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post #211 of 11399
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Originally Posted by stpetematt View Post



Here's another a little clearer taken durning the day from the Avengers Blu Ray.

AUGGHHH!!! I was just about to order this TV this weekend but the reflective trim is soooo frustrating!
post #212 of 11399
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

AUGGHHH!!! I was just about to order this TV this weekend but the reflective trim is soooo frustrating!

You're supposed to look at the picture, boe. Heheh! You can't see the frame at night and the picture is so nice I don't recall seeing it during the day.
post #213 of 11399
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Originally Posted by stpetematt View Post

You're supposed to look at the picture, boe. Heheh! You can't see the frame at night and the picture is so nice I don't recall seeing it during the day.

How can you even see the picture with that reflection? Even in a dimly lit room look at that reflection. I'd really like this TV but would HATE to have to ghetto it up with black electrical tape just to make it tolerable. They should have made that trim removable.


It makes me think of that seen in Rudolf when his father puts a cover on his nose to try to hide the blinding glare.
Edited by boe - 5/30/13 at 8:53pm
post #214 of 11399
To each his own I guess. I like the way it looks and have never found it distracting.
post #215 of 11399
I was not sure about the chrome at first either but I love it now. bring out the display when its off. adds some more class to it
post #216 of 11399

ZT60 now has about 88 hours on it.
This is from an ABC show that is 720P
Still looks very nice!
post #217 of 11399
Thread Starter 
Like someone else said, I even use thx cinema not bright room during the day. To reiterate I have a window on the side wall and a window directly opposite if the tv

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post #218 of 11399
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Originally Posted by Albert C. Lee View Post

Looking forward to receiving my 65" ZT60 next week. Just waiting for a call from the shipper on which day works for them.

I think all this navel gazing on Kuro blacks vs ZT blacks is funny. Measuring specs on these ultra-high performance sets are more about feeling good about your purchase -- like getting a high performance car and then spending money to get 5 more HP that you'll never really feel or enjoy in real life. Unless you guys have super tightly controlled viewing rooms (obviously some of you guys do), the only thing that matters is what the experience is from your favorite seat.

You can tune your set to match your environment better, but even the Kuro sucks if you have a wall of windows near your TV and you can't pull down the shades. Willing to bet most folks here can't control their lighting to the level needed to get 100% out of their reference panels where black levels on the level of the ZT60 or Kuro matter so much that you'd stay awake at night!.
Watching in the evening time, it's not hard to control 99% of the light. wink.gif It is largely academic, but even the final two Kuro models provided noticeable improvement for owners at the time (at least when compared side by side in dark rooms, and thus would at least provide for a subtly deeper immersion for said owners when viewing regularly). After being spoiled by deep blacks, there's no point in downgrading in this realm if it's not necessary.
post #219 of 11399
I see a slight glare from the top but it looks as if you are standing to take the picture. Is it really that bad when you're sitting and watching? I'm not a huge fan of the chrome trim myself but it wouldn't stop me from buying this set; it is so sexy in every way! Congrats, Gary.

Oops, forgot to quote Boe's post.
post #220 of 11399
Picked up my old Sony 52 and got my 65ZT60



Pictures were taken with my phone. Time for slides
post #221 of 11399
I was standing when taking the picture. Again it is virtually not noticeable while sitting and surely looks very nice on the wall when its off.

If there's a drop off in blacks from the Kuro to the ZT, I don't know how the human eye could possibly see it. The blacks on the ZT are pitch black.

Oh- and what is BOC syndrome that could be caused by a Game of Thrones marathon? And I really enjoyed Albert Lee's post and couldn't agree more. I wish I could take a month off from work right now and watch all my favorite movies over again to see all the details I missed...
post #222 of 11399
Today I have noticed increased fan noise from the ZT60.
Notice it even while watching the news at normal volume.
I not sure anything can done about it. I had the Panny V10 before
And it's fans were dead quiet. It is a little annoying.
Maybe I can learn to ignore it.
post #223 of 11399
I will have my ZT today.
post #224 of 11399
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

Today I have noticed increased fan noise from the ZT60.
Notice it even while watching the news at normal volume.
I not sure anything can done about it. I had the Panny V10 before
And it's fans were dead quiet. It is a little annoying.
Maybe I can learn to ignore it.
Is it wall mounted?
post #225 of 11399
No it is not wall mounted.
post #226 of 11399
Almost every one said ZT THX Cenima, and THX Bright are best out of the box settings. But, I see the whites look darker, yellowish on these (may be due to my set is only few hours old ).

So, How can I modify my custom setting to overcome this (white to be white) without losing the quality of the picture ?

basically, I am trying to see what should I do to get a picture, which is equaling to source (as director intended).
post #227 of 11399
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Originally Posted by KPL1234 View Post

Almost every one said ZT THX Cenima, and THX Bright are best out of the box settings. But, I see the whites look darker, yellowish on these (may be due to my set is only few hours old ).

So, How can I modify my custom setting to overcome this (white to be white) without losing the quality of the picture ?

basically, I am trying to see what should I do to get a picture, which is equaling to source (as director intended).

That sounds white balance related only way to fix that is thur a diy or pro cal, there will be some settings floating around soon that you might get lucky with but it really varies from panel to panel
post #228 of 11399
Does anyone know how to check hours on a ZT60?
post #229 of 11399
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Originally Posted by KPL1234 View Post

Almost every one said ZT THX Cenima, and THX Bright are best out of the box settings. But, I see the whites look darker, yellowish on these (may be due to my set is only few hours old ).

So, How can I modify my custom setting to overcome this (white to be white) without losing the quality of the picture ?

basically, I am trying to see what should I do to get a picture, which is equaling to source (as director intended).

Try CNet's calibration settings linked on page 1 of this thread. Whites get a lot whiter as you get to 100 hours. You will be modifying cinema mode (not THX cinema) to get CNet's settings. They are very good and a bit brighter due to mid panel brightness setting.
post #230 of 11399
Just to comment on the vertical band on the right hand side, it is very common on panasonic displays, my vt20 vt30 wt50 and vt50 have all had it. I went through 3 vt20 and all of them had it. Some show it worst then others. If yours is very faint and only noticed on the grey slide like my vt50 I'd hold on to it.




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Originally Posted by Sammie2980 View Post

My number is 545 on a 65ZT60

Got it from MHT. Ordered 4/30 and first delivery date was delayed which was scheduled for 5/13 then rescheduled for 5/24 which it came on biggrin.gif

Have 67 hours on it already and can calibrate soon with ControlCal and Chromapure













Below are impressions I have posted in other threads

This is no where near my full impressions, but a few things right off the bat from the 6 or so hours I have spent with the set.

First the few things I don't like and this nothing to do with the display itself. Just 2 small small things.

1. The 3D glasses don't come in a case like they did with the VT25, and VT30 I have.
2. The remote. It is ok very plain. I was really hoping for the remote that came with the EU models. It just looks more high end.
3. The viera control app is good for making adjustments but it reads everything at 100% or dead on in the CIE chart which obviously isn't the case

Now for the display itself...

I love this thing so far. I haven't calibrated it yet as I'm waiting to get the hours on the display which between running slides and watching TV 24/7 the next few days I plan to have 100 on it by Monday night, maybe tuesday morning. I have been running it with slides using Dnices settings and watching it on cinema with low contrast. After which I'll calibrate it and give full impressions.

After going through the picture modes THX bright is actually pretty damn bright, I havent measure it but it's more then enough for day viewing in a moderately naturally lit room imho, THX cinema seems to be more accurate though, and EBU seems almost identical to THX cinema though it seems that green is a little high. Motion on this display is superb, very fluid.

I'm not sure if it is the gradations or the new red phosphor or a combination of both but I'm pretty sure I was seeing some different shades that I previously missed on other displays. Will have to check on my VT30 and 500M though to make sure. I originally thought it was a uniformity issue but I know it wasn't that as I checked for it when I started running the panel and it has no uniformity issues. No dead pixels or banding that I can see. I still havent checked for line bleed though that will be later tonight.

The panel is light also. soooo much lighter than my VT30. After moving my VT30 to the bedroom picking up the ZT and mounting it made it feel like a feather lol.

Aesthetically this display is sexy! The chrome trim pulls it all together. At first I wasn't sure about the chrome, but it adds an element of class to it. It just looks high end with the chrome shining.

Having it at the time of day I got it was perfect because that is my problem time so I got to see first hand how it effects my issue. Reflections on a black screen will always be there but what I found was with the filter. It basically eats light. Meaning when light hits it instead of spreading around the screen, it stays central to the area it it, and minimizes reflections around that spot. This is with daylight and ambient light like a lamp. Also it makes the light source hitting it dimmer then it normally would be. Leagues ahead of my VT30.

Overall very happy with my purchase. The 8500 was also on the list, and is no doubt a fine display, but for me the ZT is the only option.

Running the 12 color slides I really didn't see much. So I switched to 120 color slides and found a very very very faint band to the right of the set as well as to the left. The left one is very difficult to see. It also only shows with one of the grays. The right side one of the blues and one of the purples. Not sure if you have seen the 120 slide set but it is showing on the pinkish/purple color one. The one that is like 2 away from white. That being said I actually had to look for it to see it by looking at the center of the set and from center look to the left or right you will kind of see but the second I try to look at it seems to get lost when trying to see it. If you had the set in 4:3 and had that color bar on the side you would see it maybe

I dont see it on full screen whites which wold be my main concern. Over all it looks like I have maybe 2-3 vertical bands. It's so faint though it's not a concern.

Update to this after having the display for about 72 hours running 24/7

The vertical bands have all pretty much disappeared except for the one on the far right which is about an inch in from the edge.

Display has minimal plasma buzz on full whites or high IRE screens. Nothing not normal for plasma. The fans are quite, and surprisingly it really isn't even all that hot.
post #231 of 11399
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Originally Posted by stpetematt View Post

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Try CNet's calibration settings linked on page 1 of this thread. Whites get a lot whiter as you get to 100 hours. You will be modifying cinema mode (not THX cinema) to get CNet's settings. They are very good and a bit brighter due to mid panel brightness setting.

Thanks, will do...
post #232 of 11399
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I disagree! That will result in BOC syndrome. eek.gif
(Hereditary) breast-ovarian cancer?
Boards of Canada?
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Blood On the Carpet > BOC smile.gif
post #233 of 11399
Anyone know the code to get a Comcast remote work with the ZT60? Used all the codes Comcast provided.
post #234 of 11399
Long time lurker, first time posting. Yesterday I received my first Plasma TV, the ZT60. Question. Is the faint humming sound only heard when scenes are silent normal? This is also heard when first turning on the set. It's not the buzzing sound that can only be heard when putting your ear near the TV.

It is not a deal breaker. The TV is gorgeous, but I want to find out if it is common with plasmas. Thank you!
post #235 of 11399
set #307 done with breakin c-net settings do look.think i will use these settings till i can get d-nice to do a calib.
post #236 of 11399
Watched part of Life of Pi in 3D on the ZT60. Gorgeous movie! The 3D looked amazing! Highly recommend watching Life of Pi in 3D
On the ZT60.
post #237 of 11399
My amp doesn't support 3D so I need a workaround. I really want to try the 3D on the set! May have to spring for that Oppo BDP103...
post #238 of 11399
Are all of you running slides prior to viewing?
post #239 of 11399
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Originally Posted by dasanii19 View Post

Are all of you running slides prior to viewing?

I did some light full-screen watching the first night, but am running D-Nice's slides for 100 hours before playing with settings (even though he hasn't posted any ZT-60 settings yet). Not doing it religiously though, I'll probably stop the slides to watch a movie or two this weekend, and just run when not watching and overnight.
post #240 of 11399
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Originally Posted by stpetematt View Post

My amp doesn't support 3D so I need a workaround. I really want to try the 3D on the set! May have to spring for that Oppo BDP103...

Run HDMI from PS3 to display and use optical to receiver for sound, you will get the lossy dolby and dts varieties, but everything else will work, you will have to redo display properties for ps3. This is for 3D.
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