people have been conned by those visuals?

Those are the visuals which led me to perform an "impulse buy". An educated "impulse buy", because I read the whole forum before buying the Tv.

I think that reading the forum was the "justification" portion of the purchase I was about to perform.

 

At that time, little did I know, that I would never see any quality come close to the "little girl in red".

 

I'm wondering, if instead of the 4k elusive blue-bird-of-happiness, I should not have purchased a lesser quality Tv at 80". There is definitely no "con" on the 80". They are real inches!

 

I will always remember early on in the forum, reading a post of a guy saying that Sony's flagship of last year, looked just as good as this tv, and we we were all idiots for falling for the 4k version.

I also remember the resentment I had toward the person posting such nonsense!?

 

Comments!?

 

You say some of the most peculiar things.  Why would you call us idiots?  Since your post, several respected contributors to this thread have come forward to dispute your rant.  I count myself among those who feel the X900 delivers excellent picture quality when fed high quality source content.

 

If you get excellent PQ from one source (Blu-ray) and poor PQ from other sources (Netflix client and Comcast), then it's the quality of the source material that is at fault.  Did you run the Netflix speed test I described in a recent post?  If you are not getting the appropriate thru-put, PQ will suffer.  But that is NOT the fault of the set.

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