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post #3211 of 14765
Xbox One is Xbox One Eighty. Possibly dropping always on and the DRM.
post #3212 of 14765
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Xbox One is Xbox One Eighty. Possibly dropping always on and the DRM.

That would make it half as powerful as the 360.
post #3213 of 14765
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Originally Posted by gpthree View Post

That would make it half as powerful as the 360.

Or worse yet debunk all the progress and evolution in gaming argued for here in the last few weeks. smile.gif
post #3214 of 14765
So the people in this thread arguing "progress" and "Evolution" are going to have to buy something else then if true.

I hope it is true, the massive scale of negative press surely has them considering what to do. Supposedly even Jimmy Fallon had some jab against them on late night tv last night (pretty sure he has quite a large following).
post #3215 of 14765
But I thought DRM = Future rolleyes.gif
post #3216 of 14765
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Steam offers cheap games, and plenty of them. It has cut-price sales, and both new games and old are attractively priced. Anybody who’s ever taken a cursory glance at Xbox 360’s games on demand service will know that this does not apply to console digital downloads. And as long as Microsoft still has a crucial relationship with retailers, that’s not going to change.

This statement makes it sound as though XBL DDs are never discounted, which is quite simply a bald-faced lie, obviously written by someone who's never "taken a cursory glance at Xbox 360’s games on demand service". Games and DLC go on sale all of the time, generally some every week, typically 50%-75% off. As was pointed out, Gears of War Judgement released 2 or 3 months ago, was just added to Games on Demand yesterday for $10 less than GameStop wants for a used copy (though you can find used copies for much less), $8 less than Amazon's current new price. Most if not all games eventually hit $20 or less as Platinum hits (often without even being labelled as such); there's a ton of GonD DDs available at these prices. (Unfortunately you can't sort GonD by price at Xbox.com, but you can click the "Cost" heading on this list to do it). Admittedly, things are rarely available for $5 or $6 dollars as they apparently are on Steam, but occasionally they do. Despite the sage testimony of the many armchair business theorists in this thread I fully expect that the same sort of discounting of Xbox One games will occur. You can ludicrously keep aging-or-unpopular titles at release price and watch sales gradually grind to a halt, or you can drop the prices and continue to profit.

Some people in this thread keep reiterating the lie that you won't be able to trade the titles you buy on discs, when the truth is that you won't be able to trade the games that you buy on used discs, and will only be able to trade the new ones via narrowly defined processes.
post #3217 of 14765
But then what will the people trolling in here complain about if it's true?
post #3218 of 14765
It is unlikely you ever see a publisher implement DRM on the XBOX One and for good reason

Microsoft saying they are leaving it up to the publishers is the truth, but they leave out the fact is that Microsoft is already forcing DRM on every physical title regardless of what the publishers do . This is why you are required to connect every 24 hours or getting a brick. They can call it a "Check for new software" but it is DRM validating your existing software.

The publishers can implement additional DRM if they wish, but since MS is is already enforcing DRM on their own there is no reason I see for any publishers to waste their money and implement additional DRM measures.
post #3219 of 14765
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Originally Posted by rdperry View Post

Man would this be fantastic or what?
No... it would be pandering and would pretty much ensure that there will be zero motivation for developers to use the cloud-based functions, so you could say goodbye to everything we've heard about the advancements in AI. I hope they stick to their guns so we're not stuck in the same old mire as the current generation.
post #3220 of 14765
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Originally Posted by americangunner View Post

Just saw this on another site, but I have no idea if it is legit or not:

http://www.whathifi.com/news/microsoft-to-back-track-on-xbox-one-games-drm-and-always-online

If this is true we could say goodbye to some of the features they announced. Disc will be required and the family share will most likely not happen.
post #3221 of 14765
I would consider cancelling my pre-order if MS back-peddled. Because if they do then they no longer have advantage to offer over the PS4.
post #3222 of 14765
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Anderson View Post

No... it would be pandering and would pretty much ensure that there will be zero motivation for developers to use the cloud-based functions, so you could say goodbye to everything we've heard about the advancements in AI. I hope they stick to their guns so we're not stuck in the same old mire as the current generation.

Forza's Drivatar functionality can work just like it does with Dragon's Dogma this generation.
post #3223 of 14765
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Originally Posted by mboojigga View Post

If this is true we could say goodbye to some of the features they announced. Disc will be required and the family share will most likely not happen.

I was about to say the same thing. I'd much rather have those features. I dont care about giving someone a physical disc.
post #3224 of 14765
They must really be hurting.. I will likely preorder an XB1 if they reverse.
post #3225 of 14765
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Anderson View Post

No... it would be pandering and would pretty much ensure that there will be zero motivation for developers to use the cloud-based functions, so you could say goodbye to everything we've heard about the advancements in AI. I hope they stick to their guns so we're not stuck in the same old mire as the current generation.
^^^What he said.

I respect those who disagree, but I'm excited by what the so-called "limitations" will bring to the XB1. I'm tired of the status quo and if they backtrack, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with the status quo for this generation as well. From my perspective you're either moving forward, backwards or standing still. I think MS should exhibit courage, stick with their convictions and move us forward.
post #3226 of 14765
I am not going to hold my breath for this announcement. In fact I will be rather bummed if they do go back on their original plans. As others have said, surely it will mean changes or outright removing some of the features they had planned for the Xbox One.
post #3227 of 14765
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Originally Posted by samendolaro View Post

They must really be hurting.. I will likely preorder an XB1 if they reverse.

Same here.
post #3228 of 14765
No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


is it christmas
post #3229 of 14765
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Originally Posted by gpthree View Post

I was about to say the same thing. I'd much rather have those features. I dont care about giving someone a physical disc.
Yup. I want the features they've announced. And I'm pretty sure gaming sites would have heard about a reversal of that nature long before a hi-fi website. Stick to your guns, Microsoft. Pandering is what the other guy does.
post #3230 of 14765
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Anderson View Post

No... it would be pandering and would pretty much ensure that there will be zero motivation for developers to use the cloud-based functions, so you could say goodbye to everything we've heard about the advancements in AI. I hope they stick to their guns so we're not stuck in the same old mire as the current generation.
I call it giving the people what they want. Why would those features have to go away?
post #3231 of 14765
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Originally Posted by americangunner View Post

Just saw this on another site, but I have no idea if it is legit or not:

http://www.whathifi.com/news/microsoft-to-back-track-on-xbox-one-games-drm-and-always-online

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Let's hope thats confirmed!
post #3232 of 14765
if it's true, it seems like the family plan might be in danger... frown.gif
post #3233 of 14765
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Originally Posted by samendolaro View Post

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


is it christmas

-Most likely no more family/friend game sharing,
-No possibilities of forcing industry to change its ways and lower price of games,
-And worst of all........Gamestop wins.
post #3234 of 14765
It's probably Sony spreading the rumors so that when it doesn't happen, it makes MS look worse.
post #3235 of 14765
DRM at the moment requires an authentication check once per 24 hours, which means it is NOT an ALWAYS 24/7 online system. Why wouldn't the "Cloud POWAH" be utilized if the people didn't require this authentication check? It's not like they were supposed to be online every second they were playing the game anyway, whoever decides to keep being online with or without this DRM will be able to use it.
post #3236 of 14765
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Originally Posted by samendolaro View Post

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


is it christmas

Yeah, Christmas 2001. Yay! rolleyes.gif
post #3237 of 14765
http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

That's the link the "journalists" are saying confirms it.
post #3238 of 14765
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Originally Posted by Myrtledog View Post

It's probably Sony spreading the rumors so that when it doesn't happen, it makes MS look worse.

LOL! it would be hard to look worse at this point.
post #3239 of 14765
Wow, this is spreading in a hurry, and now MS is updating the Xbox Q&A page

http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310
Edited by J_P_A - 6/19/13 at 1:37pm
post #3240 of 14765
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Anderson View Post

No... it would be pandering and would pretty much ensure that there will be zero motivation for developers to use the cloud-based functions, so you could say goodbye to everything we've heard about the advancements in AI. I hope they stick to their guns so we're not stuck in the same old mire as the current generation.

So now DRM and forced licensing is a requirement to utilize the cloud?

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Stop. Just stop.
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