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in that link under color temp it says "warm", I assume it is warm 1?
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

europe is the ZT65 and they not have the same setting then us so for color temp they just have choice of cold, normal, warm
here we have cold2 and warm 2 and me i use warm 2 its more natural.

With that particular setting, Warm1 looked better on my set than Warm2. However I couldn't decide between gamma set at 2.4 or 2.2 to go with it.

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I just reached 100 hours, and D-Nice's ST60 settings also looks good on my set. They reasonably correct the greenish hue.
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

I just think then if ur color is lil on the red side warm 2 can be lil to mutch, and for the one who have ther color accurate at perfection will find warm2 is the best. So for that reason the best its pay for isf calibration and u will be sure look at ur panel in the best way and use it at 100%.

I am getting there. I may however invest in an i1Pro 2 spectrometer and i1D3 colorimeter combo and start calibrating my displays. Haven't decided yet, and I am still reading on how accurate the combo can be.
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

check this and tell me what u think about that;


http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/meters/calman-5-enthusiast-with-i1-display-oem-bundle.html

If I want to get both i1Pro 2 and i1D3, that bundle actually will be more expensive($1,595). There is a better approach:

http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/meters/oem-i1display.html

http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/calman5-bundles/calman-5-enthusiast-with-i1-pro-ii-bundle.html

Subtotal: $1,350
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Originally Posted by skTVuser1 View Post

yes, was sold as new. I have the receipt that says it. i have half a mind to report them to BBB. No dont want more discount...Trust is gone, they were better then Best Buy by $200 or so, i would rather spend that money now than trust this other place. Unbelievable !

Where did you buy it?

Have you called the retailer to explain to them what happened? If so, how did they handle it?
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Totally understandable. Goes to show that as much as we like trying to shop around, sometimes the big corporations are a bit more reliable. As it is, if you return it you most certainly should file a complaint with the BBB after you've returned the item since they notify the company. The BBB has no real enforcement powers or authority so not much would come of it unfortunately but it would give you some peace of mind I suppose. I would employ online sources (Yelp, etc.) to document the complaint as well. A simple mistake is forgivable but selling a returned or floor demo item as new is just outright fraud.

There are plenty of ways this could have happened. Jumping right to intentionally defrauding a customer is a little extreme. Clearly, the product box outwardly appeared to be new. Customers return items all the time and tell stores that they never opened the box. A store should never trust this, of course. But if this was the case, they'd only be guilty of ineptitude. Someone may also have just grabbed the unit unknowingly from the warehouse, thinking it was new. This is also merely ineptitude. This type of thing happens. It's likely not an intentional attempt to deceive.
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WOW but verry expensive , so whats better with this one ? the meter ? the software its better or still the same ? coz its X2 the price of the one i show u

I have been reading that for a good calibration you need both spectrometer and colorimeter. Colorimeters need to be profiled with spectrometer before the job. You can use spectrometer only, but then they are not as accurate as colorimeter for low light situation. The best option, is to have both. Your post only has the colorimeter bundle, so if you add the spectrometer ($959 extra) to it, it is actually more expensive than the one I have in mind.
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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon View Post

IWaiting to get to about 300-400 hours before going to a ISF calibrator. Since I got my set at Best Buy and am a silver member, anyone have their set calibrated by them? I have used ISF Calibrator in the past and results were amazing, so not sure how good these BB guys are at calibrating and as a silver member it is free.
If you use the "customer" link in the signature area at the bottom of my post, you can read customer reactions to BB calibrations by going to the top of the second post.

I prefer professional calibrators with a good reputation here at AVS. Once in a great while someones expectations aren't met, but over all they have a great track record.
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A free calibration has no penalty - there is nothing to lose. It is going to be better than nothing and will be as good as the individual involved and the instruments involved. I will say that in my experience, Best Buy is making a concentrated effort to be very good at this - their design centers (not Magnolia centers, but dedicated design centers) are impressive and the employees incredibly knowledgeable (and paid accordingly). They are hiring quality people for home theater in particular. The good news is that these calibrations are based largely on the tools and instruments involved - it will help that the person is knowledgeable, has good discretion, experience, and a good eye - but I'd argue those qualities are less important than the tools and your own personal satisfaction. Go for it!
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Let them do it. Bb has very many happy customers on their résumé.
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Let them do it. Bb has very many happy customers on their résumé.

Not for calibrations. Buying a TV yes. You get what you pay for and BB limits what they can do in regards to calibration - both # of modes calibrated and time spent doing it. I lot of us on this forum who enjoy that perk as Silver Reward members choose to not take advantage of it for a reason.
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

Not for calibrations. Buying a TV yes. You get what you pay for and BB limits what they can do in regards to calibration - both # of modes calibrated and time spent doing it. I lot of us on this forum who enjoy that perk as Silver Reward members choose to not take advantage of it for a reason.

I understand they may do a bad job, but since ZT controls are all in the normal menus, and you can easily set back your set to the factory setting, I don't see any reason why not to get it since it is free. The guy finishes the job and gives you the charts, you view the charts and possibly post it here for peer review, and at the end, if you didn't like the result you can always erase everything with a factory reset and go for a pro. It's quite simple, and honestly this is the only benefit of Premium Silver that is worth anything.
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Originally Posted by Lost! View Post

I understand they may do a bad job, but since ZT controls are all in the normal menus, and you can easily set back your set to the factory setting, I don't see any reason why not to get it since it is free. The guy finishes the job and gives you the charts, you view the charts and possibly post it here for peer review, and at the end, if you didn't like the result you can always erase everything with a factory reset and go for a pro. It's quite simple, and honestly this is the only benefit of Premium Silver that is worth anything.
Cant argue with that. Just make sure they dont go into the service menu as one poster reported they did.
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Originally Posted by Lost! View Post

I understand they may do a bad job, but since ZT controls are all in the normal menus, and you can easily set back your set to the factory setting, I don't see any reason why not to get it since it is free. The guy finishes the job and gives you the charts, you view the charts and possibly post it here for peer review, and at the end, if you didn't like the result you can always erase everything with a factory reset and go for a pro. It's quite simple, and honestly this is the only benefit of Premium Silver that is worth anything.
I've heard reports of BB calibrators being in and out in 30 minutes, where he only calibrated grayscale. Sounds like a waste of time to me. But if you have time to waste then you're right, it's worth a shot.
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WOW but verry expensive , so whats better with this one ? the meter ? the software its better or still the same ? coz its X2 the price of the one i show u
I know chads new meter was like 12,000. eek.gif
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I really want to get my tv professionally calibrated. I have about 210 hrs on it so far. Right now it has been replaying The Lion King for the last 12 hours I'm at work currently. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

You better replay slide bar d-nice like that green,blue,red and grey scale will slideshow and do better job, all color and grey scale will burn identicly.

There is no documented evidence that breaking in with slides does a better job than breaking in with varied content. The slides are expressly for the purpose of applying Dnice's setting nothing more is intended. They do not mitigate IR or do a superior job of prepping a panel for calibration.
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

Hmmm so how repeat same movie can do a similar job if a part of the screen never recive a red signal and another part never recive a green one, i mean with normal conten all is anoym and u cant control it, that logicaly undertsanble.

If you vary content the net effect is the same, what happens after the first couple hundred hours ? Are you going to run slides continously ? Even if your theory were true the phosphers would age unevenly after that, no one buys a set to only watch slides right ?
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

You better replay slide bar d-nice like that green,blue,red and grey scale will slideshow and do better job, all color and grey scale will burn identicly.

Well I also have Beauty and the Beast and Finding Nemo and UP also playing on rotation on it also. I switch them out daily.

Maybe I will download the slides this evening and try them.
Edited by JackDVD78 - 8/22/13 at 9:53am
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Plasma has come a far way from the earlier days. I think a lot of information being discussed at times is a combination of myth, outdated information, and superstition. Sometimes there is just a bad Plasma made - that happens with any product. Also, it probably doesn't help that some pro-calibrators and people who paid for pro services are happily flaming those flames for reasons that may not always be scientific.
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Originally Posted by kaffeen View Post

Plasma has come a far way from the earlier days. I think a lot of information being discussed at times is a combination of myth, outdated information, and superstition. Sometimes there is just a bad Plasma made - that happens with any product. Also, it probably doesn't help that some pro-calibrators and people who paid for pro services are happily flaming those flames for reasons that may not always be scientific.

I'd at precaution to that. Better be 100% certain than 99% optimistic.
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