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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

All correct above.

Yes, I tried both having the sub audio cable disconnected and playing with the ground switch on the sub at the same time.

The AVR receiver has a directv receiver, oppo bluray, and a network in connected.

The receiver is not in a metal rack or touching other equipment metal to metal.

Nothing else connected to the TV. Just HDMI 1 from AVR receiver.

Something must be traveling out the ZT's powercord and getting picked up by the power cord going to the sub.

I don't know what else it could be.

You say that the noise is “ a rolling type of hum, repeating every 20 seconds”. This does not sound like typical ground loop hum, which is normally constant at 60Hz. In retrospect, the most likely suspect may be the TV that is generating the noise as you suggest.

You said you have a Furman power conditioner, but did not provide the model number. From what I read, the cheaper models provide only surge protection, while the more expensive models incorporate noise filtering. However, I think these conditioners filter only the incoming power, so if you have both the TV and sub plugged in to the Furman outputs, they may not be getting any filtering between them whatsoever!

If all the simple fixes are exhausted and I am correct about the way the Furman conditioner works, then there are power line noise filters available that you could insert in the TV power line. Of course, they also vary in effectiveness depending upon price and the range of frequencies to be filtered.

Once you get to the bottom of this, please let us know the solution.
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Changboy, Whites look white and with good shading.Any comments on the detail in the dark picture? Thanks.
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Changboy, those look good. You should post in the Panasonic photo thread: www.avsforum.com/t/1475972/official-panasonic-st-gt-vt-zt60-pictures-thread (where there is a noticeable lack of ZT photos).
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A few days ago, I contacted Paul's TV about replacement of my ZT due to a dead pixel, fan noise, and banding. Paul's TV was very easy to deal with. They asked me to email them pictures of the issues, the set, and the packaging box. Today, I got email from them with shipment conformation. I asked them if it was possible to send me August or later ZT built, but I was told that they can not guarantee it.

After initiating the replacement last week, I was debating about replacing ZT with VT or even Samsung F8500. Yesterday, I went to Best Buy to do farther comparisons between the 3 sets. They had VT on top of ZT and F8500 directly to the left of VT. The room was surprisingly bright for Magnolia. I put both Panasonics into THX Cinema, put F8500 into Movie mode, and asked an employee to set all three sets to the same source(Best Buy loop).

VT's picture was close to ZT's for me. The blacks looked the same to me on both sets. ZT might looked a little blacker and punchier, but it might be just my conformation bias kicking in. However, I clearly saw increased reflections on VT in comparison to ZT. The increased reflections on VT is a deal breaker for me since I get some reflections even on my ZT during a day.

Samsung and ZT were very close. I was surprised by this considering all the talk about Samsung's brightness advantage, so I changed a picture setting on Samsung from Movie to Relax to bring out brightness advantage of Samsung. Samsung definitely looked brighter and slightly sharper in Relax setting, but it also looked unnatural to me. ZT has this film like quality in its picture, that I clearly prefer. I also do not like Samsung's stand. It makes it impossible to put the TV on my narrower stand and put my central speaker at the bottom of the TV.

After spending over an hour evaluating these displays, I decided to just exchange my ZT for another ZT. smile.gif
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Did you ever figure it out. Just got my ZT60 today and trying to run the slides but can not access the pixel orbiter - it is not an option to change - even from custom picture setting.
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I think you have to start the slide show and then hit menu and adjust.
post #4479 of 11453
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Sometimes cheap does equate to poor quality, but a simple tilting mount doesn't have much technology involved. It's just stamped steel so quality extends primarily to the thickness of the steel. Now, if someone were looking for a swiveling/telescoping mount I would be far more cautious as there are a lot more moving pieces involved. As for the Cheetah, I didn't mount my ZT--though I bought one large enough in case I want to some day--so I can't vouch for that application, but it did hold the weight of my not-so-svelte body as I swung from it, so I would do so without reservation.

I made the mistake of buying a lesser expensive mount from Amazon for my 65 inch ZT... Don't recall the model. After installing and hanging my TV I quickly removed it. It was really quite wobbly and I had little confidence in its ability to safely hold the TV over time. The mount was rated for the size and weight of the 65 but in my estimation the steel simply was not thick enough.

I ended up buying a Sanus mount for about 3 times as much but it was well worth the piece of mind.

Cheers
Steven
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Originally Posted by elbobo19 View Post

I'm in the same boat. I just spoke to Paul's and there are not taking the TV back since it was serviced, they are going to attempt to repair it again.

Pardon my language but WTF?????

The fix was done by a certified Panasonic repair person and it's a manufacturer recommended solution. There's absolutely no reason Paul's should not take the TV back and replace it if they are an authorized retailer. An authorized retailer will send a defective unit back to the manufacturer and request a replacement inventory.

Something smells here.

Cheers
Steven
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Originally Posted by mluder View Post

Pardon my language but WTF?????

The fix was done by a certified Panasonic repair person and it's a manufacturer recommended solution. There's absolutely no reason Paul's should not take the TV back and replace it if they are an authorized retailer. An authorized retailer will send a defective unit back to the manufacturer and request a replacement inventory.

Something smells here.

Cheers
Steven
Same thing happened with me. According to Paul's TV, it's THEIR policy not to take back TVs that have been repaired by an authorized Panasonic technician. I had the foam fix, but the buzzing is still there. The Panasonic technician ordered a replacement board to hopefully take care of the buzzing, but I'm not very optimistic. If that doesn't fix the problem, I'm probably going to take up the issue with Panasonic directly.

Paul's TV has been in contact with me and even followed up after the service visit, but they won't do an exchange.
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Originally Posted by vahighland View Post

Same thing happened with me. According to Paul's TV, it's THEIR policy not to take back TVs that have been repaired by an authorized Panasonic technician. I had the foam fix, but the buzzing is still there. The Panasonic technician ordered a replacement board to hopefully take care of the buzzing, but I'm not very optimistic. If that doesn't fix the problem, I'm probably going to take up the issue with Panasonic directly.

Paul's TV has been in contact with me and even followed up after the service visit, but they won't do an exchange.

So how does the retailer know it has been serviced? Do they check with Panasonic? Did the retailer record the S/N before shipping the unit?

I wonder if the reluctance to take it back has something to do with the responsibility shifting to the manufacturer now that you have taken advantage of the warranty.
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Originally Posted by mluder View Post

I made the mistake of buying a lesser expensive mount from Amazon for my 65 inch ZT... Don't recall the model. After installing and hanging my TV I quickly removed it. It was really quite wobbly and I had little confidence in its ability to safely hold the TV over time. The mount was rated for the size and weight of the 65 but in my estimation the steel simply was not thick enough.

I ended up buying a Sanus mount for about 3 times as much but it was well worth the piece of mind.

Cheers
Steven
If it were a telescoping mount I would agree, but with a static/tilt mount there's nothing to wobble. It either works or it falls out of the wall.
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

Anyone watch The Purge? Dithering was terrible on this one. I am not sure why it's so much more obvious on certain movies.

I did and looked crisp and clean. Did you watch off blu ray or streaming?
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Originally Posted by cappy1 View Post

You say that the noise is “ a rolling type of hum, repeating every 20 seconds”. This does not sound like typical ground loop hum, which is normally constant at 60Hz. In retrospect, the most likely suspect may be the TV that is generating the noise as you suggest.

You said you have a Furman power conditioner, but did not provide the model number. From what I read, the cheaper models provide only surge protection, while the more expensive models incorporate noise filtering. However, I think these conditioners filter only the incoming power, so if you have both the TV and sub plugged in to the Furman outputs, they may not be getting any filtering between them whatsoever!

If all the simple fixes are exhausted and I am correct about the way the Furman conditioner works, then there are power line noise filters available that you could insert in the TV power line. Of course, they also vary in effectiveness depending upon price and the range of frequencies to be filtered.

Once you get to the bottom of this, please let us know the solution.

The Furman is an Elite-15 Dm i.

I am going to have an electrician come and check my wiring. That's the only thing left.
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Originally Posted by oreb View Post

I did and looked crisp and clean. Did you watch off blu ray or streaming?

BD from the OPPO-105.
post #4487 of 11453
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Originally Posted by Terebi View Post

So how does the retailer know it has been serviced? Do they check with Panasonic? Did the retailer record the S/N before shipping the unit?

I wonder if the reluctance to take it back has something to do with the responsibility shifting to the manufacturer now that you have taken advantage of the warranty.

When you call panasonic for service they give you a case number and ask where you bought it from. I guess Pauls registered it for me because panasonic had my address on file when I called, I assume Pauls has the info on any service that happens.
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Edited by changboy - 12/29/13 at 9:23pm
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Amazon price drop - Panasonic TC-P65ZT60 65-Inch - Black Friday or the beginning of the dump?
Edited by WingFat - 11/27/13 at 4:00am
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

I post some pic at this place but my pic are small and i saw many peop have big pic so can you tell me how i can udate my pic.
Here example of the sizte i post,

I'm not sure, but I think that's a limitation of AVS Forum. You can try asking the biggest contributor how he does it, but an external site like image shack should be able to accommodate different sizes.

Yes if you look at the source of Urga's pics, he is hosting them at an external site. Try www.imageshack.us and experiment with the sizes.
Edited by vinnie97 - 11/27/13 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by WingFat View Post

Amazon price drop - Panasonic TC-P65ZT60 65-Inch - Black Friday or the beginning of the dump?

Better be BF or just the "beginning" of the so called dump. That's not much of a drop. I was hoping the prices would drop about a grand eek.gif Still more than I paid w/ corporate discount alone not to mention over 400 dollars in rewards points applied toward Panasonic. Ordered direct and didn't have to deal w/ middle men. The best part is the Panasonic warehouse is a 10 minute drive from my place and Panasonic used NCS logistics to deliver, very professional and personable company. Ended up paying less OOP for this fantastic TV than I paid for the now defunct and returned F8000. But to tell you the truth, had I known how how stunningly good this TV was I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pay every penny MSRP for it. Not only am I blown away every time I turn it on but I've been watching so much it's actually becoming concern for my family. They think I'm developing some sort of addiction rolleyes.gif
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I was wondering what everyone's experience w/ this set is in regard to motion blur/judder...
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

I was wondering what everyone's experience w/ this set is in regard to motion blur/judder...
I have yet to see any judder or blur at all. Not that I recall anyway. And if I did see it I would likely blame the source (compressed cable).
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

I was wondering what everyone's experience w/ this set is in regard to motion blur/judder...
I have yet to see any judder or blur at all. Not that I recall anyway. And if I did see it I would likely blame the source (compressed cable).

Thanks. I was thinking along the lines of fast motion scenes and/or gaming consoles if anyone has any experiences they'd like to share...
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Thanks. I was thinking along the lines of fast motion scenes and/or gaming consoles if anyone has any experiences they'd like to share...
You're asking for people to tell you if they've experienced motion blur and juddering? Because I game--PS3, FPS mainly--and haven't seen any rendering issues.
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Thanks. I was thinking along the lines of fast motion scenes and/or gaming consoles if anyone has any experiences they'd like to share...
You're asking for people to tell you if they've experienced motion blur and juddering? Because I game--PS3, FPS mainly--and haven't seen any rendering issues.

Appreciate that, VERY good to know. I might be in the market for a new display here shortly and I'm looking at the Samsung F8500 as well.
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Appreciate that, VERY good to know. I might be in the market for a new display here shortly and I'm looking at the Samsung F8500 as well.
No problem. That's not to mean such issues haven't been noticed by others or that you wouldn't notice them yourself, just that I haven't. The ZT60 and F8500 are both great TVs. I'm sure you'd enjoy either. However, as with all plasmas, you'll want to ease into gaming a bit when the TV is new and the phosphors are running hot. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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Thanks. I was thinking along the lines of fast motion scenes and/or gaming consoles if anyone has any experiences they'd like to share...
Gaming on it right now, im a heavy gamer, own a ps4, ps3, xbox one, wiiu, gaming pc. No blur. No judder. Smooth as can be. Good input lag in game mode. Nothing to worry about.
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Originally Posted by Terebi View Post

So how does the retailer know it has been serviced? Do they check with Panasonic? Did the retailer record the S/N before shipping the unit?

I wonder if the reluctance to take it back has something to do with the responsibility shifting to the manufacturer now that you have taken advantage of the warranty.
Well...this was my own dumb fault. I let them know that I had the foam fix installed. Tho, I guess it's possible they would have found out from Panasonic. In any case, I would recommend that anyone who buys from Paul's TV and gets the foam kit installed and subsequently wants to exchange, should not let Paul's TV know about the fix.

At this point, I'll have to deal with Panasonic directly. I'll get the board replaced for the buzzing issue and go from there. The thing is, even if I got Paul's TV to exchange, there's no guarantee I would get a August 2013 build or later. And even if I did, would that really resolve the fan noise and buzzing. Also, there's a chance that I have other issues like dead pixels and banding.
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