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Originally Posted by Lost! View Post

That is true, but battery in the remote is suspicious... Neither of my 5 sets had battery installed. Batteries were sealed in two packs of two.
Oh, no question. I would check the hours. If there was more than I had watched and the TV was sold as a new unit I would return it or demand a discount. But I'm not sure if everyone knows that it's common to have a TV show up with an open box.
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Thanks for the reply, I appreciate the information. It is because the PCM is 2-channel that I do not want it. Do you happen to know what type of MPEG automatically defaults to PCM (i.e. MPEG-2, MPEG-4, all MPEG, et al - assuming I am understanding the terminology)? Is there a way to display what "Auto" is doing at any particular moment?

I guess I am confused as to what MPEG is or isn't (are they referring to the video container, audio container, both???). I'm not overly familiar with the codecs or AV formats - but I do know PCM will strip my surround sound (or at least, that is what I've read on the intertubes as it is only 2 channel). While PCM may be lossless and other formats lossy, I like the surround effect - particularly since I am using a soundbar currently. If I am listening to music only, I can see the advantage in PCM - but movie soundtracks can be more dynamic with surround.
I would assume all MPEG audio defaults to PCM but I'm not sure. The eHelp on the TV--a built-in user manual-- is where I found the info I posted before. It didn't specify.

I'd think the Info button would be able to give you real-time audio output signal. Does your soundbar have 5 discreet channels? If not the audio signal is being down-mixed to 2-channel anyway. And if it does you don't really have the sound stage to implement surround audio. For example, the rear surround speakers are supposed to be to your side or behind you and shouldn't be coming from a speaker in front of you. If all 5 speakers are in a 3-4 foot horizontal array I'm not sure if discreet surround audio signals would give you much benefit over simple 2-channel, but I could be wrong. Further, you can have a difficult time telling lossy from uncompressed on largerspeakers so I'm not sure if I'd expect to hear much of a difference between the two out of the type of drivers you typically find in a soundbar.
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Originally Posted by Lost! View Post

That is true, but battery in the remote is suspicious... Neither of my 5 sets had battery installed. Batteries were sealed in two packs of two.
The true test to see if a unit is cracked is to power the unit on real quick. Remote makes it easier to do this. In the end you might as well check the hours on your set. Some units are spot checked and tested by Panasonic as well, so this would not be a 100% situation, knowing if you got a returned set or not.
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^^^ And another thing to look at would be the power cycle count. That's the other number that comes up when checking hours.
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Even though those settings are for the European set I prefer these settings much more than the CNET settings. Black / White films look so much better on the above settings link IMO than CNET. However I feel like I still want a professional to calibrate mine. I'm only at 153hrs at this time. I'm a film geek so I prefer film grain etc to be seen and want to put this tv settings to benefit the BLUs I watch.
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Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
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Originally Posted by RNaval View Post

Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
No.
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Originally Posted by RNaval View Post

Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
Not at all. I don't give much credence to arbitrary calculations and formulas, but THX's recommended viewing distance is (screen size/.084). In the case of a 65" screen that's 77+ inches, or about 6 1/2 feet. IMO that's a bit close. My rule is a bit looser. I say if you can't read subtitles you're not close enough and if your have to move your head to read them you're too close. Beyond that it's just a matter of preference.
Edited by repete66211 - 8/19/13 at 5:00pm
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Nice set-up Walter White!
Hope Jesse doesn't flip on you. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by RNaval View Post

Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
No!
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Has anyone else watched a BLU ray and that annoying OSD stating 3D signal detected! I hate that, it happened to me on the opening of All the Presidents Men right after the logo when the screen is blank. Happened again before the end credits of a film started playing. I can't recall the title of that BLU though.
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No, haven't noticed it. Is your Oppo connected through the Marantz or directly to the ZT60?
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No, haven't noticed it. Is your Oppo connected through the Marantz or directly to the ZT60?

Thru the Marantz
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I've seen the "3D detected" more than once. As I recall I've seen it for both disc and cable programming but, interestingly, not when I've played 3D content.
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Since my ole Pioneer SC-05 is not 3D capable, I bypass it with a direct connection from the Oppo. Haven't watched any cable/satellite on it, only discs and haven't seen the 3D OSD yet (though I have seen the no input OSD when content switches on disc, i.e. end of a trailer to the main menu).
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Nice set-up Walter White!
Hope Jesse doesn't flip on you. wink.gif

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I´ll hope He will accepting me!smile.gif Thanks!
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Originally Posted by RNaval View Post

Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
No.
No.smile.gif

Based on one expert recommendation you would be perfect at 8.7' for detail and for 30 degrees viewing angle for immersion. A 36 degree angle is perfect for immersion but that's hard to come by at home.
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

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Originally Posted by RNaval View Post

Question for ZT60 owners: Is a 10 foot viewing distance too close for the 65ZT60?
Not at all. I don't give much credence to arbitrary calculations and formulas, but THX's recommended viewing distance is VD/.084. In the case of a 65" screen that's 77+ inches, or about 6 1/2 feet. IMO that's a bit close. My rule is a bit looser. I say if you can't read subtitles you're not close enough and if your have to move your head to read them you're too close. Beyond that it's just a matter of preference.
I like that. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by skTVuser1 View Post

We got our Zt60 delivered last week, while I am happy with the PQ, I have some general questions. How do you find the number of hours in the TV? Did the box contents appear filmsy, nothing was sealed for me and it is supposed to be brand new (not open box). No box for 3D, the remote already had battery. Other than that, all looks good but would like to verify the number of hours on the TV. Also the slides for pre-calibration, I am pretty happy with cinema and thx cinema mode, if I dont intend to calibrate, do I still need todo the slide show to "age" the plasma. Thanks for the details. Hope someone puts out a sticky thread with all newbie questions so we dont keep repeating. Sorry if many are repeat questions.

I have opened well over 100 brand new TV's and have yet to have one come out of the box with batteries already in the remote. I hate to sound so definitive without having witnessed you open the box, but it is quite odd that they were already in the remote. Any update on checking the hours?
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

I have opened well over 100 brand new TV's and have yet to have one come out of the box with batteries already in the remote. I hate to sound so definitive without having witnessed you open the box, but it is quite odd that they were already in the remote. Any update on checking the hours?


My delivery for my replacement ZT is set for the 26th... I'm thinking of pushing the delivery back a week. My tv will be coming from best buys warehouse in Chino, CA does anyone know if I change my delivery do they keep the same ZT they were going to delivery the 26th on hold for a week or do they grab the tv's from inventory the day of delivery? Just want to get a ZT from the newest batch (hoping that fan issue has been fixed)
Edited by iChristopher - 8/19/13 at 7:37pm
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Edited by changboy - 12/29/13 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

^^^ And another thing to look at would be the power cycle count. That's the other number that comes up when checking hours.
That is a good check as well. I know over here, if we have local deliveries, we always power on the set, we do tell the client in advance as well. I am not bringing out a DOA or damaged set, now that is a waist of time. DOA's or damaged units are rare, but It happens.
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update: hours 114, power cycle 81 !!
needless to say, i am fuming ! we have hardly watched 10 hrs on this. By the way, no fan noise at all.
Anyway am returning it ...going to another store maybe BB this time.
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Edited by changboy - 12/29/13 at 8:13pm
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Does "power cycle" mean how many times it's been turned on and off?
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Probably just the number of power-ups.
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

Does "power cycle" mean how many times it's been turned on and off?

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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Probably just the number of power-ups.
Both are probably true. In order to turn it off you have to turn it on. On and then Off would seem to be a "power cycle".
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Yup, it's semantics. wink.gif I find it less complicated to define it as the # of times it's been powered on.
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Originally Posted by skTVuser1 View Post

update: hours 114, power cycle 81 !!
needless to say, i am fuming ! we have hardly watched 10 hrs on this. By the way, no fan noise at all.
Anyway am returning it ...going to another store maybe BB this time.
Busted! It was being sold as new? Wow, that's just plain bad business. You can return it but if it were me I'd give them an option. "You can take it back or you can refund $X", with the $X being something pretty significant, like $1,000, or whatever brings the price down to half MSRP. The best way to punish a business owner is in the pocketbook.
Edited by repete66211 - 8/20/13 at 6:24am
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yes, was sold as new. I have the receipt that says it. i have half a mind to report them to BBB. No dont want more discount...Trust is gone, they were better then Best Buy by $200 or so, i would rather spend that money now than trust this other place. Unbelievable !
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