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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

This is have nothing to do with the company card but learn to use it to get the best picture quality and its more with external program setting then the card itself,
like media player classic home cinema and power dvd for 3D.

It has to do with the drivers. I had nothing but problems with CCC, which is why i switched.
post #2972 of 11399
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Originally Posted by jnzz001 View Post

Thanks for all help so far, Chad B seems to be in OH but will try to find sb local or see how to contact him.
He also does most areas east of the Mississippi, other specific areas west as well.
post #2973 of 11399
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Originally Posted by togatx View Post

Do you get audible humming from the 2 fans on the back of your Panasonic Plasma? I bought 65" TC-P65ZT60 (65") 3 weeks ago (Aug 9th) . You can hear the fans 15' away where I sit on my couch up to a volume of around 15 on the TV. The TV is on a console currently around 2-3 feet from wall (with hard wood floors) waiting for Side tiers and Bridge cabinets to be delivered tomorrow. When there is silent moment in the movies it is clearly audible. Two nights ago the TV was off for almost 2 hours yet when I walked into the room to turn the lights off to go to bed I could hear the fans STILL on 20' away in a quiet house.. Im told there is a Panasonic patch that fixes a defect at the base of the fans that are causing the humming noise and cuts out most of the noise but I am getting the run around from Panasonic. Great picture but the noise is very distracting. The Best Buy 1-800 guy told me I should just get a SONY or Samsung in a comparable or possibly even 70". So I have a week to decide if I want to switch as per Best Buys return policy. When I called Panasonic they went through a checklist and told me I would be contacted with 24-48 hours for a technician to schedule a visit . When I got a call 24 hours later thinking it was a call to set up a specific time to fix the problem the new Panasonic guy repeated the same checklist almost verbatim and then said the TV meet s design specs. He had me turn the TV to 50% Max volume asking if I could hear the humming and acted perturbed when I told him of course you cant hear it then as I could not even hear him on the phone without turning the volume down. (Not hooked into speaker yet). I was told the first Panasonic rep had not recorded/notated our conversation even though I asked him 3 times to do so before giving me a case number.. I then asked to speak to supervisor and waited for 10 minutes on the phone and the rep came back and said the supervisor was not available but he would call back tomorrow. Its 4 days now and no return call from Panasonic. With it being Labor Day and all I will cut some slack but will insist on something done in next couple day or return the TV to Best Buy.

The Best Buy Manager said he has a friend who is a Panasonic rep who he will check with to see if they can come to my house in the next few days. I will know by Wednesday Sept 4 if they follow up

The picture quality is great. The 1-800 BestBuy guy said Panasonic made two different version of the ZT60 and the one I have is most likely the newer version with louder fans to address overheating
issues of the first release

Also do the Panasonic Plasmas run warmer than the SONY/Samsung LEDs?

I bought MartinLogan Motion 40s with an upgraded Motion 30 center channel and have a Pioneer Elite SX70 A/V receiver. Will add one or two subwoofers in a month or so and am thinking about maybe one Martinlogan700s that are wireless.. Will research than in the next few weeks and Im told the subwoofer dont need to be the same brand I also paid $50 extra per speaker on the ML40s and 30 and got the Cherry finish which is gorgeous

I opened my case a month ago and still have not heard back from Panasonic. The bottom line is we don't know if Panasonic is going to address this. My suggestion is invest a few hours and make the silencer kit yourself. It killed the noise for me. Look at my older posts for more info.

Yes, all plasmas run significantly warmer than LED/LCD sets. So if you buy an LED, it will run cool.
Subwoofer does not have to brand match anything else. Mine is Yamaha and my speakers are Polk, the receiver is Onkyo. It all depends what kinda performance you seek. You get what you pay for...
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

hi mrs. cleveland plasma, i want ask you if you try the DarbeeVision Darblet with the ZT60 and if it can do good job on that screen ?

I would also suggest you post your question here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

If you read the thread dedicated to those devices you can decide for yourself. Personally I am not a fan of image processing, but I am older and old school smile.gif
post #2976 of 11399
Mine is a jet - getting replaced it on 9-9-13 - I called Panasonic upon receipt of new TV and they would come to fix it within 6days - but they ask me to replace it with ABT first - if to no avail then call them and they will send a tech after ordering parts.
I don't see a problem there. Will still make it a while under 60 days.
You have to realize it's harder and harder to buy anything of great quality these days. There's morons around every corner... The technology is moving ahead so PQ gets better after all, but quality and costs go down nevertheless..
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

thanks, so after saw pic i dont want use this iam old too smile.gif

You mean you don't like the effect, or you think it is negligible for the price?

Just wanted to know which one you meant. I love the Darblet!
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I have about 10 hours on my 65ZT60, and all I can say is WOW. I have been using Mits DLP 73's for a few years, and went through 2 of the Sharp 80" LED's through BB, and both had cloudy screens and stuttering.

After reading many reviews of this set and Chad B mentioning it was his favorite panel, I decided to exchange the 2nd defective Sharp for this unit, even though I will have to get used to the smaller screen size, seeing that my primary sitting position is about 18' away.

The fans on my unit(after 10 hours of use) are dead quiet. I know they are running, as they are blowing heat out, but in a dead silent room, I put my ear right up to them and hear the slightest whirring sound, but that's it..I hope that does not change. There is also no vertical line on the right side on a grey screen either.

I am using the c-net settings right now. just amazing....colors pop and skin tones are the most realistic I have ever seen. dark scenes on Blu-Ray look like someone dumped an ink well onto the screen. whites are so white, they stand out on the screen-not something I have ever noticed on a tv before.

granted, this is a short time on the set, but I am over the moon with what I am seeing.

going to start running the slides tomorrow during times when we are not watching content....
post #2981 of 11399
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Originally Posted by Z06_Pilot View Post

I have about 10 hours on my 65ZT60, and all I can say is WOW. I have been using Mits DLP 73's for a few years, and went through 2 of the Sharp 80" LED's through BB, and both had cloudy screens and stuttering.

After reading many reviews of this set and Chad B mentioning it was his favorite panel, I decided to exchange the 2nd defective Sharp for this unit, even though I will have to get used to the smaller screen size, seeing that my primary sitting position is about 18' away.

The fans on my unit(after 10 hours of use) are dead quiet. I know they are running, as they are blowing heat out, but in a dead silent room, I put my ear right up to them and hear the slightest whirring sound, but that's it..I hope that does not change. There is also no vertical line on the right side on a grey screen either.

I am using the c-net settings right now. just amazing....colors pop and skin tones are the most realistic I have ever seen. dark scenes on Blu-Ray look like someone dumped an ink well onto the screen. whites are so white, they stand out on the screen-not something I have ever noticed on a tv before.

granted, this is a short time on the set, but I am over the moon with what I am seeing.

going to start running the slides tomorrow during times when we are not watching content....

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What do you mean by c-net settings?
post #2982 of 11399
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Originally Posted by Z06_Pilot View Post

I have about 10 hours on my 65ZT60, and all I can say is WOW. I have been using Mits DLP 73's for a few years, and went through 2 of the Sharp 80" LED's through BB, and both had cloudy screens and stuttering.

After reading many reviews of this set and Chad B mentioning it was his favorite panel, I decided to exchange the 2nd defective Sharp for this unit, even though I will have to get used to the smaller screen size, seeing that my primary sitting position is about 18' away.

The fans on my unit(after 10 hours of use) are dead quiet. I know they are running, as they are blowing heat out, but in a dead silent room, I put my ear right up to them and hear the slightest whirring sound, but that's it..I hope that does not change. There is also no vertical line on the right side on a grey screen either.

I am using the c-net settings right now. just amazing....colors pop and skin tones are the most realistic I have ever seen. dark scenes on Blu-Ray look like someone dumped an ink well onto the screen. whites are so white, they stand out on the screen-not something I have ever noticed on a tv before.

granted, this is a short time on the set, but I am over the moon with what I am seeing.

going to start running the slides tomorrow during times when we are not watching content....

Welcome to the world of the ZT60. I think you made a good choice. Can't say i am a big fan of the non - Elite Sharp panels, so this set will definitely be an improvement......Except for size of course!
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Originally Posted by Z06_Pilot View Post

I have about 10 hours on my 65ZT60, and all I can say is WOW. I have been using Mits DLP 73's for a few years, and went through 2 of the Sharp 80" LED's through BB, and both had cloudy screens and stuttering.

After reading many reviews of this set and Chad B mentioning it was his favorite panel, I decided to exchange the 2nd defective Sharp for this unit, even though I will have to get used to the smaller screen size, seeing that my primary sitting position is about 18' away.

The fans on my unit(after 10 hours of use) are dead quiet. I know they are running, as they are blowing heat out, but in a dead silent room, I put my ear right up to them and hear the slightest whirring sound, but that's it..I hope that does not change. There is also no vertical line on the right side on a grey screen either.

I am using the c-net settings right now. just amazing....colors pop and skin tones are the most realistic I have ever seen. dark scenes on Blu-Ray look like someone dumped an ink well onto the screen. whites are so white, they stand out on the screen-not something I have ever noticed on a tv before.

granted, this is a short time on the set, but I am over the moon with what I am seeing.

going to start running the slides tomorrow during times when we are not watching content....
Congrats on your purchase!
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So, I tried Sammie's settings - they are quite good, but ultimately (and for my panel) extremely similar to the CNET settings in final video picture quality. They are somewhat darker than the CNET settings. I've been using Sammie's settings as a "night" mode and CNET for a "day" mode. Both are very good and I don't think anyone can go wrong with either.
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

Coz from the pic i saw its like thats add some contrast and enhance brightness but from less shadows details, iam right ? do you have it with the ZT ?

Its perceived improvement is in overall clarity and depth. As most people put it, it's like it "removes the haze" from your screen. It doesn't crush blacks or anything at all.

I have a Samsung D7000 and a Samsung F8500, not the ZT60. However, I have seen it on a Panasonic plasma, on an LCD, on a projector screen, and hey, on my computer monitor!

The pics you saw might have been from someone taking a picture with their camera. I have actual screen captures if you want to see what it does so you can A/B no effect versus Darbee effect. Here are some from the movie Drive (where, at HD 50%, is probably the recommended "standard" for most people who own this device):

1) A | B
2) A | B
3) A | B
4) A | B
5) A | B
6) A | B
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Getting way off topic but after looking at the comparison shots with/without the Darbee I would think it would be easy to get the same effect by turning the sharpness setting on my Oppo to +1 or +2. Slight enhancement, but again I think a good receiver/blu-ray player with a quality video chip can do the same thing and save you $300 assuming you like the effect the added sharpness has on the picture. Thanks for the photos - high quality and interesting to compare. Given what I have read and seen regarding the 8500 I am surprised you want the picture it puts out by default to be any sharper than it already is. Based on my own experience with the 8500 it definitely looks as if Samsung is apply some type of processing to the image already in an attempt to make it appear sharper. I assumed it was a strategy they adopted for the year - brighter/sharper - to help capture the attention of those walking into a big box store. That's not a shot at the 8500, hold it in high regard, just a comment on a possible Samsung strategy.
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Originally Posted by Mixdoctor View Post

Welcome to the world of the ZT60. I think you made a good choice. Can't say i am a big fan of the non - Elite Sharp panels, so this set will definitely be an improvement......Except for size of course!
That is it in a nut shell. The PQ gain and a loss of 5" is well worth the swap.
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Originally Posted by togatx View Post

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What do you mean by c-net settings?

David Katzmaier from C-net posted the settings he used when he reviewed the ZT60:

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-593204/panasonic-tc-p60zt60-picture-settings/

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-p60zt60/4505-6482_7-35567247.html
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

Iam in canada and i find a darbee for 319.00, someone have a better price then this and where, if i want try it ?

Best you start using the DarbeeVision Darblet thread for this, but for what it's worth, I bought two of them (one last August, and one last month) for $269 and $259 respectively (one from a link on here, and one from Solid Signal). Granted, I am in the U.S.
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Hometheater.com's reviewed the ZT60
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It’s perhaps important to note that during this comparison, our sample of the Panasonic TC-65ZT60 had barely 150 hours on its clock, while the Pioneer Kuro PRO-141FD had four years of almost daily use behind it. With that considered, however, the bottom line is that this new Panasonic flagship can take a direct comparison to a Pioneer Kuro and come out, if not on top, at least very much on equal footing.
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Conclusions: 4K may be calling your name, but you have to consider the current dearth of true 4K sources and the probable need for a much bigger and more expensive screen to fully appreciate its benefits. 4K is also likely to be exclusively LCD, with that technology’s inherent weaknesses, for the foreseeable future. OLED is just coming to market, but with no guarantees about when we might see it at large screen sizes or affordable prices. But the Panasonic TC-P65ZT60 is here now, and while it isn't exactly a bargain-basement item, I can’t think of any currently available set of its size likely to produce a better picture on a 2K source. Absolutely recommended!
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Great review thanks for posting
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Hey Guys,

I was at 200 hours, and I just received a "free" GS BB calibration! I know it is not like a pro calibration, but I was curious and I went through it. Besides, I don't have 300 hours yet, so what's the loss.

The GS guy was nice, and he had ISF certification. He agreed that on ZT there is no need to go into service menu. He had the Sencore CP6000 ColorPro V Color Analyzer, Calman v4, and Sencore signal generator. He calibrated only one mode: "cinema." He chose "smpte" color space instead of "rec709" or "native," which I found odd, but I just wanted the experience so I went with the flow. He also put the Gamma at 2.0, but even after I explained that it needs to be 2.4 on ZT, he didn't listen and just argued that if it is the wrong setting the software will point it out!

The color looks good, and I have attached the charts. However because of Gamma, the picture is washed out. I think at the end he did forget to calibrate the 10-points Gamma! Anyways, I put D-Nice's ST60 settings' Gamma values, and it sure looks better.

If you have the time, and you can enforce them not to go to service menu, they are not that bad. For one, you will definitely more appreciate the pro-calibration you'll have soon.

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Edited by Lost! - 9/5/13 at 9:32am
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For free with your rewards points I hope smile.gif The gamma does look funky you are probably at 1.8 or something like that
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

For free with your rewards points I hope smile.gif The gamma does look funky you are probably at 1.8 or something like that

Of course it was free! It is insane paying for such a service! I updated my post to reflect this! smile.gif

Yes, Gamma is off! I emailed him after he left. I haven't got an answer yet smile.gif

Edit:

The "calibrator" emailed back that I should change the gamma from 2.0 to 2.2 or 2.4 which one is better. Interestingly he didn't mention the gamma curve. smile.gif
Edited by Lost! - 9/5/13 at 10:46am
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Thanks for sharing - comparing this to some of the other pro calibration charts posted for the ZT confirms you get what you pay for, but for free and a little investment of time I can see why you were curious. Gamma at 2.0 makes no sense - but you tried. I guess that's where the pro aspect comes in because I know when DNice worked on both my panels he made numerous adjustments to what the software "pointed out." I am sure the is just following how they are told to operate by corporate.
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You mean a BB cal right ? You experienced a pretty typical BB cal actually, older equipment that is not very accurate for certain aspects of calibration. lack of knowledge about Plasma characteristics and advanced picture controls and their time limitations which doesn't give them sufficient time to tune up a magnificent beast like yours. A true professional calibration is quite different both in result and the experience in general
Edited by chunon - 9/5/13 at 9:43am
post #3000 of 11399
The BB calibration sounds like a learning experience but ultimately a waste of time.
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