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Originally Posted by Metlore View Post

Chad B. came and did a calibration on my ZT60.
Thanks for posting your calibration comments. I've added a link to your post in the flat panel (post number two) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.

If you have further comments to make about your audio or video calibration, it would be great if you could use the edit command to add them to your original post. Enjoy. smile.gif
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Is it possible to turn the red light off when watching the tv? I remember hearing something about that a while back but couldnt figure it out myself
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Originally Posted by music_to_my_ear View Post

Is it possible to turn the red light off when watching the tv? I remember hearing something about that a while back but couldnt figure it out myself

Nope.
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Originally Posted by music_to_my_ear View Post

Is it possible to turn the red light off when watching the tv? I remember hearing something about that a while back but couldnt figure it out myself
You can cover it. Some use black electrician's tape and others get special little paste ons that are designed for the job. They can block the red light completely or partially.
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Guys- I'm days away from purchasing the ZT60. I'm trying to read through this entire thread before I make the purchase, but with 194 pages of posts, it's taking me a while. I've noticed on the last few posts that people are referencing the build date as an indicator of something. Would someone be kind enough to either explain why the build date matters or point me to the posts that do, please? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by cwall1313 View Post

Guys- I'm days away from purchasing the ZT60. I'm trying to read through this entire thread before I make the purchase, but with 194 pages of posts, it's taking me a while. I've noticed on the last few posts that people are referencing the build date as an indicator of something. Would someone be kind enough to either explain why the build date matters or point me to the posts that do, please? Thanks in advance.

A later build means it has a higher chance of having the fan mod. The fans will make less noise when the tv is running. This is subjective to each person but alot of folks have complained about it being loud. It may or may not bother you. There is also a DIY fix you could do yourself as well. Other than that there have been no other issues with the zt60 other than the usual 2% of faulty sets all manufacturers experience and usually are spotted within the 30 day period....Buy it its an awesome set
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Originally Posted by music_to_my_ear View Post

Is it possible to turn the red light off when watching the tv? I remember hearing something about that a while back but couldnt figure it out myself

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You can cover it. Some use black electrician's tape and others get special little paste ons that are designed for the job. They can block the red light completely or partially.

WHAT!? I remember hearing the red light could be turned off via an option in the menu! Wow....that is SUCH a buzzkill. Im surprised Panasonic did not add that option in. Really really surprised. Especially since this was the ultimate display for home theater use...weird
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

your brownser work now or not ?

IDK...will try tonight!
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Still doesnt work....Wifi is password protected. Signal is super strong. Panasonic home page works perfectly and loads fast but still cannot visit any other webpage via the URL bar or google search bar.

I still get the "This connection is unsecure" pop up

UPDATE:

IT WORKS!

Soo bizzarre...I decided to enter in the address in the url box again and it worked.....I didnt do anything different either. But the google box still doesnt work lmao

UPDATE #2:

I got the message again! " This connection is unsecure" when i put in another website address lol....Oh man...

UPDATE #3:

I got avsforum.com to load. This is too funny. Something is definately up with the browser.
Edited by music_to_my_ear - 12/30/13 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by music_to_my_ear View Post


WHAT!? I remember hearing the red light could be turned off via an option in the menu! Wow....that is SUCH a buzzkill. Im surprised Panasonic did not add that option in. Really really surprised. Especially since this was the ultimate display for home theater use...weird
This is an issue I have trouble getting worked up about. www.lightdims.com if it bothers you. wink.gif
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Im not bothered because I cant turn it off Im bothered because Panasonic didnt include the option to turn it off. It was like the icing on the cake for me...you know that super-cool-only high-end-display-feature-that-i-woudlnt-use-but-would-be-cool-to-have type of thing. I thought they went all out on the ZT60...they couldnt include that option frown.gif lol
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I was just trying to come to grips with the fact that the ZT60 wouldn't beat my 111FD in black levels. biggrin.gif That power LED wasn't on my radar given this disappointment. 1st world probs, eh.
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Had a few questions for those that have previously owned a 9th generation Pioneer Kuro and the ZT60:

-On the Kuro I recall the 60" inch was not as bright as the 50". Is that the case with the Panny zt60?
-anybody know if the Kuro is brighter than the Zt60 (I had the 50" elite in the final year of its production). Its currently in a room that is 13x20 (where the couch and TV are 13 feet away) and the only external light is a sliding glass door that runs along a far wall and is about 10 feet away. I never have had any glare issues or brightness issues whatsoever. I assume that is the same case with the Panny?
-Is the fan noise that people complain about (in the pre-august builds) any worse than the buzz on the Kuro? I've gotten used to that.
-I have an older BDI Avion 77" TV console with a plasma mount on the furniture itself. At the time it only supported up to 55". Is the location on a 60-65" the same as a 50-55" that I could mount it to this? I'd assume that the weight of the 60-65" is lower than TV's of 5 years ago so should be able to support it.
-Is there a 3rd party kit to change the bezel at all so that I can put a piano black glossy bezel like the Kuro? Love that look. Don't like that silver trim on the zt60.


Thanks in advance. Also I was at Best Buy today and there was a logo burned (or IR'ed) into the screen that didn't exist 3 weeks ago. I assume i'd really have to abuse the TV to get this to happen at home?
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I am curious, Is the only "decent" disk out there to do a home calibration for the 3D picture on the ZT60 (using calman and a personal meter) the newest Spears & Munsil disk?
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Originally Posted by Jason Priestley View Post

Had a few questions for those that have previously owned a 9th generation Pioneer Kuro and the ZT60:

-On the Kuro I recall the 60" inch was not as bright as the 50". Is that the case with the Panny zt60?
-anybody know if the Kuro is brighter than the Zt60 (I had the 50" elite in the final year of its production). Its currently in a room that is 13x20 (where the couch and TV are 13 feet away) and the only external light is a sliding glass door that runs along a far wall and is about 10 feet away. I never have had any glare issues or brightness issues whatsoever. I assume that is the same case with the Panny?
-Is the fan noise that people complain about (in the pre-august builds) any worse than the buzz on the Kuro? I've gotten used to that.
-I have an older BDI Avion 77" TV console with a plasma mount on the furniture itself. At the time it only supported up to 55". Is the location on a 60-65" the same as a 50-55" that I could mount it to this? I'd assume that the weight of the 60-65" is lower than TV's of 5 years ago so should be able to support it.
-Is there a 3rd party kit to change the bezel at all so that I can put a piano black glossy bezel like the Kuro? Love that look. Don't like that silver trim on the zt60.


Thanks in advance. Also I was at Best Buy today and there was a logo burned (or IR'ed) into the screen that didn't exist 3 weeks ago. I assume i'd really have to abuse the TV to get this to happen at home?

I don't own a ZT (yet) but I do own 2 9g Kuros...

Generally speaking, the larger a plasma TV, the less bright it can get. The 9g 60" Kuro can get brighter than the ZT, but it does not have the newer AR filter that the ZT has. Someone else can chime in on whether that filter makes it better in a head to head competition vs. the Kuro in a bright room.

I think VE is still selling the black matte bezel ZT, you may want to check with them.

IR on Panasonics is a touchy subject. Many owners claim to suffer from it, but plenty others never see a problem.
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Originally Posted by Jason Priestley View Post

Had a few questions for those that have previously owned a 9th generation Pioneer Kuro and the ZT60:

-On the Kuro I recall the 60" inch was not as bright as the 50". Is that the case with the Panny zt60?
-anybody know if the Kuro is brighter than the Zt60 (I had the 50" elite in the final year of its production). Its currently in a room that is 13x20 (where the couch and TV are 13 feet away) and the only external light is a sliding glass door that runs along a far wall and is about 10 feet away. I never have had any glare issues or brightness issues whatsoever. I assume that is the same case with the Panny?
-Is the fan noise that people complain about (in the pre-august builds) any worse than the buzz on the Kuro? I've gotten used to that.
-I have an older BDI Avion 77" TV console with a plasma mount on the furniture itself. At the time it only supported up to 55". Is the location on a 60-65" the same as a 50-55" that I could mount it to this? I'd assume that the weight of the 60-65" is lower than TV's of 5 years ago so should be able to support it.
-Is there a 3rd party kit to change the bezel at all so that I can put a piano black glossy bezel like the Kuro? Love that look. Don't like that silver trim on the zt60.


Thanks in advance. Also I was at Best Buy today and there was a logo burned (or IR'ed) into the screen that didn't exist 3 weeks ago. I assume i'd really have to abuse the TV to get this to happen at home?
The ZT60 is not brighter than the Kuro...it's quite the opposite, but the filter should make it suitable for that room. Yes, the air/fan/whirring/pulsation is quite a bit more obnoxious and louder than typical plasma buzz. It's best to find the weight specs for the mount itself. There's no 3rd party kit to change the bezel...it'd be a DIY. Stubborn IR can occur with as little as 6 to 9 hours of gaming or watching content with bright logos. The pixel flipper on the Disney WOW disc (in Vivid Mode) is the quickest way to overcome it.
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

The ZT60 is not brighter than the Kuro...it's quite the opposite.
According to S&V's measurements (Oct. issue) it's about the same as their reference sample.


Ian
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The 60" Kuro is by no means limited to just 33.6 ftL (of course neither is the ZT as Chad B has illustrated).
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I was just trying to come to grips with the fact that the ZT60 wouldn't beat my 111FD in black levels. biggrin.gif That power LED wasn't on my radar given this disappointment. 1st world probs, eh.

Oh it didnt? The ZT60 didnt beat it? I thought I remember you said it did...so how did you determine that?
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

According to S&V's measurements (Oct. issue) it's about the same as their reference sample.


Ian

What he meant in the review was BOTH displays were calibrated to the SAME foot lamberts or brightness which was around 33-34 footlamberts from what I can recall.
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Wha?! That would mean I was one of the active participants who mislead you!

I had them side-by-side playing equivalent content (via dual HDMI output Oppo) before selling tke Kuro and it was a wash.
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Cmon guys....there is no point in thinking the ZT60 is miles higher than the kuro. According to reviews it barely squeaked by and most cases it was a down right tie. The kuro definately can get brighter though. Without voltage adjustments and the kuro mod, black levels in every kuro display aside from the krp-500 and 101 or 111 or whichever that it was are same and in some instances the zt60 is darker and less often the kuro was darker. I still prefer a 65" zt60 over a 60" Kuro. I love the size biggrin.gif And the ultra black filter on the zt60 is just...oh my....the black levels in daylight are OLED blacks. Pitch Black Inkyness. As I stated in my final review of the ZT60 a few posts back the fitler was one feature that made me most pleased in owning this display. I show it off to my friends everytime they come over
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" Hey guys...look at those blacks....only the ZT60 can give blacks that deep with lights on" =D
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Originally Posted by music_to_my_ear View Post

Oh it didnt? The ZT60 didnt beat it? I thought I remember you said it did...so how did you determine that?

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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Wha?! That would mean I was one of the active participants who mislead you!

I had them side-by-side playing equivalent content (via dual HDMI output Oppo) before selling tke Kuro and it was a wash.


ahaha naw vinnie you werent one of the chumps who mislead me dont worry smile.gif It was a random thing I thought you said. I stand corrected then?

What does it mean when folks say wash? Tie? Something was definately noticeable?
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Yup, too difficult to definitively claim one is better than the other due to variable performance (one looking slightly darker in certain content, with the other looking slightly darker in a separate scene...I blame the filter!). smile.gif
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The filter on the ZT60 is awesome. Im watching "Last of the Mohicans" right now with two pot lights on and a battle sccene at night time is occuring with flares being shot up into the night sky and omgggg im not kidding when im saying this and im NOT being over generous of what this display can do since I didnt appreciate other folks boosting their kuros and displays but it literally looks pitch black with a night time sky and when the flares were launched it was still pitch black everywhere except where the flares were.....THIS is what I call OLED like. Unfortunately when i turn the lights off completely the black levels look a little brighter but my bias light reinforces them some more. Give or take is what I say
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Originally Posted by sooke View Post

IR (Image Retention) will show up with the screen wipe. It will look like a slight darkening or smudging on the white scrolling bar. I wonder if this is what you and RCatanese are seeing. If so it should fade from watching logo-free content.

I'm sure that was it in my case since I can't see it anymore. Just recently turned off Home Screen and don't have to worry about that IR either.
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After calibration, Chad B. got my fL up to 35.8 using the mid panel brightness setting. I consider that perfectly fine.
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Originally Posted by bob brennan View Post

i would like peoples thoughts on adding an Oppo BDP-103D to the system below - have read up on Darbee and most reviews favorable - posted below on OPPO 103D thread - would like the ZT60 threads thoughts on this addition

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"Planning on buying 103D today - appears I can connect cable box to rear HDMI and then output from HDMI 1 output to use Darbee - Will send the signal to ONKYO TX-NR 809 (see below) to 65ZT60 in diretect/through mode - SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN????

Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
Panasonic DMP-BDT220
Toshiba HD-DVD-3A
OPPO DV-981HD Onkyo TX-NR809
Technics CD SL-PD888

Definitive Technology - Studio Monitor 65 (2)
Definitive Technology - CS8040HD
Definitive Technology – Studio Monitor 45 (2)
Definitive Technology - Super Cube 6000

I am not familiar with your specific equipment, but I own an Oppo103D and separate Darbee 5000. Since you are using a receiver in the mix, why not just buy a Darbee 5000 and insert it in the receiver’s HDMI output? That way, all your sources could enjoy Darbee processing.

As far as the Oppo103D is concerned, you need to be aware that it takes about 23 seconds to boot before it will accept the INPUT command, allowing you to make the rear HDMI in selection. Since you are planning on using cable TV as the source for the Oppo rear HDMI input, this delay may not be welcome if you watch cable TV regularly. I use the rear HDMI input for my PCH A-400 that I use infrequently, so the delay doesn’t bother me.
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