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post #301 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Influence View Post

Best idea is to go in person to your local BB/Magnolia and ask to speak with either the Magnolia manager or the store manager. Ask if they will honor the $3199 price Magnolia offered on the 65" ZT60 a few months back. it is highly doubtful that Magnolias cost of the set has increased since the summer when this deal was offered, so they should be able to match this deal now. See if they will give you the deal or at least get close to it. Also, since they have such a high markup on their warranty, you could see if they will do something like $3499 plus tax for the TV with extended warranty plan. That makes the overall deal more attractive to BB.

Thanks for the input. I'm going to drop by BB after work today to see if I can get a deal worked out based on your input. In which month did BB offer $3199 for the 65" ZT60? Are you suggesting $3499 plus tax for the 2 year or 5 year extended warranty? I hope they move on the price. I've only bought from this particular store. I bought my last TV from this BB store 6 years ago. That and other big ticket appliances as well. I would go for the F8500 but the input lag scares me away as I game on occasion. Thanks again!
post #302 of 1930
I want to say it was July that the $3199 promo was run (in-store only). Others may remember the exact dates but if you search through this thread you will find the postings on the deal. I would say go for $3499 with the 5 year total warranty. I personally added the $99 Costco 3-year extension to my ZT (so 4 years total warranty coverage). The SquareTrade warranty offered by Costco does not cover burn-in though, which I believe the BB warranty does. Not really a big deal (especially if you calibrate the set and be mindful of logos/black bars during the first few hundred hours) but only you can assess how much piece-of-mind the warranty is worth.

If you have multiple BBs in your area you may need to try 2 or 3 to get them to take this offer, but if you are polite and are wiling to plunk down your credit card immediately if they say yes you should have a good shot at making this work.

Don't forget to mention your prior purchases with the store manager if they start balking at your deal, especially since they can easily look up your purchasing history.

Good luck
post #303 of 1930
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Originally Posted by roncruiser View Post

I'd like to purchase the 65" ZT60 from BB. Seems like prices are locked across the board for the online retailers they will price match against. Looking for ways to motivate them to drop the price. I'm not good with haggling, but I'm willing to give it a try. I've wondered if they will drop the price of the 65" ZT60 to that of the Samsung 64" F8500 if I go in and just ask. Though, I want more ammo than just asking for the price drop. Any advice will be helpful. More ammo in my belt!

Thanks,
Ron
Some ammo I can add is that a BB manager told me that $3,000 is their cost for the 65" ZT60. They botched my order for a 65" VT60, so he offered me the ZT60 at that price.

You could have them try to price match Abe's of Maine. I originally got them to price match their VT60 price. I pointed out to them that even though they weren't on their approved matching list, that they were vendors as part of the BB marketplace, so I hoped that they would find them to be a legitimate business with a decent internet presence. Abe's has the ZT60 currently listed at $3,339. I dealt with the guy in the Magnolia store. I had stopped in to view the TV, and then arranged for the price match via email and phone calls.

It seems that they are generally pretty open to price matching in my experience.
post #304 of 1930
Made it into BB after work today. Talked to the manager and asked of they could do something with the price. The in store price for the 65" ZT60 was listed as $3799. I asked if there was a way to lower the price. The manager went directly to the terminal and looked up Amazon and other authorized price matching vendors. Amazon had it listed for $3549, a listed price I did not see myself on Amazon earlier in the day. That was still too high for me personally. I asked if they could bring it down any more and they brought it down to $3299. I was happy with that price but I was not happy with the extended warranty prices. Wow! 2 year = $399. 5 year = $799. 2 year was not enough coverage and the 5 year was too pricey. They would not move on the warranty price at all. Warranty repairs are done 3rd party thus prices are fixed, or so I was told. In the end I passed on it tonight and walked away.

Addendum: I was just about to pull the trigger on the $3299 plus $799 warranty, but balked. I then asked if they could reduce the price another $100, and they did down to $3199! Still at that price, the $799 for the 5 year was hard to over come. That's when I passed. All that and I still had to pay taxes on top of it all.

(Edit to correct pricing (due to bad memory):10/11/13)
Edited by roncruiser - 10/11/13 at 8:59am
post #305 of 1930
Their warranty coverage is unmatched (covering burn-in and dead pixels). Honestly, I wish I would've grabbed the 5-year...might've been my free pass to OLED in the future.
post #306 of 1930
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Their warranty coverage is unmatched (covering burn-in and dead pixels). Honestly, I wish I would've grabbed the 5-year...might've been my free pass to OLED in the future.

Hi Vinnie, can you detail your thoughts more on the "free pass part" of your statement. Say in year 4.5 of the 5 year warranty the TV goes out and is not fixable for some reason, will the replacement TV be equivalent in value to the one it's replacing, or is there some law of diminishing returns worked into the extended warranty? In other words, the older the warranty gets, the lesser the value of the replacement TV.

Anyhow, so, it's the next morning and a fresh outlook on purchasing a new TV. I may go back in today and accept last nights offer. The TV price was very good. I have all day at work to torture myself about it before making another move tonight. Oh boy. confused.gif
post #307 of 1930
I believe Best Buy replaces with a like (size, brand, tech if available) model as the one that that is defective (by the time the ZT fails or undergoes a defect, plasma may be well and truly done), but don't quote me on that. This is what I've seen reported here by consumers in the recent past in any case. If one chooses cash back, that is more likely to apply to a mathematical formula that determines depreciation.
post #308 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I believe Best Buy replaces with a like (size, brand, tech if available) model as the one that that is defective (by the time the ZT fails or undergoes a defect, plasma may be well and truly done), but don't quote me on that. This is what I've seen reported here by consumers in the recent past in any case. If one chooses cash back, that is more likely to apply to a mathematical formula that determines depreciation.

In my experience, I got the full amount back from the purchase. The problem I had with that is I had purchased a specially priced bundle of a Sony LCD and a PS3. Since it was a bundle purchase, they deducted the full price of the PS3 from the equation, instead of just the non-discounted portion. So I lost out on a few hundred dollars due to that.

A question on the BB Warranty though, how strongly do you guys advise for getting a warranty on these newer plasmas? This is the first one I will own, though my brother has had a Panny 65" for a couple of years without any issues. I was hoping I wouldn't need one. But I still have time to go back and get one since it won't be delivered until tomorrow. Please advise.
Edited by Millikin54 - 10/10/13 at 10:11am
post #309 of 1930
It is not really based on price, with the exception that it is not to exceed the price originally paid for the TV being replaced. The warranty states that they will replace with a model of like kind and quality. Typically, if you buy the top series of Panasonic plasma you would get the same in return. Unfortunately, 3-4 years from now, they likely won't have a plasma line. This doesn't mean they will automatically replace it with an OLED. That MAY happen, but it is at the discretion of the store manager. You definitely won't get an OLED if they are still more expensive than what you end up paying for the TV today.

What Vinnie said about their coverage being unmatched though is definitely true. All I can say is read the fine print on the ST plan and comare it to the Best Buy plan. Pay special attention to Burn-in, Dead pixels, No lemon, and replacement value. Clearly, they are more expensive plans, but they offer a lot more in terms of coverage.
post #310 of 1930
^Makes sense. In the scenario you described, can the original price paid be put towards the cost of the OLED?

Second question: Is there anyway to purchase one of these plans post television purchase?
post #311 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Makes sense. In the scenario you described, can the original price paid be put towards the cost of the OLED?

Second question: Is there anyway to purchase one of these plans post television purchase?

Regarding the OLED upgrade, it would be up to the store manager, but I don't see why they would have a problem with that. You can purchase a plan after the TV was purchased, but I'm not sure how much time you have to do it. I'll have to see if I can dig up that info. You do have to purchase the TV at Best Buy though.
post #312 of 1930
^Thanks...it seems to be only a week from purchase from what I've read (IIRC). An exception would be nice for those procrastinators, for instance, who decide they want to purchase that warranty a few months later. smile.gif
post #313 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Thanks...it seems to be only a week from purchase from what I've read (IIRC). An exception would be nice for those procrastinators, for instance, who decide they want to purchase that warranty a few months later. smile.gif

I believe you can buy a warranty within the same time frame that you can return the TV. So if you're a regular customer (ie. non-silver/elite) then it would be like 15-30 days. If you are silver/elite, then it would be like 45-60 days (whatever the current policy is).

Again though, how strongly do you guys feel that warranties are needed for these TVs?
post #314 of 1930
Yea, too late for me in that case (while the manuf. warranty is still active would be the only way I could take advantage).

Concerning your question, I just don't know...a plasma repairman forum member recently claimed that Panasonic had switched to some lower quality capacitors on its 2013 line, but didn't give much in the way of substantiation.
post #315 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^Thanks...it seems to be only a week from purchase from what I've read (IIRC). An exception would be nice for those procrastinators, for instance, who decide they want to purchase that warranty a few months later. smile.gif

**UPDATE**

The below is from the Geek Squad web site under their FAQ section.

http://www.geeksquad.com/protection-plans/geek-squad-protection/home-theater.aspx#_tab2

How do I purchase Geek Squad Protection after I've purchased my product?
Geek Squad Protection plans may be purchased if it is within the product specific return policy period (located on the back of your receipt). Simply bring your receipt to the customer service desk of a Best Buy retail store and state that you would like to purchase the Geek Squad Protection plan.
post #316 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Concerning your question, I just don't know...a plasma repairman forum member recently claimed that Panasonic had switched to some lower quality capacitors on its 2013 line, but didn't give much in the way of substantiation.
Thank you for the information. I guess I'll have to do some research this weekend.
post #317 of 1930
In regards to service plans my policy has always been as such, "Could I easily afford to replace the item if it were to outright fail in the time period the service plan is in effect?" And the follow up, "Could I buy a replacement for the price if the service plan?"

In the case of a $200 set of headphones, the service plan might be $35 but if it broke within 2 years I could buy a new set and not feel bad about it.

Now if my $3500 plasma took a dive in the next 4 years the $500 guarantee is well worth it. Beyond the typical lemon policy (3 repairs = replacement) Best Buy no also offers a timely repair policy. If they can't fix within 2 weeks - parts unavailable, etc, they replace it.

In this case for me it was a no brainier. Your mileage may vary.

Cheers
Steven
post #318 of 1930
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Originally Posted by roncruiser View Post

Made it into BB after work today. Talked to the manager and asked of they could do something with the price. The in store price for the 65" ZT60 was listed as $3799. I asked if there was a way to lower the price. The manager went directly to the terminal and looked up Amazon and other authorized price matching vendors. Amazon had it listed for $3549, a listed price I did not see myself on Amazon earlier in the day. That was still too high for me personally. I asked if they could bring it down any more and they brought it down to $3299. I was happy with that price but I was not happy with the extended warranty prices. Wow! 2 year = $399. 5 year = $799. 2 year was not enough coverage and the 5 year was too pricey. They would not move on the warranty price at all. Warranty repairs are done 3rd party thus prices are fixed, or so I was told. In the end I passed on it tonight and walked away.

Addendum: I was just about to pull the trigger on the $3299 plus $799 warranty, but balked. I then asked if they could reduce the price another $100, and they did down to $3199! Still at that price, the $799 for the 5 year was hard to over come. That's when I passed. All that and I still had to pay taxes on top of it all.

(Edit to correct pricing (due to bad memory):10/11/13)

Went back into BB last night. The manager that took care of me the previous evening was not in the store. I talked to one of the floor people instead. I told them I would like to make a purchase based on the price agreed upon the previous night.
I told them it was $3199 for the 65" ZT60. They said they needed to call the manager I dealt with to confirm the price. They called the manager while I was standing there, and they told me $3199 was good only if I took the 5 year, $799, warranty. I told
them that was why I walked away the previous night. They would not let me have it at $3199 without the 5 year warranty purchase. I asked for $3299 and would purchase the 2 year warranty at $400. They agreed. I agreed. Done. I am not exactly happy with
the price but I am happy I have a 65" ZT60 being delivered on Monday, 10/14.
post #319 of 1930
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Originally Posted by roncruiser View Post

Made it into BB after work today. Talked to the manager and asked of they could do something with the price. The in store price for the 65" ZT60 was listed as $3799. I asked if there was a way to lower the price. The manager went directly to the terminal and looked up Amazon and other authorized price matching vendors. Amazon had it listed for $3549, a listed price I did not see myself on Amazon earlier in the day. That was still too high for me personally. I asked if they could bring it down any more and they brought it down to $3299. I was happy with that price but I was not happy with the extended warranty prices. Wow! 2 year = $399. 5 year = $799. 2 year was not enough coverage and the 5 year was too pricey. They would not move on the warranty price at all. Warranty repairs are done 3rd party thus prices are fixed, or so I was told. In the end I passed on it tonight and walked away.

Addendum: I was just about to pull the trigger on the $3299 plus $799 warranty, but balked. I then asked if they could reduce the price another $100, and they did down to $3199! Still at that price, the $799 for the 5 year was hard to over come. That's when I passed. All that and I still had to pay taxes on top of it all.

(Edit to correct pricing (due to bad memory):10/11/13)

Why don't you just take the $3199 and get the $100 SquareTrade Warranty from Costco? Odds are that the TV will show any problems within the first few months of use. If you use break-in slides you will usually spot any problems within the first week or so (well within your return window) so you will hopefully never need the warranty. Yes, the Geek squad warranty may technically be a bit better, but $800 is ridiculous. 25% of the purchase price for an extended warranty? Yikes.

Sounds like they are trying to jack up the warranty profit to offset the lower selling price of the TV.
Edited by Influence - 10/11/13 at 9:51am
post #320 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Influence View Post

Why don't you just take the $3199 and get the $100 SquareTrade Warranty from Costco? Odds are that the TV will show any problems within the first few months of use. If you use break-in slides you will usually spot any problems within the first week or so (well within your return window) so you will hopefully never need the warranty. Yes, the Geek squad warranty may technically be a bit better, but $800 is ridiculous. 25% of the purchase price for an extended warranty? Yikes.

Sounds like they are trying to jack up the warranty profit to offset the lower selling price of the TV.

The $3199 price was only good if I bought the 5 year warranty along with it. $3199 was no good alone. Yeah, it was obvious they had a lot of room to move on the TV price, but would not move budge on the extended warranties.
post #321 of 1930
I lucked out in June....$3099 (but I had to travel 700 miles round trip to pick it up).
post #322 of 1930
I'm in the same boat, Ron. I desperately want to get the 65ZT60 before Christmas, but I'm not seeing much leeway in the price. I miss the old days when people posted their receipts. I remember walking into Circuit City with a receipt that was posted many years ago to get my Sony Rear Projection 57HW40. They matched the receipt on the spot. No haggling necessary and a great price.
post #323 of 1930
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Originally Posted by Influence View Post

Why don't you just take the $3199 and get the $100 SquareTrade Warranty from Costco? Odds are that the TV will show any problems within the first few months of use. If you use break-in slides you will usually spot any problems within the first week or so (well within your return window) so you will hopefully never need the warranty. Yes, the Geek squad warranty may technically be a bit better, but $800 is ridiculous. 25% of the purchase price for an extended warranty? Yikes.

Sounds like they are trying to jack up the warranty profit to offset the lower selling price of the TV.

The $3199 price was only good if I bought the 5 year warranty along with it. $3199 was no good alone. Yeah, it was obvious they had a lot of room to move on the TV price, but would not move budge on the extended warranties.

I was shopping around and decided to try Cleveland Plasma out. He's a site sponsor, so I thought I'd at least give him a chance. He was $51 higher than that Magnolia quote, didn't force any plans on me (but offered), and that's to my door - no sales tax.

Just throwing that out there, he doesn't seem to toot his own horn around here, but that's cheaper than the quote I got from Paul's - and they have some pretty harrowing feedback online.

If this post is out of line, mods please delete it. I've been warned about mentioning prices/vendors here before and I'm not sure this sort of post is allowed.
post #324 of 1930
^It definitely is (allowed). This subforum is here for that very reason. smile.gif What's not allowed is him tooting his own horn (he can correct me if wrong wink.gif).
post #325 of 1930
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I'm in the same boat, Ron. I desperately want to get the 65ZT60 before Christmas, but I'm not seeing much leeway in the price. I miss the old days when people posted their receipts. I remember walking into Circuit City with a receipt that was posted many years ago to get my Sony Rear Projection 57HW40. They matched the receipt on the spot. No haggling necessary and a great price.

I forgot to mention this very important tidbit: You could wait until next weekend. The BB manager I was dealing with told me there will be a Magnoilia sale starting on October 20th. Maybe it was November 20th. Likely it is October 20th. I could be wrong about the date. What I am sure of is that there will be a Magnoilia store sale. Anyhow, they mentioned if the price of the TV was any lower during the sale than the price that I received, I would be refunded the difference. She also mentioned that the price of the TV, likely won't go lower than the price I received, which was $3299. Get ready! Get in line. The pre holiday sales are heating up.

Now, I start shopping for the heavy duty wall mount!
Ron
post #326 of 1930
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^It definitely is (allowed). This subforum is here for that very reason. smile.gif What's not allowed is him tooting his own horn (he can correct me if wrong wink.gif).


Thanks, I hope nobody thinks I'm shilling for the guy, I'd never talked to him before in my life until last Friday night. I even told him straight up that the last 2 Panasonic plasmas I bought were from Vann's, who seem to have dropped off the map since I was last in the market.

Anyway, I haven't been on the site in a while. I don't even remember now why I started looking at plasmas this time, I didn't really need a new one. But the ZT60 seems to be the bomb, so what the heck. And no sooner than I ordered one, Panasonic decides to quit the game. Glad I didn't wait 6 more months to see what the plasma scene was doing.
post #327 of 1930
Anyone know if you can negotiate 3 year financing at BB up from 2 on the zt65?
post #328 of 1930
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Originally Posted by carrwash13 View Post

Anyone know if you can negotiate 3 year financing at BB up from 2 on the zt65?

Unlikely. It is VERY expensive.
post #329 of 1930
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Originally Posted by carrwash13 View Post

Anyone know if you can negotiate 3 year financing at BB up from 2 on the zt65?
Yes, no need for negotiating though. Just ask them. If I chose that route, 3 year financing would have been fixed at 11 point something percent.
post #330 of 1930
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Originally Posted by roncruiser View Post

The $3199 price was only good if I bought the 5 year warranty along with it. $3199 was no good alone. Yeah, it was obvious they had a lot of room to move on the TV price, but would not move budge on the extended warranties.

You do realize that the BB Geek Squad warranty and your tv are two separate entities.

Look on your receipt, the warranty should show up as $799 and the tv as $3199.

Warranty I believe has a 30-day return period for full purchase price. I would double check with your BB to make sure first.

If you're not comfortable with the price of the warranty, simply return it within the full refund period and purchase an extended warranty from another vendor that you trust and is more affordable to you.

Check the terms and conditions for any prospective extended warranty, they're not all equal.

Ultimately, you're getting the tv for the price you negotiated, and the extended warranty is up to you.

Good luck!
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