Originally Posted by stanger89
That and the always-on micrphone doesn't give me a warm fuzzy either (not that I think they'll do anything intentionally nefarious with it).
I just don't expect the One to be worth a crap for media, companies like Microsoft and Apple have shown time and time again they don't understand how people (enthusiasts) use media, or worse they don't care and want to lock people into their ecosystem. It's got a Blu-ray drive, but I expect to player to be average at best.
One thing to remember is that you can completely disable that microphone, it doesn't have to be on.
Also, I agree that these companies have not given us what we want in terms of media up to now. My point about the X1 had less to do with MS themselves providing the solution and more to do with them getting out of the way so that a 3rd party app dev could fill the gaps. If they push an Xbox Store that is modeled after the Windows Store and if porting is as easy as they claimed at BUILD, then who cares what MS themselves offer? Like I said, there are already Windows 8 apps in the works that can fill in the media gaps, especially for local media access.
It seems clear MS wants to get around the cable companies, why else spend so much money building up original content studios and the deal with the NFL. I think MS can improve their media usefulness over this gen, but ultimately its a possible app store that could solve the problems.
Originally Posted by tman247
MS are trying, once again, to be the 'be all and end all' of the home entertainment system. They've tried this before, and failed, so now they're having another go (do they ever learn!). The XB1 is trying to be the jack of all trades, but is likely going to me the master of none. In order to achieve this 'universal' box, MS have litterally had to implement 3 different operating systems, with each one having to compromise in order to achieve all the features MS want.
Wait, how is their OS config compromising to each one? It sounds like they actually compliment each other. You have two OSes, an Xbox OS that is small and light, handling all the gaming tasks, and a Win 8 core that handles all of the media features, multitasking, etc. The third part of this is a Hyper V environment that allows the two OSes to work together seamlessly.
That is an issue I have with arguing against MS pursuing these features. Win 8 is already a jack of all trades OS. Its a PC OS, so that means its more suited to handling pc-like features. Then they keep an Xbox OS in order to maximize performance while gaming since Win 8 is not nearly optimized enough for a single task like that.
The live TV is only really going to work properly in the US, and then most consumers already have their TV requirements sorted. The TV functionality is, at best, a way for MS with spy on what you watch so they can target specific ads at you, or monitor how many people are watching the screen (using Kinect) when the ads are played. It really is big brother this time.
It is coming to the US first, but MS made it clear they are working for international support, meaning support for international TV services and of course, online options. To me, the tv stuff is just a stop gap for MS while they build up more original content and convince more content providers to deal directly with them and not through the cable company. No one has cracked into this market due to the brick wall put up by content providers and the cable/satellite providers. MS and other companies are trying to chip away at that wall though.
I suppose its fully possible MS wants to spy on us with Kinect, but I find it unlikely that they care as much about it since they are allowing us to completely disable Kinect from the dashboard (and still use all of the media services of course), not to mention that most people are probably like me and cover their Kinect when not being used, so even if the disable setting is a lie, they won't be seeing anything. Of course if the setting is a lie, they will be sued and lose big time, something else I doubt they want.
The gaming functionality (compared to the PS4) is weak in a number of areas, so the console has been savaged in that area as well. Just like Windows 8 where MS totally ignored there core desktop customers in the push for 'Modern UI glory', they're doing the same with the Xbox One. Let's do everything for everybody, but nothing particularly well, and our core audience of gamers who just wanted an outstanding games console will now get something that doesn't quite hit the mark in anything (they certainly annoyed a huge number of people before and during E3 with their awful marketing). Let's say nothing about the DRM they wanted to implement (and probably eventually will), forcing people into using the console the way they want you to rather than the way you want to (sound familiar).
MS have had to do so many 180's lately, they must be getting dizzy!
Two big points here.
First, as far as I know the only area where the X1 is weaker in the gaming area is that Sony chose a faster version of the gpu MS chose, which leads to a 40-50% difference in raw gpu power. Other than that, I don't see anything else missing. Again, here we have a claim that MS isn't offering a gaming focus at all with the X1. Their E3 event was entirely game, with zero media discussion and zero Kinect discussion, and yet its glossed over as meaningless. Look, bash MS for lots of things, but they showed a very strong gaming focus at E3. They laid out many great gaming features and made it clear they will not shy away from spending the big bucks to bring quality titles to the console.
The second point is about the DRM change. I am continuously shocked by how much MS gets creamed for changing their policy. MS can't even make a positive change without criticism. So many were pleading with MS to change their minds and MS decided to do just as they asked. No more DRM system and going Region Free. This is bad? This should be denounced and ridiculed? I swear that while Sony gets forgiven for its past issues, MS gets no such chance even when they realize their mistake and correct it BEFORE launch. MS could have tried it the Sony way and refused to react to the outcry/criticism, pushing out the PS3 as they wanted, but they didn't. I'm sorry, but I'd rather a company try to right the wrongs before a product is launched not after.
As a consumer, I'm happy that MS changed the policies and I'm glad they have come out and admitted they screwed up and want to make things right and work with the gaming community more.