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Originally Posted by rifleman69 View Post

You should definitely use a UPS for a tv or anything else this costly. Run, don't walk to buy one.

And the fact behind doing so is? Surge yes but UPS not necessary. Another myth that more is always better. If you have a server or computer that you need to power down on the same plug then I stand corrected.
post #7142 of 11380
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

And the fact behind doing so is? Surge yes but UPS not necessary. Another myth that more is always better. If you have a server or computer that you need to power down on the same plug then I stand corrected.
So it's not needed? I was just going to ask how much they run and if this takes the place of a surge protector and what additional protection it offers.
post #7143 of 11380
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Originally Posted by Jason Priestley View Post

So I caved and bought a 60" ZT60 as in my region (Northern NJ), there was no VT's in any sizes anymore and no 65" ZT's. Really bummed about not getting a 65" but that's my own fault as I knew there were only 10 in the region a week ago. Now here is my conundrum. Do I pony up for Best Buy's $600 "Gold Plan" which includes
-Slim tilt mount and installation. They claim that alone is about $360 in total.
-5 year warranty which by itself is $500.

My current Pioneer is mounted to a BDI stand (shown below) but the claim is this will only support up to 55". I do love the mounted look but like that this setup lets me easily access the back (My console has hidden wheels and the stand is attached to the console). I also like that I can hang this backlight system which I find great.

Anybody have experience with plasma mounting?
1) Is it recommended to get a swivel so you can access the back of the TV even though it sticks out more?
2) Is the one that Best Buy provides of good quality or a cheap crappy one?
3) Is there better mount that I should have them install and should I really just do it myself (I'm not entirely handy but I guess this is just about finding studs and drilling and getting a power bridge?)

And on the Best Buy warranty?
1) Is the geek squad worth it or will they hassle me if I want them to fix/replace a TV for burn in? or image retention that takes too long to disappear? Stuck pixels or the delamination?
2) They say they will replace the TV if there is no fix with a comparable TV? What exactly does comparable mean when there will be no plasmas in two years? Will they give me the $2000+ credit or just find the cheapest 60" LCD and say that is comparable?

Thoughts?
A good, slim flat mount is $50 tops on the net. Swivel should never be used just to have ease of getting behind the TV. A good swivel mount is $300. They also hold the TV about 4.5" off the wall. Flat mount is 1.25" off the wall. Mounting a TV is pretty easy, running the wires is a tad harder. Using your stand "should" be ok and will not cost you a dime, you can always wall mount later......

Buy a cheaper extended warranty as noted above.

You choice on what you want to do with your cash, and $600 is not bad for all that stuff if they are putting the wires in the wall, if not, save your cash, you can do that work yourself, buy a cheap flat wall mount ( Digicom : PMA-5041 ) and warranty.

Two TC-P65ZT60 are on the way to me, I am sorry when they are giving them away, why not........
post #7144 of 11380
I used a APC UPS for my LCD projector due to cooling fans I just replaced. I do not plug this plasma into a UPS, I use a Panamax. Whatever you have should voltage correct or shut off (so that brown outs don't destroy your TV). A UPS is safest but I used to run Playstation and XBox (anything with a hard drive + LCD Projector) in UPS. Then a "power center" for everything else. I've seen them get hit a few times and they appear to work well. I do not believe in fancy cables but I believe firmly in good power centers and such. I won't spend top dollar but I will buy the best offered at a reasonable price.

My UPS usually buzz when overloaded on voltage, or when the battery is on. When the house is delivering ****** power the Battery kicks on for a few seconds and buzzes. If it is buzzing like that constantly. something is wrong. If you are wondering how loud the buzz is..... It is the same level if I leave the UPS set to "on" but pull the plug out the wall. That gives you an idea of the battery buzz when discharging.

If you are currently overloaded, buy a second one for your TV and split your heavy voltage stuff up.
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Originally Posted by Jason Priestley View Post

What dealer offers that?
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

This is true I believe he purchased from (Visions), a Canadian Audio & Video store. I got the 5 year extended warranty for my GT50 as well, if you don't use it, you get the money back you spent for warranty at the end of the expiring date in gift card Or if you use it, you get an equal high end replacement value worth what you og paid.

Yes. Latinoheat got it right. I bought mine from Visions here in Calgary, AB, Canada. Normally, I don't get extended warranties, but Visions offers a pretty good deal on their warranties. They are a bit pricey but it is a win-win deal with when buying something at this price point.
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Has anyone here confirmed that the micro fractures happened to TVs that had the fan fix done and the back cover was pushing up on the back face of the bezel and not tucked under it?
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Originally Posted by linewizard View Post

I cannot verify but do plan to look into the square trade three year warranty from Costco as it is $99.00 for three years of additional coverage for TV's over $1000.00. I'm wondering if anyone on here is aware of / can validate this warranty would cover our TV's not purchased at Costco?

There are no issues buying the warranty from Costco for a TV purchased somewhere else (so long as you buy it within 60 days of when you bought the set) - I have done it twice and highly recommend it. Had a 70" sharp TV that had some issues pop up after two years of ownership and after troubleshooting was sent a check for the entire PURCHASE price of the set! Also, the $99 warranty is actually four years (and five if you buy the TV at Costco) - it really is a great value.
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^The first year is just the manufacturer's warranty, no? ST is still only 3 years..
Edited by vinnie97 - 1/19/14 at 10:44pm
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For those who have had problems with the browser app or youtube app not loading I may have a solution......

I loaded my netflix account into the netflix app and booted it up and surprisingly the browser app and youtube app load and function flawlessly.

I was having issues before with the browser app and youtube app not loading.

The youtube app would stall at a white black screen for eternity

The browser app woudnt work sometimes and would give me a message saying the browser wasnt secure.

Try loading your information into the netflix app and login in and then access the other apps. It should work fine after that.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Two TC-P65ZT60 are on the way to me, I am sorry when they are giving them away, why not........
Wait, so your buying TV's from the competition?
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Picking up my 60" VT65 from Best Buy today!  Any advantage to pairing a Panasonic DVD player with it over a Sony or Samsung?  I'll be using it with a sound bar system most likely (still deciding on keeping the Klipsch SB-3 I got a great deal on that I haven't opened yet or getting a Sonos Playbar or something else) .  Also any recommendations on a good swivel mount that doesn't stick out too far from the wall?  Sorry for the all the questions but I moved my existing setup to my man cave and this is for the living room.

 

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

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Two TC-P65ZT60 are on the way to me, I am sorry when they are giving them away, why not........

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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Wait, so your buying TV's from the competition?

Yeah, who are "they" who are giving them away?...
post #7153 of 11380
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Originally Posted by BigTT View Post

Picking up my 60" VT65 from Best Buy today!  Any advantage to pairing a Panasonic DVD player with it over a Sony or Samsung?  I'll be using it with a sound bar system most likely (still deciding on keeping the Klipsch SB-3 I got a great deal on that I haven't opened yet or getting a Sonos Playbar or something else) .  Also any recommendations on a good swivel mount that doesn't stick out too far from the wall?  Sorry for the all the questions but I moved my existing setup to my man cave and this is for the living room.

Thanks in advance!
I am familiar with this high definition television but what is this "DVD" thing you talk about? There is no real benefit from owning a Blu-ray player made by the same company that makes your TV. Panasonic has the "Viera Connect" feature that makes it sound like there's a benefit to staying in the Panasonic family but that's just a fancy term for HDMI control.

I wouldn't get a swivel mount unless you absolutely must. There are too many joints. I've never seen one that both moved smoothly and was stable. The thing is 80 pounds. Sanus makes good mounts. Look here.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

So it's not needed? I was just going to ask how much they run and if this takes the place of a surge protector and what additional protection it offers.
I wouldn't get a UPS unless you have a serious and chronic problem with your power supply. Adding another link in the chain--a link with a battery--can present its own set of problems and, if what I've seen on these threads over the years is any indication, the UPS is more likely to fail than anything else in the chain.
Edited by repete66211 - 1/20/14 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^The first year is just the manufacturer's warranty, no? ST is still only 3 years..
I should clarify - it is three years AFTER the manufacturers warranty. That's why TVs bought at Costco get five total years of coverage vs four for others (since Costco gives two years from purchase)
post #7156 of 11380
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

I wouldn't get a UPS unless you have a serious and chronic problem with your power supply. Adding another link in the chain--a link with a battery--can present its own set of problems and, if what I've seen on these threads over the years is any indication, the UPS is more likely to fail than anything else in the chain.


I do not agree. Yes a UPS can fail and when it does it will usually just power everything off, but a surge suppressor can not deal with flickering lights and the associated internal surges the device experiences if it power down and up back to back frequently. A UPS provides a constant source of power and absorbs irregularities that often you won;t even notice. I have run all my expensive electronics on UPSes for a long time and when you are watching your home theater in a storm and the lights flicker and your home theater just keeps humming along unaware of the issue you can appreciate the stresses it removes from fragile components.
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

I do not agree. Yes a UPS can fail and when it does it will usually just power everything off, but a surge suppressor can not deal with flickering lights and the associated internal surges the device experiences if it power down and up back to back frequently. A UPS provides a constant source of power and absorbs irregularities that often you won;t even notice. I have run all my expensive electronics on UPSes for a long time and when you are watching your home theater in a storm and the lights flicker and your home theater just keeps humming along unaware of the issue you can appreciate the stresses it removes from fragile components.
Flickering lights? I've never seen my TV flicker during a storm. I understand a UPS provides a constant source of power. While I would encourage using one with some equipment (i.e. projectors) I just don't see it as necessary with TVs, which really aren't that fragile and have their own internal protection against electronic irregularities. I've had a home theater for years and haven't used a UPS yet our results are the same. Again, I don't think a UPS will cause harm--hum maybe, but not harm--I just don't think they're necessary except in special cases.
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Panamax is the best when it comes down to Power Conditioner,I have 5400-EX biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post


I am familiar with this high definition television but what is this "DVD" thing you talk about? There is no real benefit from owning a Blu-ray player made by the same company that makes your TV. Panasonic has the "Viera Connect" feature that makes it sound like there's a benefit to staying in the Panasonic family but that's just a fancy term for HDMI control.

I wouldn't get a swivel mount unless you absolutely must. There are too many joints. I've never seen one that both moved smoothly and was stable. The thing is 80 pounds. Sanus makes good mounts. Look here.

Thank you for your response!  Sorry I mean Blu-ray player.  It's been years wince I've shopped for any of this stuff.  Sop what would the HDMI control allow me to do?  Any recommendations for Blu-ray players without spending $500 on an Oppo?  I will have to rethink the swivel mouth but it would work really well for the room.  Last question, any advice on the sound bar question?

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A couple more pics detailing the micro-fracture problem. The length of the tallest crack on the top is about 6mm. Most of the 6mm does not actually encroach on the picture. I have no idea whether the cracks have grown over time, since I just discovered this. For the part of the crack that does encroach on the picture, the pixels are messed up. No sure if the photo will show that, but it's posted for review.

I submitted the issue to Panasonic on Friday and just called today. They said they are still reviewing the case and will get back to me in a few hours.

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post #7161 of 11380
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Originally Posted by BigTT View Post

Thank you for your response!  Sorry I mean Blu-ray player.  It's been years wince I've shopped for any of this stuff.  Sop what would the HDMI control allow me to do?  Any recommendations for Blu-ray players without spending $500 on an Oppo?  I will have to rethink the swivel mouth but it would work really well for the room.  Last question, any advice on the sound bar question?
Haha, just kidding about the Blu-ray. "HDMI Control" allows you to use one remote to control multiple devices. I have a home theater so I'm not sure exactly how well it works, but theoretically you could turn both your Blu-ray player and TV off/on, control channel changing and disc content with one of the included remotes. Regarding Blu-ray players, any decent model from the usual suspects (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung) will perform equally well when it comes to display. The real value can be found in how they upgrade standard definition content (DVD), which the Oppo is famous for, and other features (i.e. Netflix) you may want. My advice on a sound bar is to FORGET IT!!! 5.1 all the way! biggrin.gif But seriously, I know nothing about sound bars except that they're better than the TV speakers alone. If I bought one I'd be sure to get a separate (probably wireless) subwoofer as well.
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Originally Posted by vahighland View Post

A couple more pics detailing the micro-fracture problem. The length of the tallest crack on the top is about 6mm. Most of the 6mm does not actually encroach on the picture. I have no idea whether the cracks have grown over time, since I just discovered this. For the part of the crack that does encroach on the picture, the pixels are messed up. No sure if the photo will show that, but it's posted for review.

I submitted the issue to Panasonic on Friday and just called today. They said they are still reviewing the case and will get back to me in a few hours.
Man, I'm sorry to see this. You have my sympathy. Those are some good pics there. It definitely looks like cracking rather than delamination.
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Originally Posted by BigTT View Post

Thank you for your response!  Sorry I mean Blu-ray player.  It's been years wince I've shopped for any of this stuff.  Sop what would the HDMI control allow me to do?  Any recommendations for Blu-ray players without spending $500 on an Oppo?  I will have to rethink the swivel mouth but it would work really well for the room.  Last question, any advice on the sound bar question?

Viera Connect allows the Blu ray player to turn on the TV when you put in a disc, and vice versa when you turn off the TV (turns off player also). Not worth basing a purchasing decision on, but it's still a nice feature if you do happen to get a player from Panasonic. Buy the player that has the features, outputs etc. that you want. I've been pretty happy with the longevity of my Panasonic players, but there are other choices out there also. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Terebi View Post

Viera Connect allows the Blu ray player to turn on the TV when you put in a disc, and vice versa when you turn off the TV (turns off player also). Not worth basing a purchasing decision on, but it's still a nice feature if you do happen to get a player from Panasonic. Buy the player that has the features, outputs etc. that you want. I've been pretty happy with the longevity of my Panasonic players, but there are other choices out there also. Good luck.

I would add that the Viera link usually works with other brands. I set up my old 50V10 at my girlfriend's place with a Sony BDP. I enabled Viera link for on/off and it works as expected with the player.

Jim
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post



I do not agree. Yes a UPS can fail and when it does it will usually just power everything off, but a surge suppressor can not deal with flickering lights and the associated internal surges the device experiences if it power down and up back to back frequently. A UPS provides a constant source of power and absorbs irregularities that often you won;t even notice. I have run all my expensive electronics on UPSes for a long time and when you are watching your home theater in a storm and the lights flicker and your home theater just keeps humming along unaware of the issue you can appreciate the stresses it removes from fragile components.

I agree with what you said. It is pretty hard to hang a TV on a wall and back it up w/ a UPS, but anything reasonably priced that adds protection is probably more good than bad idea.

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Originally Posted by repete66211 View Post

Flickering lights? I've never seen my TV flicker during a storm. I understand a UPS provides a constant source of power. While I would encourage using one with some equipment (i.e. projectors) I just don't see it as necessary with TVs, which really aren't that fragile and have their own internal protection against electronic irregularities. I've had a home theater for years and haven't used a UPS yet our results are the same. Again, I don't think a UPS will cause harm--hum maybe, but not harm--I just don't think they're necessary except in special cases.

of course they aren't necessary, but it is an added precaution. It isn't necessary to plug into anything apart from the wall outlet if you wanted. There's tons of TV owners doing this who are experiencing "the same results" as you. Power issues are 100% random and uncontrollable by consumers. However, it is up to you to decide how much you want to do something about it. I have witnessed my parents' LCD projector get ruined twice in a short period during a storm. One time it could not be fixed, but was swapped under plan. The second time the issue went away. This happened simply during a lightning storm where there was no light flicker or power outage. I put the TV on a UPS and never again did that happen. This had nothing to do with the bulb needing time to cool off via fan, but rather the UPS regulating the power.
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Originally Posted by vahighland View Post

A couple more pics detailing the micro-fracture problem. The length of the tallest crack on the top is about 6mm. Most of the 6mm does not actually encroach on the picture. I have no idea whether the cracks have grown over time, since I just discovered this. For the part of the crack that does encroach on the picture, the pixels are messed up. No sure if the photo will show that, but it's posted for review.

I submitted the issue to Panasonic on Friday and just called today. They said they are still reviewing the case and will get back to me in a few hours.

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Much smaller than what I envisioned the cracks to be. If they don't grow, TV would still be usable outside the warranty. Both cracks in glass tend to grow.
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I just started to run D-Nice's slides on my new TC-P60ZT60 but ran into a problem. The Panasonic Viera screensaver comes on after running the slides for a couple of minutes. I can't find in the menu where you can turn it off.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by eaayoung View Post

Much smaller than what I envisioned the cracks to be. If they don't grow, TV would still be usable outside the warranty. Both cracks in glass tend to grow.
Even if they don't grow, I won't be able to sell the TV in a few years with those cracks. After buying this TV, I recently sold my old TCP65V10 with a TV stand for $1,100.
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I have the pre-delivery jitters related to a TC-P65ZT60 which is scheduled to arrive tomorrow through Ceva Logistics trucking. The shipment started in Miami, Fl. last Wednesday and ships cross country to the Seattle, Wa. area. I couldn't have picked a further shipping point. Hopefully they didn't lay the box on its side. I'm especially worried about the cold temperatures and the possible micro fractures to the screen or a cracked screen. Given that the set survives those catastrophes, I'll worry about noisy fans and vibration harmonics at a later time.
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Originally Posted by myared View Post


Yeah, who are "they" who are giving them away?...
One of my venders.......they are gone......almost all Panasonic's are gone, for a good price anyway.

----Time to look at Samsung units before those are gone. I wonder if Samsung is ready for the demand of there product to jump about 75% ??
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