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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

If the current switch is malfunctioning or not properly delivering the signal, you would be noticing HDMI dropouts in the form of audible and/or visible glitches on-screen. Is your PQ being degraded in some other way aside from this? OK, "a little bit of loss." That just seems unlikely and more related to psychology, but I'm not in your room (wouldn't that be creepy?) seeing what you are. I just think it might be a waste if you upgrade a perfectly working switch.

Seems like I have a little more grainy then normal. It is an older switch but it is 3d and 1080p compatible. I'm fine with ordering a new switch just wondering what switch is the best. I know the tv supports hdmi 1.4.
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Edited by changboy - 1/11/14 at 5:57am
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Thats why I bought 2 ZT's 60 and 65. Love them...biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

Can someone tell me who's settings are the brightest? I have it set on custom for now because it has the most light output other than vivid of course. Also, Does anyone know how I can post a recording of my obnoxious buzz and fan noise on this thread? I sit 22 feet away from my set and the fan is cranking and the buzz is aweful. I know all about the fix for the fan, but not sure they can fix the buzz. This set doesn't do it for me during the day. At night with the lights out, it looks great! Maybe some brighter settings will change my mind as far as daylight performance. Thanks guys.

I have plugged in the CNet setting and the Sound and Vision setting I would say CNets are a little brighter.
CNet set the sharpness to 0 so its a little more filmlike, I still had a little green so I pulled the tint down -5 (should probably work the green in the individual but that was easy.)
S&V has sharpness set to 50 so its a bit sharper but a little lower light output to me.

The list of settings can be found here.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1474480/official-zt60-owners-thread/6000#post_24154216

I will be putting in DNice's and Sammy's next I will use Cinema, Customer, Pro 1 & Pro 2 and get all 4 in then do some A/B viewing.
DNice's Settings look like they will be bright as well.

I will say as I am playing more and tuning in the look I like I am getting more WOW for sure.

Have about 200 hours going to run some more slides and mixed content.
Edited by bvader - 1/8/14 at 11:48pm
post #6335 of 11435
Just purchased a 65ZT60. Was looking for a 65VT60, but thought the extra $500 was worth the step up. But now i'm have doubts. I have a dim viewing room, but on the weekends watch tv in the day time. Is the daytime viewing that different between the VT and ZT? I've read dark viewing is pretty identical. Any other benefits to keep the ZT over a VT? I'm sure this has been asked to death. I'm just trying to justify my purchase smile.gif
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Question to the settings / calibration crews:

It seems to me that there are 4 picture modes that can be fully customized : Cinema, Custom, Pro 1 and Pro 2.

Is there anything inherent in those picture modes other that their default settings or could I put DNice's setting in anyone of those picture modes and get the same results?
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Originally Posted by Inseconds99 View Post

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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

If the current switch is malfunctioning or not properly delivering the signal, you would be noticing HDMI dropouts in the form of audible and/or visible glitches on-screen. Is your PQ being degraded in some other way aside from this? OK, "a little bit of loss." That just seems unlikely and more related to psychology, but I'm not in your room (wouldn't that be creepy?) seeing what you are. I just think it might be a waste if you upgrade a perfectly working switch.

Seems like I have a little more grainy then normal. It is an older switch but it is 3d and 1080p compatible. I'm fine with ordering a new switch just wondering what switch is the best. I know the tv supports hdmi 1.4.
Sparkles? Yes. A little grainy? No. At least not because of anything having to do with HDMI. Digital signals do not behave that way.
post #6338 of 11435
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Originally Posted by bvader View Post

Question to the settings / calibration crews:

It seems to me that there are 4 picture modes that can be fully customized : Cinema, Custom, Pro 1 and Pro 2.

Is there anything inherent in those picture modes other that their default settings or could I put DNice's setting in anyone of those picture modes and get the same results?

I have CNet in cinema, Sammie in Pro1 and DNice in Pro2. I used S&V settings for a long time but decided there was too much of a blue push. Custom is different from the Pro modes and will give different results with the same settings. In picture menu you can copy adjustments from one picture mode to another.
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Picked up my new ZT last night was unpacking and the top styrofoam piece was broken up into 3 separate pieces and it appears that the left piece was roughly broken.. no other pieces in the box broken.. the plastic covering was not perfectly tucked in..
Everything else looked good. Won't get to mount and turn on until Sunday when brother comes to help me lift/place on stand

Did anyone else have similar packaging experiences?
post #6340 of 11435
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Originally Posted by johdtv View Post

Just purchased a 65ZT60. Was looking for a 65VT60, but thought the extra $500 was worth the step up. But now i'm have doubts. I have a dim viewing room, but on the weekends watch tv in the day time. Is the daytime viewing that different between the VT and ZT? I've read dark viewing is pretty identical. Any other benefits to keep the ZT over a VT? I'm sure this has been asked to death. I'm just trying to justify my purchase smile.gif

There's nothing wrong with watching a ZT in the daytime, and in fact this is when its benefit over the VT is noticeable. Just pull the shades if the windows are directly behind your viewing position and the reflections bother you. Enjoy your ZT!
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

I'm at 24 hours on the slides, and the areas of the screen away from the center are taking on a slight pinkish tone when viewed on a white or gray slide. Is this what others have seen? I assume this evens out over time.

I'm no pro but I bet you are seeing an imbalance in the grayscale. Before I had my old DLP calibrated it was showing the same issue. If you had a slight red push out of the box and then applied someone else's settings to it then you may have inadvertently magnified the problem.
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Originally Posted by Terebi View Post

There's nothing wrong with watching a ZT in the daytime, and in fact this is when its benefit over the VT is noticeable. Just pull the shades if the windows are directly behind your viewing position and the reflections bother you. Enjoy your ZT!

Thanks. I just wanted to know how visible the daytime difference was because I wasn't able to really check this out in the store due to different mounting heights of the VT and ZT.
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

Can someone tell me who's settings are the brightest? I have it set on custom for now because it has the most light output other than vivid of course. Also, Does anyone know how I can post a recording of my obnoxious buzz and fan noise on this thread? I sit 22 feet away from my set and the fan is cranking and the buzz is aweful. I know all about the fix for the fan, but not sure they can fix the buzz. This set doesn't do it for me during the day. At night with the lights out, it looks great! Maybe some brighter settings will change my mind as far as daylight performance. Thanks guys.

Wouldn't a buzzing screen buzz more as you increase the brightness? Have you tried THX Daytime? It's been measured at 59 fL out of the box.

If you put the recording in something like Dropbox and then post a link to it here we should be able to download it and play it. Only problem is we won't know what volume to play it at to get an idea of how annoying it is.
post #6344 of 11435
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

Can someone tell me who's settings are the brightest? I have it set on custom for now because it has the most light output other than vivid of course. Also, Does anyone know how I can post a recording of my obnoxious buzz and fan noise on this thread? I sit 22 feet away from my set and the fan is cranking and the buzz is aweful. I know all about the fix for the fan, but not sure they can fix the buzz. This set doesn't do it for me during the day. At night with the lights out, it looks great! Maybe some brighter settings will change my mind as far as daylight performance. Thanks guys.
22 feet away from the TV, really? You need like a 120" screen for that at least. What are you watching your TV through your neighbors window? Have you tried using binoculars?

All seriousness though, why not go with much larger LED. It is not like you will be able to tell the difference of pq from that far away.
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Originally Posted by johdtv View Post


Thanks. I just wanted to know how visible the daytime difference was because I wasn't able to really check this out in the store due to different mounting heights of the VT and ZT.


I've had the ZT for a couple of days now and I am very satisfied with day viewing, along with night viewing and my panel is right next to a north facing window.  I started out with the shade closed, but in THX Cinema mode, to my eye, I'm not at all bothered by the added light.  I have to say, in the store, other tvs have better Wow factors, but in reality, in my home, I'm even finding THX Daylight to be too bright and washed out, with greyish looking blacks.

By the way, I hear no fan noise or buzz.  Same things were being said about the Kuro 151FD when I got mine, however I found none of that in my panel.  At the time, it was said that some ears are just sensitive to those frequencies and others are not.  I guess I'm just lucky, because I've had no issues with either panel...thank God...May 2013 build date.


Edited by derekarita - 1/9/14 at 7:13am
post #6346 of 11435
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Originally Posted by oreb View Post

I have CNet in cinema, Sammie in Pro1 and DNice in Pro2. I used S&V settings for a long time but decided there was too much of a blue push. Custom is different from the Pro modes and will give different results with the same settings. In picture menu you can copy adjustments from one picture mode to another.

OK follow up questions....

1) I only see how to copy from one input to another not one picture mode to another... am I missing something?

2) What is different about the custom mode?

BTW for those that may have a had a less than stellar experience of picture out of the box (dim, not much pop, off tones) ... that was me ... frankly I was a bit concerned and doubting my decision a bit.

BUT 200 hours later and plugging in the different settings ... the picture is best I have experienced and extremely pleasing to my eyes (and I haven't really dived into Blu-Ray with the new OPPO yet, and finished playing / plugging the settings ) and as others have said just seems to be be getting better and better which I am sure is a combination of putting in the settings and the panel stabilizing.

For me light output is not an issue at all so far (that was a major concern OTB) and I am in a non-light-controlled room, I have ceiling lighting and windows, and lots of Art in glass on the walls, the AR is awesome, have not however been able to get a chance to watch under my rooms worst conditions which is late afternoon sun (bright and glarey room). Will report back on that, but I don''t expect that to be a problem.

Anyone interested ~175 hours slides straight (I am in the opinion that I wanted to stress the panel a bit) panel was warm but never hot... did not flinch, now running some mixed content put a few more hours.

Fan noise...minor... still under consideration. May Build Date.

Very Satisfied.

Aziz, Light!
Edited by bvader - 1/9/14 at 10:42am
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Still waiting for Panasonic to get back to me about a tech support / warranty issue... It's been two days! frown.gif

I called first... they asked me to email photos...


My email to them:

"Hello...

The TV was purchased on 06/21/13 from Best Buy

My case number is #######

I was asked to send images of the issues I am having with my tc-p65zt60. I as mentioned to the person taking tech support calls. I am experiencing several issues with my new display.

The first is the problem with is with the area to the right of the screen... There is a dark 1.75" band on the top right to bottom right of the screen. It is always darker than the image displayed on the screen. It doesn't go away and seems to be worsening with time.

The second is the area at the bottom 1/3 of the screen... it has a pink tint to it. This are is less noticeable but can be clearly seen during calibration... Overall the screen is not uniform in color or brightness... very disappointing!



I am very disappointed with the state of my new TV... This display was supposed to be the ultimate replacement for the Pioneer Kuro's. I own a Pioneer KRP-500m (now in my bedroom) which even after 5000+ hours of use... exhibits none f the flaws my brand new "Flagship" ZT series is having.

This is simply unacceptable!

Please get back with ASAP."

Two days later... I am still waiting. I do have the geek squad 5 year protection plan on the tv but would prefer to deal with the panasonic first... then I could keep my 5 year warranty.

Any one else have a better warranty experience? Any advice?

Thanks
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Also... Has anyone found a way to change the aspect ratio of content played through the TV's Netflix App?

Panasonic is telling me its impossible... and that the TV does not have a automatic mode that senses content (like my KRP-500m) or lack there of and stretches the picture accordingly.

A lot of my boys favorite shows are in 4:3... Which they can't watch via the app... I was really hoping to retire my old Roku box. :/
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Also... Has anyone found a way to change the aspect ratio of content played through the TV's Netflix App?

Panasonic is telling me its impossible... and that the TV does not have a automatic mode that senses content (like my KRP-500m) or lack there of and stretches the picture accordingly.

A lot of my boys favorite shows are in 4:3... Which they can't watch via the app... I was really hoping to retire my old Roku box. :/

I think if you change the AR first then run the Netflix app the AR may stick. I haven't tried this myself, though. From what I hear, the app pretty much takes over the display (like an overlay). Someone else may want to chime in if I'm mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Mr Paw View Post

Wouldn't a buzzing screen buzz more as you increase the brightness? Have you tried THX Daytime? It's been measured at 59 fL out of the box.

If you put the recording in something like Dropbox and then post a link to it here we should be able to download it and play it. Only problem is we won't know what volume to play it at to get an idea of how annoying it is.
I have tried the thx bright room and it is too green and washed out for my taste. Also, I can't believe that that mode was measured at 59fl. That must mean that vivid matches the brightness if the f8500 at 80 plus fl. I thought David katzmaier calibrated the zt60 for a super bright room and could only pull something like 43fl out of this set? On another note I tried the standard trick and to my surprise it worked. The picture has the brightness and very accurate (to my eye) colors that I love. It also looked very 3D in 2D. Watching the news and people seem to pop off the screen, very impressive. Here's the bad news; for the first time with a tv, I noticed the ABL. The screen goes bright than dim, over and over. If that light output was stable, to me this setting would be the ultimate picture mode. Thanks
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Well.. I bit the big bullet.

 

I am now the proud owner of a 65ZT and I think I got a decent deal on it as a Canadian. We always get to pay more for everything up here. ;)

 

I plan to pick it up this weekend, and it should fit right where my TH-50PF10UK is and fill up all the space between my stereo racks... I can't wait!

 

Hopefully all is well with the set when it arrives, my fingers are crossed.

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Originally Posted by chillspace View Post

I think if you change the AR first then run the Netflix app the AR may stick. I haven't tried this myself, though. From what I hear, the app pretty much takes over the display (like an overlay). Someone else may want to chime in if I'm mistaken.

Thanks... I've tried that but it's a no go. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

Still waiting for Panasonic to get back to me about a tech support / warranty issue... It's been two days! frown.gif

I called first... they asked me to email photos...


My email to them:

"Hello...

The TV was purchased on 06/21/13 from Best Buy

My case number is #######

I was asked to send images of the issues I am having with my tc-p65zt60. I as mentioned to the person taking tech support calls. I am experiencing several issues with my new display.

The first is the problem with is with the area to the right of the screen... There is a dark 1.75" band on the top right to bottom right of the screen. It is always darker than the image displayed on the screen. It doesn't go away and seems to be worsening with time.

The second is the area at the bottom 1/3 of the screen... it has a pink tint to it. This are is less noticeable but can be clearly seen during calibration... Overall the screen is not uniform in color or brightness... very disappointing!



I am very disappointed with the state of my new TV... This display was supposed to be the ultimate replacement for the Pioneer Kuro's. I own a Pioneer KRP-500m (now in my bedroom) which even after 5000+ hours of use... exhibits none f the flaws my brand new "Flagship" ZT series is having.

This is simply unacceptable!

Please get back with ASAP."

Two days later... I am still waiting. I do have the geek squad 5 year protection plan on the tv but would prefer to deal with the panasonic first... then I could keep my 5 year warranty.

Any one else have a better warranty experience? Any advice?

Thanks


Not sure about the line, but I believe the tint you notice might be fairly common...........
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Originally Posted by changboy View Post

The guys from cnet talking about all new tv at the CES 2014 and the way they talk its seam all new tv are gimmik and near the end of the video (13 min.) they join there hands and pray : we will miss you panasonic plasma ! hehehe, crazy.

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt3OSMKPJu0

Well it's true, most of the 4k tv's are simply another version of 3D (as in another bell or whistle that most people don't need, but it's a carrot to entice you to replace the tv you just got 2-3 years ago). The real funny thing is 4k for computer monitors, talk about massive overkill!
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

I have tried the thx bright room and it is too green and washed out for my taste. Also, I can't believe that that mode was measured at 59fl.

Hi Avkik,

This is the article I got it from. Some other member referred to it and I think all here should read it.

http://referencehometheater.com/2013/commentary/sharing-calibration-settings-results-compared/

I'm not sure if this would work but perhaps try to copy the settings from THX Bright to Custom and then tweek down the green drive?

When my calibrator visits in late Feb I will be paying extra to learn how it's done (that is how one changes the THX settings to lose the green or whatever). I don't see green push in mine but I have a red and green colour deficiency. No other viewers have said anything though. On my previous sets he calibrated the THX settings in the service menu and centred all the other controls so that if someone messed around with the tint or brightness you could tell at a glance that it was changed by looking at the "bars".

Mike
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Originally Posted by Litlgi74 View Post

The TV was purchased on 06/21/13 from Best Buy

How many hours do you have on the set?
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Originally Posted by rifleman69 View Post

...The real funny thing is 4k for computer monitors, talk about massive overkill!

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As a network engineer, who works with (3) monitors on the desk everyday, and also an active investor, "4k computer monitors" will be more than welcome at my work/home...esp. if they can make them smaller than 30".
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

I have tried the thx bright room and it is too green and washed out for my taste. Also, I can't believe that that mode was measured at 59fl. That must mean that vivid matches the brightness if the f8500 at 80 plus fl. I thought David katzmaier calibrated the zt60 for a super bright room and could only pull something like 43fl out of this set? On another note I tried the standard trick and to my surprise it worked. The picture has the brightness and very accurate (to my eye) colors that I love. It also looked very 3D in 2D. Watching the news and people seem to pop off the screen, very impressive. Here's the bad news; for the first time with a tv, I noticed the ABL. The screen goes bright than dim, over and over. If that light output was stable, to me this setting would be the ultimate picture mode. Thanks
Just a quck update. The brightness fluctuating might have been because I never turned the C.A.T.S off for standard mode. Does brightness fluctuating every 20 seconds or so sound like something that could happen with the C.A.T.S on?? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by colnago View Post

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As a network engineer, who works with (3) monitors on the desk everyday, and also an active investor, "4k computer monitors" will be more than welcome at my work/home...esp. if they can make them smaller than 30".

You'd be one of the few. It's still massive overkill for Joe Q Public. I like Changboy's link but again that's just lining up the monitors in an easier to read situation rather than replacing three monitors with one.
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