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post #7441 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Playdrv4me View Post


Do not transport this flat. I used to have all kinds of reasons why you shouldn't do this, but I think it really just varies from one TV to another as far as structural rigidity and assembly quality, and the driving habits of *most* people even on their best behavior. The Kuros for example weigh a BUTTLOAD and are extremely rigid sets with a ton of extra casement around the PDP, but in the ZT the panel basically IS the whole TV and the case is not terribly rigid. It's strong enough to take a beating in a freight truck as we've seen in one particular case here, but a long drive home out of the box and laying flat will probably just put too much stress on this design to not result in potential cracks. Even transporting it this way *in* the box is probably not the best idea, Panasonic's packing is just adequate enough for vertical transport. You made the investment, so make a little more investment and rent a good trailer to put it in and tow. When you add in the potential micro-fracture issue, you have other risks to deal with even without an outright panel crack.

If you don't heed this advice and decide to transport it flat anyway, you at the very LEAST need to put your engineering hat on, figure out exactly where the pressure points are going to be as it lays down, create as flat a floor as possible and then support it with clothes, blankets or other soft items that are not so soft as to cause a bouncing effect, but not just sitting on nothing where every expansion joint and road change will be transferred straight to th

 

 

Thanks for all the input guys.

I think I am going to rent an SUV and transport it vertically. Box height is 40.2" So it should fit in a Ford Escape.

 

Has anyone played 3D content on the TV from a USB stick?

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Originally Posted by Chrisg101TV View Post

Hi guys,

I just ordered a ZT 60 on Monday, picking up Saturday and have a few questions:

I will be transporting via my car and was wondering if I have sales staff power it on to check everything is OK and then lay it flat in my car will that be an issue?

I cannot have it shipped since I am a Canadian purchasing in the US and driving quite a distance to pick it up.

I searched the forums and found a few threads that were quite old with mixed answers regarding laying it flat for transport.

I would also like to know if you are able to play 3D movies via USB stick?

Thanks in advance.

It says right on the box not to transport it flat. It also says it requires 2 people for transport.
post #7443 of 11460
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Originally Posted by jameslrock View Post

Long time Panasonic owner who just recently moved to the TC-P65ZT60. Need to get more time with this new display but want to eventually get a calibration. I never did this before with my former set but now I am wanting to go a big step above. Please provide suggestions for an experienced calibrator who is in or will come to the Piedmont Triad area of North Carolina (zip code 27410). Want a higher level calibrator.

Also I have noticed how much hotter this unit is compared to my former plasma. I also have noticed a smell like it is hot and even a pungent burn in type of smell. Thoughts?

Thanks, Jim

Contact D-Nice he is in SC, but I think he travels your way.
post #7444 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Chrisg101TV View Post
 

You might want to check the length of the box.  It's huge!  Not trying to discourage you but I have a full size pickup with a quad cab and figured I would transport in my cab since the seats fold up and the floor is flat.  It was too long even for the 60".  I ended up transporting it upright in the bed and it was almost the full length of the bed.  I was paranoid driving it 45 minutes.  The box is a lot thinner than the one my 50" Pioneer Elite plasma cam in.  I was much more confident transporting that.

post #7445 of 11460
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Originally Posted by BigTT View Post

You might want to check the length of the box. It's huge!

And height. Mine was delivered in a small panel van. Yes, it's definitely a lot bigger in person! I would also think having something to keep it from tipping over would be advisable.
post #7446 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Chrisg101TV View Post

Thanks for all the input guys.
I think I am going to rent an SUV and transport it vertically. Box height is 40.2" So it should fit in a Ford Escape.

Has anyone played 3D content on the TV from a USB stick?

Don't think the Escape will cut it. I couldn't even get a 141FD 60 inch Kuro with *no* box to stand up vertically in a Lincoln Aviator (Explorer twin). I don't even think a Suburban would even work *in* the box, though maybe out of it. Minivans can sometime work for this due to the very low load floors and the ability to rearrange the interior seating arrangements, but I'm not even sure on that. Full size cargo van or uhaul trailer would be best.
post #7447 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Chrisg101TV View Post

Hi guys,

I just ordered a ZT 60 on Monday, picking up Saturday and have a few questions:

I will be transporting via my car and was wondering if I have sales staff power it on to check everything is OK and then lay it flat in my car will that be an issue?

I cannot have it shipped since I am a Canadian purchasing in the US and driving quite a distance to pick it up.

I searched the forums and found a few threads that were quite old with mixed answers regarding laying it flat for transport.

I would also like to know if you are able to play 3D movies via USB stick?

Thanks in advance.

I would have them power the set up before you leave. You could power up the TV without removing the bottom portion of the shipping box. Very easy to re-box the TV since the top slides over the TV. Bring a long extension cord to make it easier to power the TV. I measured the box for my 60" ZT. Without the bottom installed the height and length is 37.5" x 71". I would transport upright. Not sure that box height will fit in a Ford Escape. Will definitely fit in some vans. I have transported a V10 laid flat in an SUV. But I only had to travel 20 miles and I was very careful to avoid bumps. Wouldn't recommend laying flat, too much risk of breaking the glass panel which is heavy. I have also placed a plasma TV in the back seat of a car (which is mostly upright) covered in blankets and secured by seat belts. Upright is best way to go especially if traveling any distance. Consider renting or borrowing a van and remove one of the center seats.
post #7448 of 11460
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

That's a line-level output, not a speaker output. He would need powered speakers or an amplifier. There is also some question about whether he would have lip-sync issues with the Toslink output and these converters. (Not all these converters are the same.)

I'm going through similar searches myself. Most of my audio equipment is going on 30 years old.

FWIW, I was using one of these TOSLINK DACs to connect the TV to my old'ish receiver. I had to use the TOSLINK cable in new Bluesound to CD player's DAC in my audio only system, and was going to order a replacement TOSLINK cable for the TV. Forgot that I had the bluetooth receiver, which I was using to connect my phone to the receiver, and now will use the bluetooth receiver to connect the TV. There is still a slight 1-2 tenths delay, but it seems to be less than with the DAC I was using.

post #7449 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Chrisg101TV View Post
 

Hi guys,

 

I just ordered a ZT 60 on Monday, picking up Saturday and have a few questions:

 

I will be transporting via my car and was wondering if I have sales staff power it on to check everything is OK and then lay it flat in my car will that be an issue?

 

I cannot have it shipped since I am a Canadian purchasing in the US and driving quite a distance to pick it up.

 

I searched the forums and found a few threads that were quite old with mixed answers regarding laying it flat for transport.

 

I would also like to know if you are able to play 3D movies via USB stick?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

I just picked mine up from the states and drove it back to Canada in -18 in the back of my pickup with a blizzard raging, I was going 120km/h+ the whole time.

 

I used a 4' x 8' sheet of .5" thick plywood and then built 24"W x 40"H brackets out of plywood and studs, I then screwed the plywood/stud brackets to the 4' x 8' plywood sheet.

 

So basically the TV was loaded into the back of the truck upright and pushed against the 2 brackets on the right side. I then slid the other 2 brackets on the left side up tight against the tv and screwed those into the plywood sheet on the bottom.

 

I then made a U out of wood and it connected both the back brackets together while going around the backside of the tv to prevent it from sliding.

 

I then mounted a 2 x 4 stud at the bottom of the TV up snug and screwed that into the plywood sheet.


Lastly, I then used 3 ratchet straps, 2 on top and one on the back to snug it down as one big piece to the box.

 

 

In conclusion, -18 for 2 hours, during blizzard at night (during the way home) while going 120 km/h and it didn't move a hair. It was like a cement barricade in the box.

 

I let it warm up inside the box for a day, then took it out the next day, almost got 50hrs of slides on it and it's miiiiiiiiiiiiiint. October build.

 

So....you could go through all the trouble I did (which wasn't trouble at all it took me about 20 mins to build it all) or you could rent a Uhaul van and strap it upright to the side (this is what I would suggest you do if you don't have a pickup)

 

 100 bucks to get a van rental for the evening isn't a big deal when you dropped over 3G's on a tv.

post #7450 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Mike204 View Post


I just picked mine up from the states and drove it back to Canada in -18 in the back of my pickup with a blizzard raging, I was going 120km/h+ the whole time.

I used a 4' x 8' sheet of .5" thick plywood and then built 24"W x 40"H brackets out of plywood and studs, I then screwed the plywood/stud brackets to the 4' x 8' plywood sheet.

So basically the TV was loaded into the back of the truck upright and pushed against the 2 brackets on the right side. I then slid the other 2 brackets on the left side up tight against the tv and screwed those into the plywood sheet on the bottom.

I then made a U out of wood and it connected both the back brackets together while going around the backside of the tv to prevent it from sliding.

I then mounted a 2 x 4 stud at the bottom of the TV up snug and screwed that into the plywood sheet.


Lastly, I then used 3 ratchet straps, 2 on top and one on the back to snug it down as one big piece to the box.


In conclusion, -18 for 2 hours, during blizzard at night (during the way home) while going 120 km/h and it didn't move a hair. It was like a cement barricade in the box.

I let it warm up inside the box for a day, then took it out the next day, almost got 50hrs of slides on it and it's miiiiiiiiiiiiiint. October build.

So....you could go through all the trouble I did (which wasn't trouble at all it took me about 20 mins to build it all) or you could rent a Uhaul van and strap it upright to the side (this is what I would suggest you do if you don't have a pickup)

 100 bucks to get a van rental for the evening isn't a big deal when you dropped over 3G's on a tv.

We Canucks are a very resourceful bunch. Congrats on your new ZT60! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by chillspace View Post


We Canucks are a very resourceful bunch. Congrats on your new ZT60! smile.gif

 

 

Hahaha, that we are!!!

 

How's the winter over in Calgary this year? 

 

I won't lie, Alberta has a special place in my heart....(I used to work up in Grande Prairie in the oilfields)

post #7452 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Mike204 View Post


Hahaha, that we are!!!

How's the winter over in Calgary this year? 

I won't lie, Alberta has a special place in my heart....(I used to work up in Grande Prairie in the oilfields)

Here is another Canuck doing the ZT run for the border (60ZT60). I need to go check again, but I was sure this would fit in my minivan with one of the 2nd row seats removed. The 65" box length had me a bit concerned, but 60 should be ok.
post #7453 of 11460
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Originally Posted by Mike204 View Post


Hahaha, that we are!!!

How's the winter over in Calgary this year? 

I won't lie, Alberta has a special place in my heart....(I used to work up in Grande Prairie in the oilfields)

We did get a lot of snow in December but you know how Calgary is, we get chinook winds all the time. Today we're getting a balmy 7C and the weekend we could hit positive double digits. I'm not complaining smile.gif Feeling bad about the folks on the eastern seaboard. They're getting winter pretty hard over there.
post #7454 of 11460
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Originally Posted by synaptech View Post

Here is another Canuck doing the ZT run for the border (60ZT60). I need to go check again, but I was sure this would fit in my minivan with one of the 2nd row seats removed. The 65" box length had me a bit concerned, but 60 should be ok.

The box is substantially bigger than the TV itself. I'd take extra care if you're going to transport without the box. Either way, get it home safely and enjoy it. This display, by far has the best picture quality I've come across. The blacks are inky black and I my scheduled pro calibration is yet to happen (Feb 21), which I expect will make the picture even better.
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getting Netflix 1080 super HD using the ZT app and a Powerline Ethernet connection

question: can a power surge fry my ZT via the powerline ethernet connection?
post #7456 of 11460
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Originally Posted by synaptech View Post


Here is another Canuck doing the ZT run for the border (60ZT60). I need to go check again, but I was sure this would fit in my minivan with one of the 2nd row seats removed. The 65" box length had me a bit concerned, but 60 should be ok.

 

Hahaha, best of luck on your journey!!! If the TV is in a cold storage or an unheated parcel pickup, I'd caution you to not power it on. Just take off the top of the box and use a flashlight (used my iphone flash) and go around the perimeter of the glass and check the corners. If it's all good, just pack it back up and take it home. Make sure you leave it in the box to warm up as you don't want to warm it up too fast. (if it's in a heated van, then that'l help alot)

 

Amazon has the size of the box at - 12.2 x 55.3 x 36.3 inches.  They boxed my tv in a second amazon box so after removing the second box it was exact to the 65" dimensions on the site.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by chillspace View Post


We did get a lot of snow in December but you know how Calgary is, we get chinook winds all the time. Today we're getting a balmy 7C and the weekend we could hit positive double digits. I'm not complaining smile.gif Feeling bad about the folks on the eastern seaboard. They're getting winter pretty hard over there.

 

Yea, that's what I've been reading, poor guys!!!  Over here in Winterpeg, we're back to -30 in the morning with -40 or worse for windchill. MAKES YA FEEL ALIVE! hahaha.

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Did the latest 2.73 October 2013 firmware update for the ZT60/65 modify the fan speed and quiet the fans?
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Originally Posted by PaulBennetts View Post

Did the latest 2.73 October 2013 firmware update for the ZT60/65 modify the fan speed and quiet the fans?


I do not believe that Oct. is the latest firmware:

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america_2013/down_na_03.html


Improvements
Date/Version Description

Dec. 3, 2013 Ver. 2.873 - Improve system stability.

Oct. 1, 2013 Ver. 2.864 - Introduce Home Screen Collection.

Sep. 10, 2013 Ver. 2.858 - Improvement of Web browser.
post #7459 of 11460
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Originally Posted by tim leonhardt View Post

getting Netflix 1080 super HD using the ZT app and a Powerline Ethernet connection

question: can a power surge fry my ZT via the powerline ethernet connection?

Yes.
post #7460 of 11460
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Originally Posted by colnago View Post

I do not believe that Oct. is the latest firmware:

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america_2013/down_na_03.html


Improvements
Date/Version Description

Dec. 3, 2013 Ver. 2.873 - Improve system stability.

Oct. 1, 2013 Ver. 2.864 - Introduce Home Screen Collection.

Sep. 10, 2013 Ver. 2.858 - Improvement of Web browser.

Thank you. I did the firmware update yesterday and the TV said I had the latest update from October. Perhaps the Dec. 2013 update was published since yesterday.
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It looks like in North America, Ver 2.873 was released in October.

 

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Ver 2.873 is what my set has.
post #7463 of 11460
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Originally Posted by PaulBennetts View Post

Did the latest 2.73 October 2013 firmware update for the ZT60/65 modify the fan speed and quiet the fans?

Nope! It's a hardware issue!
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Nope! It's a hardware issue!
Fan speed can affect the noise--just listen to how much the noise increases when you enter the service menu--but you're right that it's almost entirely due to hardware.
Edited by repete66211 - 1/23/14 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

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Originally Posted by PaulBennetts View Post

Did the latest 2.73 October 2013 firmware update for the ZT60/65 modify the fan speed and quiet the fans?

Nope! It's a hardware issue!

"Issue" for some, not for others.

P.s. wse- I aspire to also have 802s as "surrounds"...but honestly, a pair for "mains" would suffice (just picked up pair of 805N last weekend after 20 year wait/saving).
Edited by colnago - 1/23/14 at 9:52am
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Still debating buying one. Is everyone happy with the luminance levels (brightness) of the ZT ? I dont expect it to be like led but I've hear people on other forums complaining that it's not bright enough compared to the samsung plasma. Any input? Thanks
post #7467 of 11460
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Originally Posted by rjchyzy View Post

Still debating buying one. Is everyone happy with the luminance levels (brightness) of the ZT ? I dont expect it to be like led but I've hear people on other forums complaining that it's not bright enough compared to the samsung plasma. Any input? Thanks

Happy with mine, which is in a windowed basement. Debating on picking up a 2nd for "bright" living room, where the 700U which was replaced by the first ZT is currently residing. I have to close the drapes for the 700U, because of the direct sun on panel in early morning. Considering VT for the size (55" would just fit better in space), but not sure if reflections will be too bad, even though the VT is supposedly "brighter". Closing the drapes eliminates the problem "for the most part", along with the fact that I'm only in the room during the problem hours on weekends, if at all. Brightness in the basement with the curtains open on the ZT is fine.
post #7468 of 11460

Hey, shout out to Colnago and David,

Thank you for the very important info.

I'm definitely going to hard wire this thing. 

post #7469 of 11460
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Nope! It's a hardware issue!

Fan speed should still be tweakable by changing the temperature ranges that it will ramp up at and/or regulating the voltage to the fan via software.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
 

Hey, shout out to Colnago and David,

Thank you for the very important info.

I'm definitely going to hard wire this thing. 


You're welcome. It's what Panasonic recommends even though they throw in the wifi capability. They know how data intensive streaming is. I'll be doing the same shortly too.

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