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Compressing F-Connector - not working properly. First timer...

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Ok so I bought this:

http://www.amazon.com/Coax-Compression-Connector-Adjustable-Tool/dp/B0042PNZM4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

and this (this works great):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HRWOTQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and these from Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-RG-6-Compression-F-Connector-10-Pack-92-651/202276273#.UZWF0rWG3Tg

From the videos I have watched you want to push the cable into the connection until the white insulation butts up to the end of the connector. Crimp and done. Well I cannot seem to get the white insulation to butt up to the end of the connector. After looking at the connectors the inside sleeve that houses the insulation part of the cable looks to be much longer than what my tool cuts to in length.

Do I have the wrong connectors?

Do I need ones like this maybe?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-OmniConn-RG-6-Compression-F-Connectors-10-Pack-89-019/202825156#.UZWHObWG3Tg

Thanks for the help.

Edit: I noticed the cable is RG6/U not just RG6. Do I need different connectors for this cable?

Edit 2: I think I need quad shield connectors after doing some reading but I do not have a clue where to find those. I'd like to get them local if I can. I'm in DFW
Edited by Chad711 - 5/16/13 at 9:15pm
post #2 of 15
The second connectors to which you linked are universal, which means that they can be used on standard dual-shield, tri-shield, or quad-shield cable.

RG6 and RG6/U are the same cable.

When you strip the cable, there should be 1/4" of bare center conductor sticking out, followed by 1/4" of braid, foil, and dielectric (white insulation). You fold the braid back over the outer jacket, leaving the foil (which should be bonded to the dielectric) in place. Then, slide the connector on, making sure the center conductor extends just a little bit beyond the end of the connector -- no more than ~1/8". If it's flush, that's fine -- you just don't want it down inside the connector.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yes that is the what I am doing when I am prepping the coax. The problem I am having is I cannot get the dielectric up to the edge of that inside part. I did purchase the 2nd ones I linked last night and I wasn't having any success either. In all the videos I have watched it seems very simple to just push the coax into the connector until the dielectric butts up to the edge. That isn't working for me. In the connectors I purchase the inside housing that holds the dielectric looks much much longer then the 1/4" of inch that is cut on the dielectric.
post #4 of 15
Are these connection going to be sitting outside? If not I'd just suggest using the cheapo crimp f-connections. They are so much easier to work with.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
No they are going to be inside, in the attic. I don't think this tool works with the crimp ones, just compression.
post #6 of 15
Yeah you can get the tool and 50 connectors for about $8 and they are basically hassle free.
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
Maybe ill do that. Just want to get this step over with so I can finish wiring
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Chad711 View Post

Maybe ill do that. Just want to get this step over with so I can finish wiring

Yeah I picked up some of those compression connectors and a couple other expensive connectors and tried them and on some connections I was getting a weak signal. Couldn't figure out why. Switched to the basic crimp connector and everything worked perfect with full signal.
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post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thought i would update this topic since I started it and maybe this will help others that run into the same issue. I found the correct connectors. I needed quad connectors. the quad shielding also has a larger diameter outer shielding, at least mine did and that is why the connectors would not work. They were not large enough to fit comfortably around my cable. I bought these at Fry's and they worked perfectly on my first try!

http://www.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&query_string=7057221&submit.x=7&submit.y=17&cat=0
post #11 of 15
Thanks for the update
post #12 of 15
Some of the tricks that you can do to get the connectors flush with the dielectric is to snip off the braiding that you folded over. You'll have less to contend with when you push the connector on. The braiding bunches up when trying to terminate quad.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by scir16v View Post

Some of the tricks that you can do to get the connectors flush with the dielectric is to snip off the braiding that you folded over. You'll have less to contend with when you push the connector on. The braiding bunches up when trying to terminate quad.
If you're going to trim some of the shielding off, why use Quad in the first place?
post #14 of 15
Sometimes if its tough to get it down far enough I will wiggle it in a twisting motion and that helps too
post #15 of 15
My Paladin Tools compression tool kit came with a fitting and flaring tool, very similar to this:



2 of the 3 ends are used for clearing of the shield from the white foam dialectric - sized just right. The third F-connector end (lower left in that pic) can be used to help advance the connector onto the cable; something to hold onto, for leverage.
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