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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

Panny just announced they are ending production in December and will have totally wound down plasma business by March. This was posted today on flatpanelsHD.com. Get one while you can!

You may want to get one sooner than that...per D-Nice's comment during the "Value Electronics Shootout", Pioneer quality control suffered on the last batch of their plasmas, in the final few months/weeks of production. As always, YMMV.
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Dammit, Jim! Thought I had finally found the perfect TV, but that fan noise issue is a deal killer. I think I will have to go with the Samsung F8000 or the Sony 900A.

Descriptions of the ZT60's picture sound fantastic (I've never owned a plasma) but remembering a loud Xbox 360 makes me realize my wife would never go for it--nor would I.

Is this typical of plasmas?
post #3663 of 11451
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Originally Posted by Beermaestro View Post

Dammit, Jim! Thought I had finally found the perfect TV, but that fan noise issue is a deal killer. I think I will have to go with the Samsung F8000 or the Sony 900A.

Descriptions of the ZT60's picture sound fantastic (I've never owned a plasma) but remembering a loud Xbox 360 makes me realize my wife would never go for it--nor would I.

Is this typical of plasmas?
Panasonic fixed this issue with change implemented in production. If the TV you get was manufactured recently (I can't remember the exact date - maybe July - but search the forums) it shouldn't have any fan noise issues.
post #3664 of 11451
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Panasonic fixed this issue with change implemented in production. If the TV you get was manufactured recently (I can't remember the exact date - maybe July - but search the forums) it shouldn't have any fan noise issues.
Not necessarily. Panasonic created a "fix" to address the fan noise issue but in the experience of those who have had the fix implemented via service call, it doesn't fix the noise so much as diminish it. So it's the same problem, just less severe. However, many people weren't bothered by the fan noise to begin with, so this may be an academic point.
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Originally Posted by oreb View Post

I get IR constantly. It goes away after a few seconds. The longest I've noticed it for was between 1-2 minutes and it disappeared after a moving image. I noticed it happens most when I first turn the panel on but this is probably because I have static images from all my devices. I don't watch much TV spend 90% of my time watching movies. I was worried about IR but this isn't bad. Coming from LED motion is spectacular. No blur and judder is very minimal. Recently watched The Purge and Only God Forgives, GREAT films to show off the blacks on your ZT. Friend had The Purge on her Sharp LED. The same scenes which had so much detail and depth on the ZT were completely black on the LED.

I am still wondering if they are manufacturing this TV. I haven't seen anyone say they have an August panel. The latest month I heard of was July, that's what my panel is (# 10,000 something). Anyone have an August or later panel?

Mine is a July build too. No IR problems here either. I rarely see any and if I do it's gone very quickly. This set compares very well to my 6020 Elite board upgraded and ChadB calibrated Kuro. Chad B calibrated it a couple weeks ago at 270 hours and improved upon the THX Cinema mode. He said it calibrated even closer to perfection than my Kuro. Funny thing though...as the set ages (now at about 320 hours) the THX mode looks much closer to correct than when the set was new. The first 200 hours or so THX was not very good. The fans are a bit noisy but I hate to have some idiot come and take my set apart to do a fix that may not help things all that much. I think I can live with the noise. This is a great set and it will be a while (I'd guess 2-5 years) before anything better is available at anything close to the price we paid for these.
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

I will not give to anybody unscrew my panel and play with it till my ZT not broke, nobody will open my panel, for me it sound for more future problem right....
It's a machine, not a person. Besides, someone was in there messing aroud before they closed it up. I would understand the anxiety if the fix involved switching out electronics or soldering boards but the install process is literally just removing a bunch of screws, unplugging 2 fans, adhering foam strips to sheet metal and then reversing the process. I was watching the guy who did mine the whole time and he did a better job than I probably would have. YMMV of course but the worst that could happen is to have a screw driver miss a screw and scratch the back of your panel. If the sound doesn't bother you then don't get the fix, but it's not fair to act like TV repair guys are a bunch of incompetent morons.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^ frown.giffrown.gif What a sad day, here is the link >>>>> http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1383210619

-- I hope that Samsung does NOT stop production smile.gif

that would be doubtful

they will now "OWN" both the high end Plasma and high end LED market

They also havent lowered their prices to most recent decrease of the ZT

This is the first I have ever seen a Samsung be more than the Panasonic competitive model


Warren
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

they will now "OWN" both the high end Plasma and high end LED market
And Samsung moves toward a monopoly. And as well all know, when a company has a monopoly it raises/lowers...anyone?...raises prices.
Edited by repete66211 - 10/31/13 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by Beermaestro View Post

Dammit, Jim! Thought I had finally found the perfect TV, but that fan noise issue is a deal killer. I think I will have to go with the Samsung F8000 or the Sony 900A.

Descriptions of the ZT60's picture sound fantastic (I've never owned a plasma) but remembering a loud Xbox 360 makes me realize my wife would never go for it--nor would I.

Is this typical of plasmas?

My xbox 360 is WAY more noisy than my ZT. 'Course it is one of the older 360s, not the newer slim model.
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Originally Posted by Beermaestro View Post

Dammit, Jim! Thought I had finally found the perfect TV, but that fan noise issue is a deal killer. I think I will have to go with the Samsung F8000 or the Sony 900A.

Descriptions of the ZT60's picture sound fantastic (I've never owned a plasma) but remembering a loud Xbox 360 makes me realize my wife would never go for it--nor would I.

Is this typical of plasmas?

Just received my 65" ZT60 today from Panasonic directly. It has an October 2013 build date and is as quiet as the 50" ST60 that it replaced. My Xbox 360 on the other hand... that thing is loud! The plasmas are so much quieter than my 360 that it is like comparing apples to avocados.
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My post-fix ZT60 is about as loud as my PS3 slim.
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My current firmware version is 2.832. The TV tells me the latest version is 2.864. Anyone know what the changes are? I don't use any of the apps, so I would only update if it made PQ better (like say, motion improvement for 96Hz or something similar). Also, someone posted his fan noise got worse after an update, so don't want to unless I know there is a benefit. (BTW, I think that poster was in the VT60 thread).

Any info on the latest firmware would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by sooke View Post

My current firmware version is 2.832. The TV tells me the latest version is 2.864. Anyone know what the changes are? I don't use any of the apps, so I would only update if it made PQ better (like say, motion improvement for 96Hz or something similar). Also, someone posted his fan noise got worse after an update, so don't want to unless I know there is a benefit. (BTW, I think that poster was in the VT60 thread).

Any info on the latest firmware would be appreciated.
I can't remember specifics but as I recall it wasn't anything critical and had something to do with the apps. I also don't believe it affected fan noise at all.
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

that would be doubtful

they will now "OWN" both the high end Plasma and high end LED market
Warren
Well we got this new 55" LG OLED unboxed and running. First impression, just as good as a ZT, I actually think it is better......... >>>>> Click Here
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Edited by changboy - 12/29/13 at 8:52pm
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^^^^ Thanks changeboy.

Where did you get the information? Is there a link on the panasonic website?
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Well we got this new 55" LG OLED unboxed and running. First impression, just as good as a ZT, I actually think it is better......... >>>>> Click Here

I hope it's a lot better for that kind of money. smile.gif

That curved screen idea is just so moronic. I was looking at it while at Magnolia the other day and just unwatchable/distracting from any kind of off-axis view.
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Panasonic concedes plasma TV defeat, ends production

After the heartbreak of losing Pioneer's excellent Kuro line, Panasonic's plasma displays were the last bastion of hope for plasma TV enthusiasts, but now even they are going extinct. Panasonic today confirmed a Reuters report from earlier this month that it is exiting the plasma TV market with almost immediate effect — production of new units will end in December and all related operations will be wrapped by March next year. Two of Panasonic's three factories have already stopped building new units and the third will join them in about a month's time. The Verge reported this past April that the company had ceased all future plasma display development.

Panasonic made a strong effort to push its plasma TVs this year — coming to CES in January with a fully refreshed home theater lineup — however the economics of plasma display production just haven't worked out for the company. Though consumer demand is apparently still firm, Panasonic says that "due to rapid, drastic changes in the business environment" and price pressure from more affordable LCD TVs, the unhappy decision had to be made. That leaves HD enthusiasts with a few months to save up the money to buy a ZT60, the last in a proud line of beautiful TVs.

As for the future, a Panasonic Display vice president told The Verge in April that plasma research and development efforts would likely be diverted to OLED. The company sees televisions using the technology as "one of the key future products," and it is working to insure that it can make affordable OLED TVs that still leave room for profit before putting any up for sale. If and when that day comes, sticklers for the picture quality offered by plasmas should be more than happy with OLEDs.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5050038/panasonic-plasma-tv-production-end
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Thats old news. There are 2 or 3 threads already dedicated to just that subject.
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confirmed a Reuters report from earlier this month
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Actually my original post predates those threads

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1474480/official-zt60-owners-thread/3450#post_23817672


This is now confirmed... It was not confirmed officially till now

But thank you.
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Hey, what do you guys do with your boxes? Keep them incase you ever have to move? Kind of a pain to store the big thing.

Do movers typically have boxes for moving flat panels so I can get rid of mine?
post #3687 of 11451
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Originally Posted by sooke View Post

Hey, what do you guys do with your boxes? Keep them incase you ever have to move? Kind of a pain to store the big thing.

Do movers typically have boxes for moving flat panels so I can get rid of mine?
I recently moved and required the help of a friend & his SUV to move my old 50" Samsung. I secured it with pillows & blankets and rode in the back to try to keep it steady. It wiggled and wobbled with every bump and turn. I'm not going through that with my 65" ZT60, which wouldn't fit upright in any vehicle anyway, so I kept the box. It's huge so the wife is none too pleased with it in the basement, but it's the only way it'll get from A to B safely. I had a friend who hired movers to move her across country and they actually built a wooden crate specifically for her TV.
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Originally Posted by WingFat View Post

Actually my original post predates those threads

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1474480/official-zt60-owners-thread/3450#post_23817672


This is now confirmed... It was not confirmed officially till now

But thank you.
Actually it was confirmed yesterday. The post at the top of this page beat you to it.
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^Too bad, so sad. tongue.gif
post #3690 of 11451
Its a real drag, 1-2 more years is about all we needed until OLED was in full force.
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