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post #31 of 1930
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Originally Posted by TWD View Post

MHT gave me an initial price of $3700. I told them I would pay $3400. They came back with a final of $3500. The problem is that it is still $750 more then the VT. I viewed both in bright conditions and I'm not sure that the ZT is $750 better then the VT for the small improvement in daytime viewing. From all accounts they look identical at night.
60 or 65"?
post #32 of 1930
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Originally Posted by mooney74 View Post

Which ABC Warehouse? Southfield, MI is the closest to me. If that price holds true, you got a great deal. I will try and duplicate that deal.

Ann Arbor. I didn't even have to haggle which does make me wonder, but I have the invoice right here saying TCP60ZT60 for $2807.94 after tax.
post #33 of 1930
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Originally Posted by hamburglin View Post

Ann Arbor. I didn't even have to haggle which does make me wonder, but I have the invoice right here saying TCP60ZT60 for $2807.94 after tax.

Do you mind letting me know if that price holds up. When do you expect to take delivery? June 1st has come and gone.
post #34 of 1930
On the Best Buy website, the price for a ZT60 60" is listed as $3500. Has anyone been able to actually get this plasma TV at a lower price than that, either at BB or through mail order? I ask the question because while several people have posted lower prices than BB for mail order places, it is not clear if anyone has actually physically gotten a TV from someone other than BB. I'm thinking about getting the 60" and I'd very much like to know if I can get BB to price match an online store. Thanks.

Cal68
post #35 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Cal68 View Post

On the Best Buy website, the price for a ZT60 60" is listed as $3500. Has anyone been able to actually get this plasma TV at a lower price than that, either at BB or through mail order? I ask the question because while several people have posted lower prices than BB for mail order places, it is not clear if anyone has actually physically gotten a TV from someone other than BB. I'm thinking about getting the 60" and I'd very much like to know if I can get BB to price match an online store. Thanks.

Cal68

I tried to get BB to price match this deal from Cleveland https://clevelandplasma.com/store/2013_pre_order but none of my 7 local BB’s would touch it.

FYI, Cleveland is a AVS sponsor, is rated 10 out of 10 on Reseller Ratings and has a perfect Better Business report. In other words, they are one of the few online dealers that I would trust.

From what I understand he does have the ZT60 in stock but you could verify that by email. Also, that price includes shipping, full insurance and a semi white glove delivery program.
Edited by Dogger1 - 6/3/13 at 4:53am
post #36 of 1930
I doubt that Cleveland Plasma has the ZT in stock. It is still listed as a preorder. BB has a 2 month exclusive on the ZT.
post #37 of 1930
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Originally Posted by mooney74 View Post

Do you mind letting me know if that price holds up. When do you expect to take delivery? June 1st has come and gone.

Sure. The price is set in stone because of the deposit I put down as it was explained to me. The only bad thing I can see happening is that I won't get it for a month due to best buy. The salesman is calling me today or tomorrow to let me know what he finds out about the sell date, and when they are coming in exactly if not already.
post #38 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Dogger1 View Post


FYI, Cleveland is a AVS sponsor, is rated 10 out of 10 on Reseller Ratings and has a perfect Better Business report. In other words, they are one of the few online dealers that I would trust.

CP is a brick & mortar but sells online too. I think Paul's also does both. These are legit, authorized dealers. I "settled" on the 60" VT60 since I can't justify spending but maybe $300 more for the ZT60 (street price). The 60" VT60 is not hard to find at under $2,500, which is a grand more than an easy price on the ST60. Yikes. So spending even $300 more than that just piles on the pain. So that put me in a situation where there was no way I could spend no more than $2,800 for the ZT, which is a $700 discount from MSRP. I didn't want to wait to see if that deal would ever come around.

Does anyone have a ZT60 up and running in their home right now having paid appreciably less than MSRP?
post #39 of 1930
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Originally Posted by mooney74 View Post

Do you mind letting me know if that price holds up. When do you expect to take delivery? June 1st has come and gone.

My salesman is waiting to ask his buyer about the BB magnolia stuff for the month. His buyer is actually out to some kind of panasonic conference/meeting. So it looks like the $2650 price is staying but who knows about the date at this point.
post #40 of 1930
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Originally Posted by hamburglin View Post

My salesman is waiting to ask his buyer about the BB magnolia stuff for the month. His buyer is actually out to some kind of panasonic conference/meeting. So it looks like the $2650 price is staying but who knows about the date at this point.

If it holds true, you stole that TV. On the ABC Warehouse website they have ZT60 priced at $3499.
post #41 of 1930
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Originally Posted by mooney74 View Post

If it holds true, you stole that TV. On the ABC Warehouse website they have ZT60 priced at $3499.

ABC Warehouse is insane about offering deals. I once bought an unplanned TV from them, because the salesguy just kept shouting lower numbers as I walked out of the store, until I stopped walking.
post #42 of 1930
I just got back from spending 4 hours in BB Magnolia with my full 32GB thumb stick full of test images and everything you could shake a stick at comparing the ZT/VT/F8500. At the end of the day I must have been in BB on the right night because they were wheeling and dealing.

They quoted the following:

ZT 65 for $3300 out the door
VT 65 for $2750 out the door
F8500 for $2800 out the door

I chose the VT because at the end of the day you could BARELY see a difference between the two panels unless they turned back on their lighting, then the ZT took a slight edge due to glare. Bottom line is the ZT was not worth $550 more and I plan on using that money to get the VT professionally calibrated.

The deals are out there, you just need to pit stores against each other. I got hard on the manager and asked him if BB is going to stay in the game and start selling off volume versus profit. I'm still buying TV's from you and I'll send everyone I know in the Chicagoland area to this BB to buy them smile.gif It worked. I happen to know the cost of all three panels and I"ll tell you what, don't feel bad for them when they tell you "We're aren't making any money.". Each panel is marked up over $1000.

EDIT OOPs mean to put this in the VT thread, but I guess it will benefit someone to know that the ZT can be had for cheaper, you wouldn't believe the markup.
Edited by MaynardLD50 - 6/6/13 at 7:57pm
post #43 of 1930
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Originally Posted by MaynardLD50 View Post


They quoted the following:


F8500 for $2800 out the door
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For 64" model? I can't get anyone reputable to drop it down that far in all of my calls. Was it a floor model?
Edited by SiGGy - 6/7/13 at 12:12pm
post #44 of 1930
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

For 64" model? I can't get anyone reputable to drop it down that far in all of my calls. Was it a floor model?
Brand new in the box delivered for free smile.gif Per usual getting deals is YMMV (your miles may vary).
post #45 of 1930
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Originally Posted by MaynardLD50 View Post

Brand new in the box delivered for free smile.gif Per usual getting deals is YMMV (your miles may vary).

Hard to believe with Samsung's UPP you could get a 64" F8500 for $2800 out the door. That would mean it's actual retail price would be around $2600 before tax. I hope I can get that deal at some point... I can't find it now, not even close.
post #46 of 1930
Maynard,

I plan to work on my local BB's to see if I can get your $3300 price for the ZT65. I'm skeptical, as I have never had much luck negotiating with BB, and since there are currently no online sellers to price match against, I am anticipating an uphill battle.

Any further negotiating suggestions would be appreciated.
post #47 of 1930
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

CP is a brick & mortar but sells online too. I think Paul's also does both. These are legit, authorized dealers. I "settled" on the 60" VT60 since I can't justify spending but maybe $300 more for the ZT60 (street price). The 60" VT60 is not hard to find at under $2,500, which is a grand more than an easy price on the ST60. Yikes. So spending even $300 more than that just piles on the pain. So that put me in a situation where there was no way I could spend no more than $2,800 for the ZT, which is a $700 discount from MSRP. I didn't want to wait to see if that deal would ever come around.

Does anyone have a ZT60 up and running in their home right now having paid appreciably less than MSRP?

While I'm not calling into question CP's quality of service, or legitimacy, they are not an "Authorized Dealer". At least not according to Panasonic. I'm curious as to why, but the facts are the facts.
post #48 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

While I'm not calling into question CP's quality of service, or legitimacy, they are not an "Authorized Dealer". At least not according to Panasonic. I'm curious as to why, but the facts are the facts.

CP is authorized. Panny can't list every "Mom and Pop".
post #49 of 1930
When you say out the door, do you mean that's the final price including tax, or without it? Thanks.
post #50 of 1930
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

CP is authorized. Panny can't list every "Mom and Pop".

They list plenty "mom & pop" dealers on their site. I have also been told directly by Panasonic that they are not. Again, I'm not putting down CP. I know they are a reputable shop. Just correcting your assumption that they were authorized.
post #51 of 1930
does anyone know how much longer the MGH exclusive on the ZT has left to go? Until it ends, I can't see there being many great deals on the ZT until 'normal' sellers are allowed to sell it? (i'm trying to decide between a VT and a ZT, but with the VT discounts on offer it means it's 1.2k cheaper right now!)
post #52 of 1930
What are the real advantages to buying through an authorized dealer?
post #53 of 1930
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Originally Posted by papa_laz View Post

does anyone know how much longer the MGH exclusive on the ZT has left to go? Until it ends, I can't see there being many great deals on the ZT until 'normal' sellers are allowed to sell it? (i'm trying to decide between a VT and a ZT, but with the VT discounts on offer it means it's 1.2k cheaper right now!)

Speakerfile will correct me if this is wrong, but I was told the next roll-out to a few select dealers will be the week of July 22nd, 5 weeks from now.

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Originally Posted by hdqboss View Post

What are the real advantages to buying through an authorized dealer?

Not sure if all of this is true, but here's what Panasonic says about buying through authorized dealers and here's the official list of authorized retailers.

Benefits of Buying from Panasonic Authorized Retailers

Authorized Panasonic Retailers - Home Entertainment Products
Authorized Panasonic Retailers - Cameras and Camcorders

Panasonic wants to ensure that your experience with our products is outstanding, before, during and after the sale. Whether you purchase from a retail store or online, we want you to have an experience that leaves you completely satisfied; that is the promise of the Panasonic brand. In order to ensure this, we work exclusively with a select group of retailers who have earned the privilege of being an Authorized Panasonic Retailer.

Why buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer?

Retailers that are authorized by Panasonic have proven to us that they are committed to delivering a consistently outstanding customer experience, helping you choose the Panasonic product that's right for you. Many can also assist you with delivery and service after you make your Panasonic purchase.

Panasonic includes limited product warranties on its products, but only when the products are purchased from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer. Purchasing Panasonic products from non-authorized retailers can be problematic for you. You may be purchasing product that are counterfeit, used, defective or not designed to properly operate in the United States. We urge our customers to protect themselves by purchasing Panasonic products only from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic via our website.

The Authorized Panasonic Retailer Difference

When you purchase Panasonic products from Authorized Panasonic Retailers, you can be assured that you are not purchasing products that may have been altered or which don't contain modified serial numbers; purchasing these types of products could void the limited warranty that accompanies Panasonic's products.

In addition, we have been advised that on occasion, non-authorized retailers are offering used Panasonic products as new. As we have no relationship with these companies, if you experience any difficulty with their service, we may be unable to assist you.

Buying Panasonic products from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic, will assure that you have the best customer experience possible before, during and after the sale.

When you buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, you can be assured that…

...the Retailer is properly trained, so that they can provide the correct answers to your questions
...In many cases, the Retailer can provide assistance to you with the proper setup of your Panasonic purchase
...Authorized Retailers stay informed regarding new technologies, so they can provide information on the latest Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers have demonstrated a commitment to outstanding customer service and support
...Authorized Retailers can directly contact Panasonic employees, including product managers and customer service team members
...Authorized Retailers receive ongoing product and sales training, ensuring that your purchasing experience is consistently outstanding
...Authorized Retailers have the latest information regarding Panasonic promotions and special offers
...Authorized Retailers will also have access to official accessories for your Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers only sell factory-fresh Panasonic products with original, unaltered serial numbers
...the full benefits of Panasonic’s limited product warranties will be in effect
post #54 of 1930
Like I originally asked - what are the "real" advantages?
post #55 of 1930
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Originally Posted by hdqboss View Post

What are the real advantages to buying through an authorized dealer?

Here is Panasonic's answer.

http://www.panasonic.com/about/authorized-retailers.asp

I don't know that I would recommend not shopping somewhere purely because they were not authorized. IMO, it is just one facet of the decision. In combination with other factors though, such as limited tender choices, poor return policy and lack of positive reviews(or any reviews, for that matter) I think it becomes an issue.

In the case of CP, they clearly have a track record of great customer service and are the definition of a reputable dealer. Really somewhat surprised they're not authorized, to be honest.
post #56 of 1930
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Originally Posted by schnura View Post

Speakerfile will correct me if this is wrong, but I was told the next roll-out to a few select dealers will be the week of July 22nd, 5 weeks from now.
Not sure if all of this is true, but here's what Panasonic says about buying through authorized dealers and here's the official list of authorized retailers.

Benefits of Buying from Panasonic Authorized Retailers

Authorized Panasonic Retailers - Home Entertainment Products
Authorized Panasonic Retailers - Cameras and Camcorders

Panasonic wants to ensure that your experience with our products is outstanding, before, during and after the sale. Whether you purchase from a retail store or online, we want you to have an experience that leaves you completely satisfied; that is the promise of the Panasonic brand. In order to ensure this, we work exclusively with a select group of retailers who have earned the privilege of being an Authorized Panasonic Retailer.

Why buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer?

Retailers that are authorized by Panasonic have proven to us that they are committed to delivering a consistently outstanding customer experience, helping you choose the Panasonic product that's right for you. Many can also assist you with delivery and service after you make your Panasonic purchase.

Panasonic includes limited product warranties on its products, but only when the products are purchased from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer. Purchasing Panasonic products from non-authorized retailers can be problematic for you. You may be purchasing product that are counterfeit, used, defective or not designed to properly operate in the United States. We urge our customers to protect themselves by purchasing Panasonic products only from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic via our website.

The Authorized Panasonic Retailer Difference

When you purchase Panasonic products from Authorized Panasonic Retailers, you can be assured that you are not purchasing products that may have been altered or which don't contain modified serial numbers; purchasing these types of products could void the limited warranty that accompanies Panasonic's products.

In addition, we have been advised that on occasion, non-authorized retailers are offering used Panasonic products as new. As we have no relationship with these companies, if you experience any difficulty with their service, we may be unable to assist you.

Buying Panasonic products from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, or directly from Panasonic, will assure that you have the best customer experience possible before, during and after the sale.

When you buy from an Authorized Panasonic Retailer, you can be assured that…

...the Retailer is properly trained, so that they can provide the correct answers to your questions
...In many cases, the Retailer can provide assistance to you with the proper setup of your Panasonic purchase
...Authorized Retailers stay informed regarding new technologies, so they can provide information on the latest Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers have demonstrated a commitment to outstanding customer service and support
...Authorized Retailers can directly contact Panasonic employees, including product managers and customer service team members
...Authorized Retailers receive ongoing product and sales training, ensuring that your purchasing experience is consistently outstanding
...Authorized Retailers have the latest information regarding Panasonic promotions and special offers
...Authorized Retailers will also have access to official accessories for your Panasonic products
...Authorized Retailers only sell factory-fresh Panasonic products with original, unaltered serial numbers
...the full benefits of Panasonic’s limited product warranties will be in effect

Beat me to it with the Panasonic response:)

Regarding the date, other dealer's will not be able to sell ZT's until August, as it stands right now.
post #57 of 1930
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Originally Posted by hdqboss View Post

Like I originally asked - what are the "real" advantages?

Based on which retailer you buy from (or if your retailer buys from another unauthorized retailer) some if not most of what Panasonic says can come into play. The bigger issue is where and how does the unauthorized retailer get his inventory?
post #58 of 1930
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Originally Posted by MaynardLD50 View Post

I just got back from spending 4 hours in BB Magnolia with my full 32GB thumb stick full of test images and everything you could shake a stick at comparing the ZT/VT/F8500. At the end of the day I must have been in BB on the right night because they were wheeling and dealing.

They quoted the following:

ZT 65 for $3300 out the door
VT 65 for $2750 out the door
F8500 for $2800 out the door

I chose the VT because at the end of the day you could BARELY see a difference between the two panels unless they turned back on their lighting, then the ZT took a slight edge due to glare. Bottom line is the ZT was not worth $550 more and I plan on using that money to get the VT professionally calibrated.

The deals are out there, you just need to pit stores against each other. I got hard on the manager and asked him if BB is going to stay in the game and start selling off volume versus profit. I'm still buying TV's from you and I'll send everyone I know in the Chicagoland area to this BB to buy them smile.gif It worked. I happen to know the cost of all three panels and I"ll tell you what, don't feel bad for them when they tell you "We're aren't making any money.". Each panel is marked up over $1000.

EDIT OOPs mean to put this in the VT thread, but I guess it will benefit someone to know that the ZT can be had for cheaper, you wouldn't believe the markup.

I'm sorry but I don't find that price for a ZT in the least bit believable.
post #59 of 1930
I had to visit 5 BB locations and a few local shops to reach close to $3500 on the ZT, so you have a super deal up there for $3300.
post #60 of 1930
$3100 here (+ tax), now you know why I went 750 miles (round trip) to grab it (Best Buy). Don't PM me asking who because they apparently had to put the clamp down on the discounting and have asked for no more referrals. Mine was the last one in the region (as of June 5, 2013), and I consider myself very blessed to have been connected to the manager who was serious about meeting (or exceeding) a quota apparently. It's the main reason why I'm not too sussed by the fan noise. Should I have chosen to have it delivered, the cost would have risen by at least $400.
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