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post #2071 of 11447
Hi-

Looking forward to delivery next week & thought I'd seek the collective intelligence of the forum to address a couple few questions. I tend to be a little fastidious, paranoid & lazy which makes audio & video component purchases a challenge. Anyway:

1) Downloaded 2 manuals from Panny: 1 titled ehelp, the other just the set's model number......which is most helpful for INITIAL set up?
2) If I i put settings on THX Cinema, Full Screen, & <50 contrast will they remain fixed until changed? All input will be through 1 HDMI out of a pre amp.
3) Can I use an OTA antennae set to an empty channel (noise) for break in, pixel flips, wipes, etc? I assume I can use the remote to switch between antennas when I want to watch sources switched through the pre amp.
4) What are the 3 - 5 must do settings for initial use? I get the pixel flips, wipes etc, but flinch every time I see the ABC or other network logos resting on the screen & want to avoid IR as best I can.



Thanks!!
post #2072 of 11447
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Edited by changboy - 12/30/13 at 7:12pm
post #2073 of 11447
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Any updates?
No! But they told it would be several weeks before I was contacted. So for now I just wait.
post #2074 of 11447
The new firmware is out and supposedly fixed at least pure direct mode supposedly.

Does anyone run 4:4:4 out of their players or do you all restrict it to 4:2:2? I checked out 4:4:4 from my oppo + pure direct watching avatar and it looked like the artifacts introduced by pure direct are now gone.

I know blu-rays are mastered in general to 4:2:0 but does anyone use 4:4:4 over 4:2:0?
post #2075 of 11447
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post #2076 of 11447
New firmware was installed on my 65ZT. No idea what has changed, if anything.
post #2077 of 11447
quick question - i have been watching the tv, mostly at night, since friday last week. i think in total, i must have logged only about 10-12 hours max, if even that.

then i started running d-nice color slides about an hour ago.

my question is - am i too late? should i have started d-nice's slides from hour zero?

would it be bad to start running the color slides now that i am 10 hours (or so) in? should i stop them or keep going?

thanks so much guys!
post #2078 of 11447
I think you are fine.
post #2079 of 11447
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Originally Posted by sooke View Post

I compared reflections of the ZT and VT side by side at my local Best Buy. Their were lights behind me and the TVs were literally right next to each other. I could tell a difference. The ZT reflections were dimmer, but not by a large degree. Just enough to tell a difference. Not sure if that really helps you. I can't put a number on it.

At the time, the ZTs were on sale for the same price as the VTs, so I got the ZT. There are 4 windows in my family room (no curtains) and wanted all the help I could get with reflections. I've had the ZT for 13 days now, and reflection from a window directly across from the TV is an annoyance. So the ZT filter doesn't solve the problem, though I am impressed at how much it seems to help.

Thank you for your input!
post #2080 of 11447
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Originally Posted by SurajDas2013 View Post


my question is - am i too late?
Ask yourself, "Too late for what?"

At this point, there are no D-Nice settings for your display. It's possible that there never will be.

If you want to get to three hundred hours on your set faster, then it's fine to use the slides for safe aging. If you're happy doing what you're doing now, that will be fine too. Just remember to not watch any material with the same fixed image for long periods of time.

The only reason I mentioned 300 hours is that it's been reported that your set will stabilize after about that amount of time. It's also true that you can use D-Nice's settings in any case. You just won't get the exact same results that you would have if you had followed his procedure exactly. Individual set differences prevent anyone from exactly duplicating D-Nice's results. You would need to hire him to do that. wink.gif
post #2081 of 11447
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Originally Posted by roadbike60035 View Post

1) Downloaded 2 manuals from Panny: 1 titled ehelp, the other just the set's model number......which is most helpful for INITIAL set up?
2) If I i put settings on THX Cinema, Full Screen, & <50 contrast will they remain fixed until changed? All input will be through 1 HDMI out of a pre amp.
3) Can I use an OTA antennae set to an empty channel (noise) for break in, pixel flips, wipes, etc? I assume I can use the remote to switch between antennas when I want to watch sources switched through the pre amp.
4) What are the 3 - 5 must do settings for initial use? I get the pixel flips, wipes etc, but flinch every time I see the ABC or other network logos resting on the screen & want to avoid IR as best I can.
1.) The "Owner's Manual" is pretty basic. It covers the usual warnings, what's in the box and elementary connections (i.e. cable box, Blu-ray player, etc.) The "eHelp Manual" is much more informative. I believe all info in this is also on the TV itself. As far as setup goes, there's a tutorial that'll run you through that when you turn on the TV for the first time.
2.) I believe that once you change settings they stay that way unless you restore to default settings.
3.) I haven't done this myself buy I don't know why you wouldn't be able to do this, unless the TV goes to blue screen when on an unassigned channel. And yes, you'd use the remote to cycle through inputs.
4.) I turned on my TV, set up the network, settled on the picture mode I preferred (THX Cinema) and proceeded to watch TV/movies. Network logos are really annoying, but a couple of hours on one particular channel isn't going to result in any image retention. If I watch a baseball game for a while I might switch to HBO because it's 16:9 with no logos but I do this more for peace of mind than necessity. At 200+ hours I have yet to see any IR of any kind.
post #2082 of 11447
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

4.) I turned on my TV, set up the network, settled on the picture mode I preferred (THX Cinema) and proceeded to watch TV/movies. Network logos are really annoying, but a couple of hours on one particular channel isn't going to result in any image retention. If I watch a baseball game for a while I might switch to HBO because it's 16:9 with no logos but I do this more for peace of mind than necessity. At 200+ hours I have yet to see any IR of any kind.

I couldn't agree more. This is exactly what I have done since mine was delivered almost two weeks ago. I have 100+ hours so far and do not have any IR or banding issues.
post #2083 of 11447
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

^^^Latex gloves would work but I just use regular winter gloves. Socks would work too for those of you in the warner climates.
Oh glass can be a bare to get streak free sometimes. Nothing like thinking ahead !
post #2084 of 11447
THX Bright worked rather well in my brightly-lit living room, but CNET settings seem to be delivering the best of both worlds - day and night viewing.

Question:

Has anyone had the opportunity to utilize the calibration feature in the VieraRemote2 app?


Thanks!
Edited by REKing - 7/31/13 at 12:27pm
post #2085 of 11447
The ZT60 is my first plasma. Had it for about 2 weeks now. I gather from reading many threads in this forum that during the first 100-300 hours the phosphors "break-in", "settle-down", etc. Does that mean they get dimmer?

My ZT60 seems plenty bright (happily!). Whites appear bright and pure. But when I look at the ZT60 or VT60 in my local Best Buy, they always seem dim to me. I know, people will say there is too much bright ambient light in Best Buy, but the VT/ZT are in the Magnolia room, which seems fairly dark. And I've played with the settings to make sure C.A.T.S. is off.

So I'm wondering, will my set become noticeably dimmer in a few hundred more hours? What should I expect?

On a possibly related subject, when I set my brightness and contrast with the Disney WOW disk, contrast > 50 causes white clipping. Is this typical for others with ZT60?

Thanks.
post #2086 of 11447
^No way will it become dimmer in just 200 hours. The half-life brightness point is 100,000 hours.
post #2087 of 11447
Guys I have a couple of things to ask,

1. How can I keep an eye on TV's internal temp? I am covering the fans with silencers, so I want to avoid over heating.
2. I am using digital audio optical output on the TV. Seems like when I send DTS, TV does not pass it thorough. My AVR shows DTS detected but no sound comes out.
post #2088 of 11447
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^No way will it become dimmer in just 200 hours. The half-life brightness point is 100,000 hours.
I had the same reaction. smile.gif
post #2089 of 11447
Thanks. Would anyone know whether an OTA antenna tuned to an unused station might work for "snow" image for scrubbing & break in purposes? Or if the set would display a solid, blank screen?
post #2090 of 11447
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Originally Posted by roadbike60035 View Post

Thanks. Would anyone know whether an OTA antenna tuned to an unused station might work for "snow" image for scrubbing & break in purposes? Or if the set would display a solid, blank screen?
I get a black screen with a msg that says "channel/signal not available".
post #2091 of 11447
Hey guys, two quick questions. Is using the screen wipe within the 1st hundred hours ok?? Also, I'm getting a white speck randomly when watching directv; its never in the same spot.... any idea if its the source? hdmi? tv? Thanks for the help guys.
post #2092 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

Hey guys, two quick questions. Is using the screen wipe within the 1st hundred hours ok?? Also, I'm getting a white speck randomly when watching directv; its never in the same spot.... any idea if its the source? hdmi? tv? Thanks for the help guys.
If you don't see it anywhere else, then it stands to reason that it's in either the source material or the delivery chain.
post #2093 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

Hey guys, two quick questions. Is using the screen wipe within the 1st hundred hours ok?? Also, I'm getting a white speck randomly when watching directv; its never in the same spot.... any idea if its the source? hdmi? tv? Thanks for the help guys.
You can use the screen wipe any time you want.
post #2094 of 11447
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If you don't see it anywhere else, then it stands to reason that it's in either the source material or the delivery chain.


I have a new monoprice redmere cable hooked up... I'm hoping its not a bad cable, from my understanding hdmi cables either work or they dont. I noticed the white specks on the f8500 I had too now that I'm thinking about it. I'll test the tv with my blu ray player see if I have the same issue. Anyone else with directv see any occasional white specks?
post #2095 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

I have a new monoprice redmere cable hooked up... I'm hoping its not a bad cable, from my understanding hdmi cables either work or they dont. I noticed the white specks on the f8500 I had too now that I'm thinking about it. I'll test the tv with my blu ray player see if I have the same issue. Anyone else with directv see any occasional white specks?
Its unlikely but it could be the cable.
post #2096 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

I have a new monoprice redmere cable hooked up... I'm hoping its not a bad cable, from my understanding hdmi cables either work or they dont. I noticed the white specks on the f8500 I had too now that I'm thinking about it. I'll test the tv with my blu ray player see if I have the same issue. Anyone else with directv see any occasional white specks?

my buddy has the same issue on direct tv, but he has a Sony XBR.
post #2097 of 11447
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Originally Posted by rx74ray View Post

my buddy has the same issue on direct tv, but he has a Sony XBR.
Just replaced my 60" XBR2 (rear projection) with one of these. Hadn't noticed any occasional white specks on the XBR2, nor have I on the 65zt60 (though it's pretty new), but it could be just something I tune out. Sure it's not just dust specks on films or something?

My big problem with directv was (and occasionally may still be) an audio dropout every so often when using dolby digital; there was a thread on some website (can't recall which, it was devoted to sat tv) where it was discussed a lot (about the same time I became a subscriber 3 years ago), so it wasn't just me though. Seems to be much more rare, but every so often it still happens (would happen 3 or 4 times per hour back in the beginning). Have the same receiver and directv equipment still. Perhaps try my workaround of hdmi into the receiver for video and coax to the receiver for sound (the directv equipment seemed to lock up too often when both audio and video were fed to the receiver over hdmi), another trick I found at that website -- I don't know whether they ever fixed that lockup problem or not since I'm fine with it set up the way it is now.

One thing I haven't seen on directv since switching to the zt60 is the whatchamacallit phenomenon where different slight changes in shades of color had outlines around them. So far.

Anyway, try another cable would be my suggestion.



I decided that all 3 hdmi cables to the tv would be skinnier ones, basically 28 gauge ones with the ferrite cores (each being 12ft long). Cost was just slightly more than getting the swivel adapters others are using, and it's just one less thing to deal with. Hope they keep on keeping on.



And finally tried the oppo's hdmi link only to my old (hdmi 1.1) receiver today and was able to get it working just the same as when I split the video and audio apart using two hdmi cables (video straight to tv, audio to receiver) -> 1080p/24 @ 96Hz (info (via info button) says 1080p/24). (Obviously no 3D video though.) So receiver seems not to be the weakest link in my system, seems to be the player(s) (the old Panasonic BD35 that won't stay set to 1080p (ends up with automatic setting of 1080i each time it's switched to, and tv only sees it as 1080p (no /24) when I switch it back to 1080p/24; didn't play very much with the hd-dvd player, but it seemed to have a problem getting /24 across to the tv too, but will be checking that out more later to see if that's always going to be the case or was just what was going on that particular time).

So: Oppo 93 good, Panasonic BD35 not so much. 65zt60: awesome.
post #2098 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If you don't see it anywhere else, then it stands to reason that it's in either the source material or the delivery chain.


I have a new monoprice redmere cable hooked up... I'm hoping its not a bad cable, from my understanding hdmi cables either work or they dont. I noticed the white specks on the f8500 I had too now that I'm thinking about it. I'll test the tv with my blu ray player see if I have the same issue. Anyone else with directv see any occasional white specks?
What you've described isn't similar to any HDMI cable symptom that I'm familiar with. A bad HDMI cable might give you white sparkles over the whole screen, but not an individual white spot that moves around.
post #2099 of 11447
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Originally Posted by iChristopher View Post

I have a new monoprice redmere cable hooked up... I'm hoping its not a bad cable, from my understanding hdmi cables either work or they dont.

It could very well be a bad cable. I re-cabled my entire system with Redmere cables a few months ago, seven HDMI cables in all. Two weeks after swapping out the cables I started getting "snow" with one of my BD players. Only the "snow" would start out light and get worse until the signal was totally lost. Wiggling the end of the cable would sometimes fix it. Turned out to be a bum cable which Monoprice promptly replaced and I haven't had any other issues since. These are active cables so snow or specs from a defective cable is entirely possible. That being said, I love the Redmere cables and wouldn't buy anything else again. Try swapping the cable with a known good cable.
post #2100 of 11447
I received the HDMI swivel doohickey today. It's effectively just a 90 degree angle, so rather than heading out the side of the TV the HDMI now points back toward the wall. Less stress on the cable and the signal seems to be fine. Thumbs up.
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