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Recommendations for stores that ship GOM FR701 fabric & samples to Canada?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Does anyone have recommendations for stores that ship GOM (Guilford of Maine) acoustically transparent fabric to Canada? I'm in Ottawa, Ontario specifically and highly doubt I can find it locally.

I'm looking for a metric butt-load of FR701 black (Style 2100-408) for panels around the screen and ~4 feet into the room, plus a bunch of samples to try and match the following Sherwin Williams SW7032 wall colour:

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The room under construction / temporary setup:

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Is there anywhere where you can purchase a complete set of swatch samples? I can always do two separate orderes if needed.

As expected, trying to find a match through websites is somewhat impossible as both the paint colour and the GOM samples online vary depending on which site I visit. Real samples are needed.

While I doubt I'm the first to ask, search isn't coming up with any thing helpful.

Thanks!

Kal
post #2 of 17
It used to be you had to order a swatch book. GIK had one so I ordered it only to find out that they recently changed policies at GOM or something and now you can order samples directly from GOM for whatever you want. Just add them to your cart and check out. It is very simple and ships quick (hopefully to Canada). I ordered well over 50 and I am currently stewing over color schemes.

GIK actually called me and told me this after I ordered the swatch book from them and refunded my money. Good for them.

As for shipping to Canada I am not sure but call GOM and ask if you have not. You might also try TechHT.com. Maybe they will ship to you.

Hey how about close ups of those Star Wars ship pictures you have on that side wall. Where did you find them?
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks jedimastergrant - I'll go directly to GOM and see what they say.
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Hey how about close ups of those Star Wars ship pictures you have on that side wall. Where did you find them?

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In my previous HT I used real movie posters but I find they get old/outdated so in my new build I wanted something different... art that was "inspired" by movies. In searching I discovered a new genre of movie posters that I like called "retro minimalist" (Google "retro minimalist movie posters"). These ones I have feature the movie that probably had the biggest impact on me and made me want to get into this hobby.

They were purchased from Etsy.com. I couldn't find the same ones (which I kinda like as it makes them unique), but there are many other minimalist Star Wars posters:

www.etsy.com/search?q=minimalist%20poster%20star%20wars

If you search their site for 'minimalist poster' without the words 'Star Wars' you'll find many more:

http://www.etsy.com/search?q=minimalist%20poster

Kal
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Someone PM'ed about the idea of using speaker cloth instead. I actually did this in my last HT and it was still fine after ~8 years.

It's not flame retardant however (if someone is concerned with that). It's really dark and becomes somewhat invisible. The accoustical transparency properties would certainly be very good too, given what it's for. Also very stretchy so it's easy to work with and get taut. I'm not entirely sure why but GOM seems more 'professional' so I wanted to go that route this time. Now I'm not sure. wink.gif

Some pictures that show my old panels:

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Regardless of the fabric I use, this time around I'd make some better frames to get nicer/tighter edges - these ones were a bit "sloppy on the outside where nothing is pressed against them.

Kal
post #5 of 17
I am also in Ottawa, and looking to pick up some GOM FR701 in black. Guilford of Maine will ship to Canada. I can't remember exact details, and it's through UPS and I find they ALWAYS screw me. I was thinking about making a trip down to Ogdensburg to pick it up. If I head down before you find some Id be happy to try and get you a couple samples
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the offer DylanL. I've ordered some samples (at least I think I have ... there was no charge) so I'll see what they look like, and if ok I'll inquire further about cost of shipping.

Question for anyone:

Is the FR701 line still the correct GOM stuff to use for accoustic panels? They seem to have many others available now under accoustic panel here:

http://www.guilfordofmaine.com/acoustic/panel

But the specs don't seem quite the same. Some have different NRC ratings, some are directional.
For 2-4" thick panels (and 6-8" bass traps) can reasonably well use any off these styles?

Kal
post #7 of 17
The FR-701 series is named FR-701 because of the NFPA FR701 tests conducted for fabrics. So the FR-701 is just created to excel in those tests. Granted, they are highly acoustically transparent as well, but Guilford also makes other panel fabrics that are similarly acoustically transparent.
We used to carry swatch books but Guilford decided to now send free samples to anyone who enquires and instead sends us 'picture' swatch books, which is basically just a print out of the high-res photos they have on their website (still nice to have, not as nice as the fabric swatchbooks were, though)
Guilford now ships out small samples for free (I believe it's two day shipping as well) from their website if anyone wishes.
post #8 of 17
The Anchorage line of fabrics from GOM is another favorite for acoustical panel covering and has the stamp of approval by many "experts". The fabric has a more refined look and feel. However it is not recommended for speaker covering.
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GIK Acoustics View Post

Granted, they [FR701] are highly acoustically transparent as well, but Guilford also makes other panel fabrics that are similarly acoustically transparent.

Thanks. Any recommendations as to which ones? It's not clear on their site which should (or could) be used for accoustic tiles.

BIGmouthinDC mentioned the Anchorage line which is great as some of the colours seem pretty close to the brown wall colouring I'm trying to match. Are there any others that come recommended by the experts?

Kal
post #10 of 17
Perhaps I'm just blind, but It can't find where on the website you can order sample swatches from.
Any help?
Thanks
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by sgolko View Post

Perhaps I'm just blind, but It can't find where on the website you can order sample swatches from.
Any help?
Thanks

Just click on the picture of the sample you would like to order and a menu pops up on top of the sample. One of them says "add to cart".
post #12 of 17
kal,

I love the minimalist art. I have seen it before but I did not know it was called minimalist so now I know what to search for. Thanks!

Just a few weeks ago I was admiring these Star Trek Retro posters. Not exactly minimalist but they are inspired by the original series episodes like you were talking about with the Star Wars prints. I will warn you before clicking this is ULTRA nerdy stuff! http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f0d2/


Ok, so what was on tap at your old bar? You had quite the set up. Any plans for this go round?
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

Just click on the picture of the sample you would like to order and a menu pops up on top of the sample. One of them says "add to cart".

Yup, definitely blind...Thanks!
Samples are ordered.
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jedimastergrant View Post

Ok, so what was on tap at your old bar?
Whatever I had made at the time. wink.gif I make my own.
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You had quite the set up. Any plans for this go round?

Yup! It's all done now....I doubled the number of taps and put a larger brewery in behind the bar visible through windows, sort of brew-pub style. Still have some odds and ends to figure out...
Some pictures of the work in progress:

Setting up the bar taps:

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Brewing an experimental beer:

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More pictures in my build thread in my signature as well as at my TheElectricBrewery.com website.

Kal
post #15 of 17
Are you kidding me? You look like a mad scientist! I didn't even check your signature before I asked that question so I will have to take a closer look.

We gave my father in law a home brew kit 3 years ago and we started to do it as a family. We don't have a state of the art laboratory but it has been a fun process. I still remember when we cracked open our first batch and we were all just looking at each other to see who was brave enough to take the first sip.................and it was awesome! Still some of the best beer I have ever had. Unfortunately without laboratory conditions such as yours it is difficult to replicate. Just too many variables. And we have never been able to capture the magic of that first batch. But, every batch being unique is kinda fun too.

That is really an amazing set up you have. Your neighbors are some lucky ducks!
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by kal View Post

Thanks. Any recommendations as to which ones? It's not clear on their site which should (or could) be used for accoustic tiles.

BIGmouthinDC mentioned the Anchorage line which is great as some of the colours seem pretty close to the brown wall colouring I'm trying to match. Are there any others that come recommended by the experts?

Kal

I recently had the same question. I called GOM and inquired but I was only able to speak with sales people. I also asked to speak with some of the fabric engineers but they did not seem willing to make it happen.

So I think the only way to really know is to place a good microphone in front of the fabric and see what happens. I can imagine that it would take a mighty fine device for proper detection and I don't own one nor do I have the knowledge for expert interpretation.

I have decided to go with what others have done here and stick with the FR701, Anchorage, and possibly Sensa line to cover my acoustical treatments. Some of the fabrics listed under GOM's Acoustic line are in fact upholstery fabrics and it was obvious just looking at the samples that they would be inappropriate for HT use. I did the blow test on them and I found a drastic difference between those fabrics and the FR701.

I should add that if you are not interested in absorption at the frequencies that the particular fabric does not allow through then you could use the fabric but that is beyond my ability to sort through so I am playing it safe.

I will most likely only use FR701 to cover any speakers. I recently obtained a sample of the Mellotone speaker grill fabric from Parts Express and it is very nice and black. I am not sure it matters unless you are up close to it though.
post #17 of 17
Lol, just received my samples in the mail, less than 24 hours after I ordered them. Well done Guilford of Maine!
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