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post #4021 of 11410
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

One thing that both the VT and ZT do very well is with shadow detail. My point regarding the calibration was to work on the settings yourself, but you know the drill. A lot of us didn't go with THX Cinema or the other out-of-box modes. I recommend enabling the Pro modes and using one of those modes for your pre pro calibration. If you planned adjusting the settings, why come on the thread and make the display sound inferior in regards to shadow detail? Light output can be improved upon as well, it will definitely do what is required by your calibrator for light output. My calibrated display is set at the same light output level that the Kuro it replaced was calibrated to. DNice did both.

I think I will try that until I do get it calibrated. I know that cnet posted calibration settings. Are there any other recommended settings?

How do you enable pro modes? Any particular one?

Btw, I'm not making anything sound inferior. I'm comparing out of box to out of box. I think it is fair to say that most consumers open the box, hook up a display and watch. They don't go into all of the fine tuning that people do on the forum.

With regards to the brightness issue, are you saying this is the first you heard of it? Read the reviews. They say the set is excellent and maybe the best display out, but it is dim compared to others.

I did speak with DeWayne (D Nice) and he will be calibrating my set once it is broken in.

Ken
post #4022 of 11410
The reviews just stated that both the ST60 and VT60 (in that order) were more capable as far as "max" light output. The ZT actually has a superior contrast ratio, I believe we had a rather in depth discussion on contrast ratios a few weeks on this thread or another. I don't think any pro review I read referred to it as being dim or brightness being an issue. The display is more than capable when compared to any others ex the 8500, but who cares when all of that extra output isn't needed for reference or most viewing environments. The filter is the reason for the slightly lower max light output, but it more than makes up for that when viewing the display in a brighter environment. i don't think anyone will argue the ZT filter is the best one on any display up to this point in time.

To enable the two pro modes (which most calibrators including DeWayne use for ISF Day and ISF Night modes) go to main menu, settings, enable pro modes. Remember both are exactly the same until you make changes to the settings. Personally I used one with some hybrid settings from a few published reviews until mine was calibrated. I would also suggest you try Sammie's settings - you should be able to find them in the review he published on AVS for the ZT a few months ago. They seem to be popular amongst fellow owners.

Let me know if you have trouble finding the pro modes. Steve
Edited by smurraybhm - 11/15/13 at 1:26pm
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Thanks, Steve.

I will try the cnet settings first since I have those. I assume that everything can be reset back to factory settings if I need to in case I screw something up?
Ken
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post #4026 of 11410
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

What is the measured brightness?

Remember I am a VT owner. Day is at 32ftL, Night at 28ftl and my 5020 was calibrated at 28ft if I remember correctly. I don't have the display in a bat cave either, windows/day light along the left side. Once my 5020 was calibrated I quickly saw what a properly calibrated display could deliver in regards to adequate brightness, blacks and detail. People just don't see (or know) what they are missing by leaving the displays in Vivid, etc. for the last two. I was also left with a Custom mode that is at 36ftL. Full disclosure I have been watching everything in Day mode, but when I see the Kuro's picture I really don't notice a difference in brightness.
post #4027 of 11410
I have a little over 600 hours on mine and I recently had it calibrated and the guy said that he was having a hard time getting consistent reads and that it was "all over the place". For a while my wife said that he didn't think he was going to be able to calibrate it. Then it hit me and I thought that it's probably the ambient light sensor making adjustments on the fly and causing the readings he was getting to vary. I sent her a text to tell her to let the guy know about the light sensor and to shut it off but he had already left. She called him and he admitted that he was not aware that this model had that feature or that it was on at the time of the calibration and recommended that if we have issues that we should just shut the feature off. I was planning on it after I had the set calibrated but does anyone who would know more on the subject know if having the ambient light sensor on at the time that it was being calibrated would effect the results of the calibration?

I honestly did not really notice any difference in the before and after results and he had even told my wife after he finished that there wouldn't be a very noticeable difference. I would expect that after having a $249 calibration that there would be at least a discernible difference in the color and contrast but I want to be sure before I call back and complain.
post #4028 of 11410
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

Remember I am a VT owner. Day is at 32ftL, Night at 28ftl and my 5020 was calibrated at 28ft if I remember correctly. I don't have the display in a bat cave either, windows/day light along the left side. Once my 5020 was calibrated I quickly saw what a properly calibrated display could deliver in regards to adequate brightness, blacks and detail. People just don't see (or know) what they are missing by leaving the displays in Vivid, etc. for the last two. I was also left with a Custom mode that is at 36ftL. Full disclosure I have been watching everything in Day mode, but when I see the Kuro's picture I really don't notice a difference in brightness.
Calibrated my ZT measures 30FL. Also in a less than ideal setting, I have yet to feel like it's not bright enough.
post #4029 of 11410
Thanks, "Repete".
Ken
Edited by ken6217 - 11/15/13 at 3:15pm
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I see the Panel brightness was set at Low. Is that the factory default? Is it safe to set to Medium during break-in?

Also if set to Medium under Pro Mode, does it stay at that brightness under the factory modes as well such as THX Cinema?

Thanks,
Ken
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Sammie2980's review of the ZT60, including settings

Do you know if the settings were done under "Professional"?

Thanks,
Ken
post #4034 of 11410
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post

Do you know if the settings were done under "Professional"?

Thanks,
Ken

Professional; according to Sammie himself.

I put Sammie2980's on Pro2; and ran S & V 3D on Pro 1. S & V 3D came the closest to reproducing Sammie2980's look in 3D for me.


Just got my hands on D-Nice 2D and 3D settings and will be giving those a spin shortly. wink.gif
Edited by REKing - 11/16/13 at 9:25am
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Thanks.
Ken
post #4036 of 11410
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

Remember I am a VT owner. Day is at 32ftL, Night at 28ftl and my 5020 was calibrated at 28ft if I remember correctly. I don't have the display in a bat cave either, windows/day light along the left side. Once my 5020 was calibrated I quickly saw what a properly calibrated display could deliver in regards to adequate brightness, blacks and detail. People just don't see (or know) what they are missing by leaving the displays in Vivid, etc. for the last two. I was also left with a Custom mode that is at 36ftL. Full disclosure I have been watching everything in Day mode, but when I see the Kuro's picture I really don't notice a difference in brightness.

28 ftl sounds a bit low for a Kuro--or was that your default "night" mode?. I thought the non-Elites could go much higher than that. My 111 has an ISF Day mode calibrated to about 51 ftl I believe.
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I've got mine mounted 27" off the floor, giving 6" clearance over the entertainment center.
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Finally!  I have now read every post in this thread (well skimmed more than a few, but at least I scrolled though them all).  I hate asking a question that's been answered before so I figured I'd better review everything.  It's been a long slog ... there ought to be some kind of medal!

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Hi guys,
I'm a first time plasma tv owner so please bear with me. I just bought my zt60 at bb and now it's halfway in the break-in period. My concern is when I stream Netflix movies and would want to change the pictures settings from the menu option on the remote it wouldn't respond. It would just blink once and that's it.
Is this common for all streamed content (locked picture settings)? Did I just bought a lemon unit?
Thanks guys!
post #4040 of 11410
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Originally Posted by borlayoqal78 View Post

I'm curious if others have chosen to wall mount their ZT60 and, if so, at what height did you choose? I've got a tilting wall mount for mine, but I'm going as low as possible. Is there an ideal height for a television this size? I've never had one this large before, so any suggestions/tips appreciatedre7LVi

Bottom of our 65ZT60 is 51" from the floor; 14" above the buffet, to accommodate Polk Vanishing Series in-wall center channel, with Polk L/R Vanishing. We wanted to take advantage of the functionality of the buffet while still accommodating in-wall speakers. The height is a bit on the high side, but it allows for multitasking on the laptop, lounging on the couch, and fully reclining in the leather recliner without having to adjust head position to see the T.V. The television is mounted on a Sanus Tilting Mount that is a little pointless considering the unlimited viewing angle afforded by the ZT - I would have used the same Samsung hanging mount we use in the bedroom, but already had the holes drilled for the Sanus

Regards,
post #4041 of 11410
I sure hope the repair guy can fix the fan and buzzing problems my set has because I just watched some tv in probably the absolute worst case conditions I am going to have in my house with the sun pouring in my front windows and was completely satisfied with the picture, vastly superior to my old tv.
post #4042 of 11410
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Originally Posted by elbobo19 View Post

Well I got my 65" in today, manufactured in June. It definitely has fan noise so I am going to have to have someone come out and look at that. I am running the Dnice slides right now, how much buzz is normal on the light colored ones because I am getting what I think is quite a bit.

edit - Yeah there is a lot of buzzing, I am in another room down the hall and I can still hear it when it hits the bright slides.

Sounds like my June built set. (Still procrastinating on the fan fix.)

Also still running in THX Cinema mode, about to give it a calibration disc calibration to see what difference it might make. (Using S&V 2d settings was too bright for me (also had more buzzing), I am sensitive to phosphor lag apparently, so the whites in particular set off the rainbows. Still see them some in THX Cinema mode, but mostly ignore it now.)

Buzzing, you will normally not hear it unless you have the picture brightness cranked up some, and the fans will typically hide it. (THX Cinema mode less buzzing that S&V 2d settings. S&V 3d settings are way cranked up, but I don't recall any buzzing, probably just haven't noticed it.)
Edited by fmalczewski - 11/16/13 at 8:48am
post #4043 of 11410
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

Professional; according to Sammie himself.

I put Sammie2980's on Pro2; and ran S & V 3D on Pro 1. S & V 3D came the closest to reproducing Sammie2980's look in 3D for me.


Just got my hands on D-Nice 2D and 3D settings and will be giving those a spin shortly. wink.gif
Are those published someplace where they can be shared?
post #4044 of 11410
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Originally Posted by John Schneider View Post

Are those published someplace where they can be shared?

D-Nice settings are posted on ControlCal: http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=939

It states: Link to this forum thread instead
Edited by REKing - 11/16/13 at 11:07am
post #4045 of 11410
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

D-Nice settings are posted on ControlCal, but they note to not share the link to that forum thread.
Thanks.

I need to figure this one out. "Professional" is not an available option, I have:

Vivid
Standard
Home Theater
THX Cinema
THX Bright Room
EBU
Cinema
Custom

as my Picture mode options. Am I in the wrong place?
post #4046 of 11410
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Originally Posted by John Schneider View Post

Thanks.

I need to figure this one out. "Professional" is not an available option, I have:

Vivid
Standard
Home Theater
THX Cinema
THX Bright Room
EBU
Cinema
Custom

as my Picture mode options. Am I in the wrong place?

Enable Pro mode in start-up!
post #4047 of 11410
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Originally Posted by REKing View Post

Enable Pro mode in start-up!
Yep - got it - Thanks turbe!
post #4048 of 11410
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Originally Posted by borlayoqal78 View Post

I'm curious if others have chosen to wall mount their ZT60 and, if so, at what height did you choose? I've got a tilting wall mount for mine, but I'm going as low as possible. Is there an ideal height for a television this size? I've never had one this large before, so any suggestions/tips appreciatedre7LVi

I've got mine mounted 24" off the floor, giving 7" clearance over the entertainment console. While the middle of the screen is located about eye height, I have to admit it looks a bit low on the wall. I'm undecided as to whether i'll leave it where it is, or raise it 6 inches. (6" is the distance between the mounting bolts, so that would allow me to reuse half of the drilled holes). Another option for me might be to put some form of long narrow painting above the TV to fill in the empty wall space.
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I put in the CNET settings and my wife and I both thought the picture looked very poor. I'll try Sammie's settings next.
Ken
post #4050 of 11410
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post

I put in the CNET settings and my wife and I both thought the picture looked very poor. I'll try Sammie's settings next.
Ken

The cnet settings are too dark for my taste. Sammie's settings were much brighter. I finally settled on Dnice's settings.
Those are the 3 I've tried.
J
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