Originally Posted by stanger89
Those are basically my two problems with Kinect, 1) I couldn't care less about it, and 2) my Xbox is in a closed cabinet on the opposite end of the house from my screen. Not sure how that's supposed to work.
Except USB isn't known for working well over long distances.
Well Kinect didn't exist when they designed the Xbox 360, so they had to use a port it already had. The One is designed to use the Kinect 2 so there's nothing stopping them from using something more "appropriate".
Well its simple for you. You don't want to use Kinect, so you simply leave it sitting on top or behind your Xbox in the cabinet. On the box dash, you disable Kinect features and your all done. Now its as if it isn't even there.
I agree about the cable issue, I'm not sure how long a cable could be and not lose the Kinect single.
Originally Posted by tman247
There is something overtly sinister about the long-term possibilities MS have with the XB1/Kinect2, and it's deeply concerning to many. Windows 8.1 is going to partly mirror this functionality with it's 'revised' search engine, feeding huge amounts of data back to MS. One wonders if you can truly opt-out as well, and the average user won't even be aware they can. It's also highly likely your Windows account will be the same as your XBL account, or linked, so all the data is pooled. If you feed your TV through th XB1, MS will know about everything you watch and when you watch it. It's likely the movies you watch on the console will be logged and sent back for analysis as well, and apps installs/purchases will be further used to target individuals.
If the Kinect2 can monitor heart rate, stress levels, temperature for example (and it can see in the dark), there's no escaping it. I'm sure MS will one day say how the Kinect2 saved someones life by detecting they were ill or having a heart attack, and then box called emergency services, but the whole concept of this level of intrusion and monitoring is taking everything to the next level.
Once MS start re-introducing all the DRM they 'dropped' in their U-turn to gain public acceptance and save face, the whole package will be complete for them.
I don't know, I'm just not as convinced as you that this is all one big conspiracy to push advertising and control everything you do. Heck, you could apply all your concerns to Google, Apple, Sony, just about all the big tech companies have a similar strategy of owning the living room and most use advertising as some source of revenue, Google being the worst offender.
As far as escaping Kinect, um yes, you can. You make it sound like some hidden camera that you have no control over. This is one claim I think is completely unfounded. I have a Kinect for the 360 and I have a cloth over it when not in use. Guess what....it can't see me through it. Same will be true of the X1 Kinect. As far as tracking heart rates, etc, this is not new. Nintendo is work on such a thing for use with their WiiFit stuff and Sony has been working on a controller that can detect stress levels and perspiration.
Again, this all boils down to if you feel any of these features have legitimate uses beyond the idea of spying on you and controlling your choices.
Originally Posted by JerryW
A physical switch along with an LED directly wired to that switch (not under software control) would be a good start.
I'd also like to see Microsoft publicly eschew the use of xbox as an advertising platform. Today they promise not to share your personal information, but as long as they are working hand in hand with the marketing industry the pressure to lawyer away their original promises will be intense.
But then that begs the question: If you do offer a physical switch with an led, what's stopping MS from circumventing that and still operating Kinect without your knowledge? It seems pretty simple to fake a physical switch and an led light.
Isn't there a fair middle ground though? If you think all advertising is bad then so be it, but I feel like there is a middle ground where its ok to see some advertising. If MS were to just drop all advertising services, that would put them at a serious disadvantage to the other companies in the market.
To me, if you want to stop advertising, start by going after the content providers and the companies that advertise in the first place. Convince them to stop and then companies like MS will see no reason to cater to them.