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Yes. To each their own. I'm quite susceptible group think. I didn't even know or notice a soap opera effect until after reading up on motion flow and how undesirable it is for film content. Then - I couldn't ignore it.

I can't use clear, clear plus or impulse unless I recalibrate with them on. They have a tangible impact on luminance, and for 3d (even if it was available) I already have backlight an contrast near max
Edited by flinchn - 2/24/14 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

:)Sorry, slightly OT, but has anyone been watching Masterpiece Classic (Downton Abbey) on PBS HD? With such breathtaking scenery, I would expect the PQ to be stunning, but instead I find it has a lot of ghosting artifacts, especially on facial close-ups. I'm curious whether it is the quality of my local PBS feed to DirecTV, or whether the actual program source is flawed. I plan to record it OTA for the final episode to see if there is any difference.

If anyone is watching this program, or perhaps has an episode on the DVR, I would be interested in feedback. I know it isn't my calibration! cool.gif
was the ghosting like a reddish motion artifact on faces?
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Originally Posted by flinchn View Post

I'm still torn on this, but I find the soap opera effect much less offensive when watching 3d content. I don't know why that is. ...

To me, SOE looks like fake 3d.
Obviously real 3d has real depth so perhaps...
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Perhaps that's it. I will say that the number one thing that improved or enhanced 3d depth for me was my Darbee Darblet purchase.
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Originally Posted by jjnbos View Post

To me, SOE looks like fake 3d.
Obviously real 3d has real depth so perhaps...
am i the only one here that enjoy the "smooth" motion effect on films and sports on this set? why anyone likes the look of a 720p at 60hz tv on a film i will never understand. LOL To me, smooth motion @ 960 feels like I'm on the set with life like motion and not "fake" or "SOE" as some call it, But to each their own i guess;wink.gif
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I just purchased the 65XBR900A and was thinking about buying the media player but seems like a good many negative reviews.Is there a separate forum for the media server? thanks, Ron
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Originally Posted by rsnyder005 View Post

I just purchased the 65XBR900A and was thinking about buying the media player but seems like a good many negative reviews.Is there a separate forum for the media server? thanks, Ron
There is a dedicated thread but its just dead. Best to ask here.
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Originally Posted by rsnyder005 View Post

I just purchased the 65XBR900A and was thinking about buying the media player but seems like a good many negative reviews.Is there a separate forum for the media server? thanks, Ron

As a reference point the thread is at:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467859/sony-4k-media-streamer-fmp-x1-699-coming-summer-2013

...but finchn is right, it's been very quiet there, with most of the comments revolving around getting or not getting the 10 loaded films that were part of the original sales offer.

Honestly, since you're getting the 900A now, I would hold off on the 4K player and see what's offered up this Spring/Summer. That is unless they're selling the player at a rock bottom price.

Lee
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I have just been informed...

 

I am not sure that everyone (or at least those who are seriously looking to purchase the X900 A version) is aware that the firmware update that updated the HDMI to 2.0 - only updated HDMI #4 to 2.0 - and not all of them.

 

I was just made aware of this - as I assumed that the update, updated all of the HDMI inputs to 2.0 - and not just one.

 

Whether or not that matters - depends on you...

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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

I have just been informed...

I am not sure that everyone (or at least those who are seriously looking to purchase the X900 A version) is aware that the firmware update that updated the HDMI to 2.0 - only updated HDMI #4 to 2.0 - and not all of them.

I was just made aware of this - as I assumed that the update, updated all of the HDMI inputs to 2.0 - and not just one.

Whether or not that matters - depends on you...

Huh. I said they would pull this pages ago before the update came out. Guess I will end up using the X1 as a real hockey puck.
Edited by flinchn - 2/24/14 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

I have just been informed...

I am not sure that everyone (or at least those who are seriously looking to purchase the X900 A version) is aware that the firmware update that updated the HDMI to 2.0 - only updated HDMI #4 to 2.0 - and not all of them.

I was just made aware of this - as I assumed that the update, updated all of the HDMI inputs to 2.0 - and not just one.

Whether or not that matters - depends on you...

From Nov 2013:
The firmware update was announced by Sony Japan in a press release earlier this week, which stated that once the free update is installed, the company’s Bravia 55-inch and 65-inch X8 and X9 series will be able to receive 2160p/60 signal through the fourth HDMI port (which is not ARC-enabled) from a variety of mediums, including future 4K Blu-rays, video game consoles, 4K-compatible satellite receivers, multimedia players and 4K scalers.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-update-201311283477.htm

I'm surprised you're treating this as a new revelation.

Lee
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Originally Posted by LeeSoFl View Post


From Nov 2013:
The firmware update was announced by Sony Japan in a press release earlier this week, which stated that once the free update is installed, the company’s Bravia 55-inch and 65-inch X8 and X9 series will be able to receive 2160p/60 signal through the fourth HDMI port (which is not ARC-enabled) from a variety of mediums, including future 4K Blu-rays, video game consoles, 4K-compatible satellite receivers, multimedia players and 4K scalers.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-update-201311283477.htm

I'm surprised you're treating this as a new revelation.

Lee
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I, and others (as seen above) are treating it as new information...

 

Not everyone reads Sony's press releases... :p

 

Why on earth would they just update 1 port and not the others....? Or at the very least 2...

 

So you have a 4K TV - that can only use the full benefits of 4K in 1 of its HDMI ports...

 

And the 1 HDMI 2.0 port is not ARC-enabled either...?

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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

I, and others (as seen above) are treating it as new information...

Not everyone reads Sony's press releases... tongue.gif

Why on earth would they just update 1 port and not the others....? Or at the very least 2...

So the HDMI 2.0 port is not ARC-enabled either...?

Could there be a technical reason why all of the ports could not have been upgraded to HDMI 2.0? Or perhaps Sony does not anticipate first-gen owners needing more than one v2.0-capable port due to the lack of UHD sources? I suppose you could just route all of your 4K sources through a 4K-capable receiver, so one port is all you really need.
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Originally Posted by Rudy1 View Post

Could there be a technical reason why all of the ports could not have been upgraded to HDMI 2.0? Or perhaps Sony does not anticipate first-gen owners needing more than one v2.0-capable port due to the lack of UHD sources? I suppose you could just route all of your 4K sources through a 4K-capable receiver, so one port is all you really need.

At the moment there are no HDMI 2 device at all so how could anyone need more than one ? :-)
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

I, and others (as seen above) are treating it as new information...

Not everyone reads Sony's press releases... tongue.gif

Why on earth would they just update 1 port and not the others....? Or at the very least 2...

So you have a 4K TV - that can only use the full benefits of 4K in 1 of its HDMI ports...

And the 1 HDMI 2.0 port is not ARC-enabled either...?

I am not 100% positive on this as there is no way to test it but my understanding was that with the initial release of the firmware, it only applied to HDMI 4 but the later firmware releases, applied the upgrade to the other ports as well.

Since the puck needs to hog that HDMI 4 port all to itself, it would only make sense if they allowed the other ports to also be 2.0 compliant.
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I think the HDMI4 board swap was probably a prerequisite for HDMI 2.0. I'm not going to seriously get too worked up about it- it wasn't a spec at purchase and they didn't have to provide it at all.
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Originally Posted by flinchn View Post

I think the HDMI4 board swap was probably a prerequisite for HDMI 2.0. I'm not going to seriously get too worked up about it- it wasn't a spec at purchase and they didn't have to provide it at all.

No, that was only to make it HDCP 2.2 compatible for the puck!
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So I have a strdn 1040. It's a 4k pass thru amp. Do I connect the out to HDMI 1 or 4? Or it doesn't matter since nothing running thru the amp is 4k based. I assumed everything is up scaled to 4k no matter what hdmi input I use.
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Originally Posted by flinchn View Post

I think the HDMI4 board swap was probably a prerequisite for HDMI 2.0. 

 

Yes, that is what I was told by a Sony employee who deals specifically with the X900...

 

That they had to change out the HDMI board - and only changed out #4

 

Obviously, so they could sell their X1 player...

 

So none of the other HDMI inputs are 2.0...

 

And the only 2.0 input is not ARC-enabled...

 

Again, whether or not this matters - is up to you...


Edited by HDTVAV - 2/24/14 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by benes View Post

From the translated Sony press release:

Input terminals of all of HDMI1 ~ 4 will be 4K/60p


I thought we had already determined that all the HDMI ports are 2.0 now but only port 4 has HDCP 2.2.

That could be and "yippee" for us. I didn't follow the 2.0 update very closely, other than to know they did their due on Dec 19th or so.

The articles I had read (and actually posted on Sony Community site) were from Oct/Nov '13 when they said they were preparing an update.

Lee
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I'm considering the 2014 900B and was wondering if the left and right speaker array can be used as the front left and right channel from an AV receiver? IOW, you'd use your home theater speakers for all channels but the front left and right.

Does the 900 allow this configuration?
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The 900A speakers cannot be used as the front right/left speakers for a home theater. I don't believe the 900B will allow this either.
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

I'm considering the 2014 900B and was wondering if the left and right speaker array can be used as the front left and right channel from an AV receiver? IOW, you'd use your home theater speakers for all channels but the front left and right.

Does the 900 allow this configuration?
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Originally Posted by Magiken View Post

Hello All,

Network question: In an effort to get a more consistent Netflix performance, I've now hard-wired my TV (Cat 6 to switch-router-modem) and in a bit of a head-scratcher the connection is slower than the former wifi connection. I've checked the new connection/cable via my laptop and it's blazing fast (as expected) but connected through the TV, it drops at least 60% in speed (according to a couple online speed tests). Any ideas what is happening? Incidentally, I've also tried this on my 55W900A and got a similar result.

Forgot to add: Netflix performance was essentially unchanged between the wifi and the hard-wired tests.
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As some of you might know, I am taking the jump from a 65" Panasonic VT series plasma TV to the Sony X900 LED...

 

Excuse my "ignorance" - but is there any need to do any "breaking-in" or "aging" of the LED panel - like there is with plasma?

 

I am assuming no - but, as I have found out many times, it is never safe to assume anything...

 

Thanks!

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Has anyone noticed vertical banding on this set during landscape shots?
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

As some of you might know, I am taking the jump from a 65" Panasonic VT series plasma TV to the Sony X900 LED...

Excuse my "ignorance" - but is there any need to do any "breaking-in" or "aging" of the LED panel - like there is with plasma?

I am assuming no - but, as I have found out many times, it is never safe to assume anything...

Thanks!

No special handling that I know of, or did when I got my 65/900 in June.

Set it and forget it! Well not really but ENJOY!

Lee
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Originally Posted by Darkknightman View Post

Has anyone noticed vertical banding on this set during landscape shots?

Are you talking about like a dark/grey banding or something else? Because, if so - yes I do notice that - particularly on scenes that pan across from left to right or vice-versa.
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Originally Posted by HDTVAV View Post

As some of you might know, I am taking the jump from a 65" Panasonic VT series plasma TV to the Sony X900 LED...

Excuse my "ignorance" - but is there any need to do any "breaking-in" or "aging" of the LED panel - like there is with plasma?

I am assuming no - but, as I have found out many times, it is never safe to assume anything...

Thanks!

I have read of the AVS forums that LEDs can settle in over the first hundred hours and that ISF calibrators have noticed some drift in the proper settings - however they claim that this is so minor there would be nothing going on that was eye perceivable.
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