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post #31 of 59
When did rape become a good thing?
post #32 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Good for you ! I'm jealous of him. My dad knows nothing about computers. He has a HTPC only because I built it and support it constantly.

I'm lucky that my wife and I live right down the street from both our parents and siblings. Everyone is near by. It's nice having a close family unit. Dad is driving now. Wife watching the shows I put on her iPod touch. Mom doing the same. I'm the geek surfing AVS and drawing sketches of my theater. My golden retriever sleeping with her head on my lap. Lol.

My dads great with construction and wood working. I plan to put that to the test with a dedicated 32x26 theater smile.gif

Put a link to your build thread in your signature when you start it. If you want sound silencing help / products, definitely visit http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/ They assigned one of their reps to work with me and we spoke on the phone about my budget and my desires - then worked out a plan on how to get the best bang for the buck. Do it before you start, but after you have your finalized floorplan.
post #33 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Your like a mind reader smile.gif It's going to look built into wall.

Access from the back from a closet door in another room .

But honestly I'm still playing with ideas.

Lol, definitely start a build thread over in the dedicated build section (I'm not stalking but I've seen you there wink.gif) and post up your plans. Napkin or 3x5 sketches are acceptable biggrin.gif, the guys over there will give you the low down and help guide you in not making the same mistakes that we have. If your space is attached to the main house, it will be important to consider where it's attached to and planning noise isolation to keep WAF high.

Looking foward to seeing what you're able to come up with.
post #34 of 59
16 would be impressive. That's a lot of beer. I'd be psyched for 2 taps, one IPA, one lager (a good lager, not BudMillCoors)
post #35 of 59
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

When did rape become a good thing?


2005/2006 online multiplayer gaming ...
post #36 of 59
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

16 would be impressive. That's a lot of beer. I'd be psyched for 2 taps, one IPA, one lager (a good lager, not BudMillCoors)

I'm not a big beer drinker actually. Probably a dual would be max for me - I couldn't create the volume to make sense for any more.

I'd probably just put in a fridge (noise frown.gif ) instead since I prefer a bottle myself.

I've got a frozen margarita machine smile.gif but that's going somewhere else.
post #37 of 59
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Originally Posted by oman321 View Post


Lol, definitely start a build thread over in the dedicated build section (I'm not stalking but I've seen you there wink.gif) and post up your plans. Napkin or 3x5 sketches are acceptable biggrin.gif, the guys over there will give you the low down and help guide you in not making the same mistakes that we have. If your space is attached to the main house, it will be important to consider where it's attached to and planning noise isolation to keep WAF high.

Looking foward to seeing what you're able to come up with.


Working on it. Lots of planning going on. I'm tearing the whole roof off my house and rebuilding ... Still laying out details.

I want a wash machine and drier in my master closet off my bedroom. That's causing a bit if planning issue. I'm not compromising though.

Taking off clothes on second floor only to carry down to the basement to wash and then have to carry back up to bedroom is total bullsh1t. I'm not living that life. Clothes belong in only 1 room in the house. They should never leave it unless its on your body.

I also need know dimensions of garage so I can plan the theater above it in the bonus room.

you'll see a thread and plans soon enough. After my vacation. I'm in FL till June smile.gif

I'm currently trying to steal every great idea I can ... Lol. I wish I could render like Mario. That would make it more exciting than sketching a napkin ... Lol
post #38 of 59
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Good for you ! I'm jealous of him. My dad knows nothing about computers. He has a HTPC only because I built it and support it constantly.

I'm lucky that my wife and I live right down the street from both our parents and siblings. Everyone is near by. It's nice having a close family unit. Dad is driving now. Wife watching the shows I put on her iPod touch. Mom doing the same. I'm the geek surfing AVS and drawing sketches of my theater. My golden retriever sleeping with her head on my lap. Lol.

My dads great with construction and wood working. I plan to put that to the test with a dedicated 32x26 theater smile.gif

Put a link to your build thread in your signature when you start it. If you want sound silencing help / products, definitely visit http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/ They assigned one of their reps to work with me and we spoke on the phone about my budget and my desires - then worked out a plan on how to get the best bang for the buck. Do it before you start, but after you have your finalized floorplan.


Thanks for advice. smile.gif

I'm honestly a lot more interested in maximizing the sound and picture quality than sound proofing the room. I'm planning acoustical treatments, tuning for room corrections, and keeping contrast great with dark colors. The kids rooms will be on other side the house so I don't care if a little sound escapes.

I'm looking at doing the tradition green glue route - and sound proofing to an extent but my set up can tolerate a little sound escaping. I'm cooler with the idea of someone hearing the noise from the theater than tolerating less than ideal sound or picture.
post #39 of 59
I'm a little late to see this thread (since I'm on travel in California) and I too thought all your files were lost. Instead I got to learn that a faster processor processes faster.
post #40 of 59
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"A faster processor processes faster ..."

That has potential for a signature
post #41 of 59
I am a little surprised at the huge delta between your i7 and i5 because the passmark scores for that i7 are only about 20% better than the i5. Clock speed (as opposed to architecture) seems to dominate in this instance.
post #42 of 59
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A 2600k at 4.5ghz should outperform a stock 3.3ghz i5.

The i7 stock clock I believe is 3400mhz, not 4500mhz.

Sandy bridge overclocks better than Ivy bridge. So in This situation my older 2600k can best my newer 3570k in my HTPC.
post #43 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Working on it. Lots of planning going on. I'm tearing the whole roof off my house and rebuilding ... Still laying out details.

I want a wash machine and drier in my master closet off my bedroom. That's causing a bit if planning issue. I'm not compromising though.

Taking off clothes on second floor only to carry down to the basement to wash and then have to carry back up to bedroom is total bullsh1t. I'm not living that life. Clothes belong in only 1 room in the house. They should never leave it unless its on your body.

I also need know dimensions of garage so I can plan the theater above it in the bonus room.

you'll see a thread and plans soon enough. After my vacation. I'm in FL till June smile.gif

I'm currently trying to steal every great idea I can ... Lol. I wish I could render like Mario. That would make it more exciting than sketching a napkin ... Lol

My new construction home has the laundry upstairs, my wife tells me it is indeed amazing wink.gif
post #44 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

A 2600k at 4.5ghz should outperform a stock 3.3ghz i5.

The i7 stock clock I believe is 3400mhz, not 4500mhz.

Sandy bridge overclocks better than Ivy bridge. So in This situation my older 2600k can best my newer 3570k in my HTPC.

Yes, that is what i meant. The i7 architecture roughly 20% faster than the i5 at an equivalent clock speed.
post #45 of 59
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Originally Posted by Davecraze View Post

Yes, that is what i meant. The i7 architecture roughly 20% faster than the i5 at an equivalent clock speed.

Not really, they are the same chips, it's just that the i7 has hyperthreading (4 extra virtual cores) where i5 does not. It does help with multi-threaded tasks such as encoding, but only marginally. The big difference between his i5 and i7 setups was the clock speed difference.

Also, there is less than 10% difference in IPC between Ivy and Sandy Bridge. The die shrink in Ivy Bridge just lowered the power envelope further without any real massive gains in performance. Due to the poor thermal interface of Ivy Bridge's heatspreader (paste instead of solder like on Sandy) the on die temps suffer and leave overclocking performance often less than that of Sandy.
post #46 of 59
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Strong post ^
post #47 of 59
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Originally Posted by emcdade View Post

Due to the poor thermal interface of Ivy Bridge's heatspreader (paste instead of solder like on Sandy) the on die temps suffer and leave overclocking performance often less than that of Sandy.

http://www.eteknix.com/ivy-bridge-heat-problems-remain-even-after-ihs-removal/

Overclocking just seems to be better on tock opposed to tick (new architecture with mature 2nd gen fab as opposed to mature architecture on 1st gen die shrink) - i.e. Conroe>Wolfdale Lynnfield>Clarkdale Sandy>Ivy
post #48 of 59
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I over clocked the sh1t out of my wolfdale .. Lol

It liked it.

I honestly never bother overclocking my Ivy bridge. It's just a HTPC smile.gif. The i5 is already overkill. But @169 the 3570k made sense over a $144 i3 with hd4000.

I'm guessing I could probably hammer it. AsRock z77 extreme with Gskill 2400mhz DDR 3. I'd be curious to test.

Encoding videos from 1080p to 480p is serious business. I'm sure the benefits would be obvious in that task. I'm a bit afraid to push Ivy as hard as I can my Sandy though. My i7 is in a Coolermaster Cosmos II case with good aftermarket CPU cooler. It's also in front of my AC smile.gif. My 3570k is inside an Antec300 with stock Intel cooler.

I read some dudes are re-lidding the Ivy bridge but I'm not going there. Lol
post #49 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Strong post ^

Agreed. Thank you to emcdade for the information.
post #50 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Strong post ^

Agreed. Thank you to emcdade for the information.

I basically knew all that but I'm not sure I could have explained it that well. smile.gif
post #51 of 59
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Originally Posted by oman321 View Post

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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Your like a mind reader smile.gif It's going to look built into wall.

Access from the back from a closet door in another room .

But honestly I'm still playing with ideas.

Lol, definitely start a build thread over in the dedicated build section (I'm not stalking but I've seen you there wink.gif) and post up your plans. Napkin or 3x5 sketches are acceptable biggrin.gif, the guys over there will give you the low down and help guide you in not making the same mistakes that we have. If your space is attached to the main house, it will be important to consider where it's attached to and planning noise isolation to keep WAF high.

Looking foward to seeing what you're able to come up with.

So far here is the rough idea:


32X24 Feet sized with 11.2 speakers. 150" AT DIY screen + False screen wall 30" out per Denis Erksine recommendation. Construction of double DW + GG for sound. Upper 2/3rd wall dark fabric frame, bottom nice stained wood. Dark Carpet (black or grey with some type of lighter pattern). Colors most likely Navy Blue/Purple fabric which seems to play nice with the stained wood color. I am going with DIY speakers and a baffle wall in front- And double sides (one for each row) which I guess technically might make it 14.2 smile.gif Dual subs- with tuning after completion. I might go with more subs.. but I already own two. I think I will do some monster DIY sub project after the room is done. Going to do a DIY AT screen with DIY masking.... 2:35:1 screen that masks to 16x9 for sports. Front row 12 feet from screen. 4 theater chairs (Black leather). Second row will be a black leather couch in the center so I can fall asleep or lay down when I am lazy- flanked by two more theater chairs. I playing around with the idea of adding a third row of 8-10 cheap folding seats like a commercial movie theater.. will depend on how much room I have. I want a countertop overlooking the back of the back row... and then a bar in the back. I also plan to make a sound proof AV closet inside the room- and have the component face the side behind the two rows so the lights don't distract much. I will soundproof the HVAC ducts.. Star Ceiling. I plan to do 10ft walls... but in the center where the star ceiling is I can go up to 12ft; it will be flat versus being peaked since this is the bonus room above the garage. I also want a PC desk in the back corner opposite the entrance and next to the 10 foot wet bar... next to the AV closet which will hold the component and my server and HTPC. I'll have three PC's in the theater- desktop, HTPC and Server biggrin.gif and all will be hooked up to the system. I am going to automate the entire room (ceiling, led lights, masking, screen, curtains, sconces, rope lighting, bar LED etc... ) I also plan a DIY digital movie poster that can change movie posters either randomly... or display the "now playing"

Ok... those are basically some of what I am working on tongue.gif

I do love that forum. It's just different than this forum. In this forum there is a prevailing appreciation for modesty, value, and simplicity and a disregard for performance. In that forum there is an infection and prevailing sickness of many members that is uncompromising, excessive, and just plain freakin' awesome. I've seen threads were dudes made really nice square columns in their theaters, only to tear them out immediately and scrap them and make hard to configure round columns over the most minuscule nuances or dislikes. I saw another dude get a mini bobcat excavator and dig out under his house for high enough walls and making a basement. Another guy actually build his theater then decided the walls were too low... tore the whole thing out and raised the roof.

My goal in this project is to do the room as properly as I can at the expense of using great HT gear. I'll have time in the future to upgrade my gear, and my budget is pretty limited. This is going to be a challenge for me to incorporate as many of the great ideas and practices out there- and squeeze every last amount of awesome with a very limited budget. If I am successful I should have a middle class theater than can hang and perhaps surpass a pro theater. I've taken some amazing information and insight from many of the builds there, including Cathan, BigMouthinDC's, Mario, Sandman etc... I always admired Mr Poindexter's theater from back in the day. If I had to chose a theater that gave me the "dream" it was his many years ago. I'm just happy I might actually have the opportunity to do it finally.
post #52 of 59
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I'm a little late to see this thread (since I'm on travel in California) and I too thought all your files were lost. Instead I got to learn that a faster processor processes faster.

Actually, what many of us seem to have learned from this threads title is... We're old!

Sent from my Nexus 7
post #53 of 59
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

I'm a little late to see this thread (since I'm on travel in California) and I too thought all your files were lost. Instead I got to learn that a faster processor processes faster.

Actually, what many of us seem to have learned from this threads title is... We're old!

Sent from my Nexus 7

I almost changed my decade old signature to Bryansj quote:

"Instead I got to learn that a faster processor processes faster"

I am not sure why I like that line so much. biggrin.gif
post #54 of 59
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

So... Interesting experiment by chance I thought I would share my experience.

I'm currently on route to sunny FL for some needed vacation time. We are driving down from MA with my parents so we can bring the dog with us. Wife and I are flying home but my parents are staying a little longer and taking dogs back when they drive home.

I am kind of jealous of my dog right now. She's been going to the beach the bars everyday without me. My dog loves the beach and loves beach bars.













My parents keep sending me these pictures to rub it in.. while I am at work. mad.gif
post #55 of 59
I believe the newest version of HandBrake also will utilize the GPU for some of the encoding tasks - I don't know what your specs are, but that may be helping with the 'raping'
post #56 of 59
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Originally Posted by CBRworm View Post

I believe the newest version of HandBrake also will utilize the GPU for some of the encoding tasks - I don't know what your specs are, but that may be helping with the 'raping'

I actually don't encode that much. The 1080p Bluray rips do take a while. When I realized last minute I needed to get some onto an itouch and the 40GB sized files were not going to work I quickly went to town on handbrake.

I just bought a 4770k to replace the 2600k so I am excited to see the benefits- (if any) in such a task. It appears to be a good bit better, but I am not sure how easily it would overclock. I plan to let others find the edge for me first.
post #57 of 59
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Well- my new 4770k appears to be a much better encoder than my 2600k was. At the same clock speed (4.2ghz) there is really no contest at all.

The Passmark score for the 4770k is almost 3000 points higher than my 2600k when overclocked.

Ran a couple comparison tests today- and the 4770k is faster by a noticeable amount.
post #58 of 59
Sounds about right.


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post #59 of 59
Thread Starter 
The 2600k is easier to keep cool though. That's probably as big a difference as the speed difference.
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