I remember this... Quote:
Originally Posted by samendolaro I'm all for new and innovative. Thats a good thing. The Kinect 2 is awesome engineering and something I want. But I can't get past giving up ownership of my games .
You are basically leasing the opportunity to play a game for as long as it is convenient for them to allow you. Microsoft has become the landlord and one day will just kick you out .
Innovation has nothing to do with this. This is revenue generation .
ok, and this is where we are now?...predictable? Unfortunately, yes.
Originally Posted by samendolaro
Both companies don't have the exclusives I want coming out this year but both companies have exclusives i want. I also like the XB1's additional cable and Kinect features.,
The games i do want which are coming out this year will be available on both consoles.Now that MS has reversed their stance I will be getting an XB1, it wasn't even an option in its previous state.
I am thinking that I will stick with the PS4 for now since I can get the PS4 & BF4 for less then XB1+BF4. I also want to wait to see how the XB1 test units perform. I am weary about the rev1 units since I got hit on the 360 with the RROD. I am also waiting to see if there was an actual overheating issue with the esram which forced a downclock (we don't know that yet) if so I will wait for the next revision to be released before I pick one up. if there are no issues with early adopters within 6 months i will pick one up then.
Currently there no reason to purchase both consoles day one since the release games are pretty much the same, kinect adds value but not for the release games and both consoles have the chance of having rev1 problems. I think the less complex Ps4 is a safer and cheaper initial bet at this point.
But things can still change between now and launch day
Originally Posted by samendolaro It really does seem like MS put much more engineering time into the TV and Kinect 2.0 then they did the base hardware.
The base hardware was designed just to beat what they perceived the ps4 hardware would be and nothing more.
They already lost my day one dollars. I won't buy in for exclusives since they are few and far between. If MS ever intends on winning me or the other people they lost they need to show exactly why I should pay more for a system with less power and hardware I do not need .
I am pretty spin proof these days so hopefully they start the honest approach.
You know, samendolaro
is just one guy--but there are others on here that thought it was great that Microsoft changed their new console's features, because otherwise there was no way they'd buy it...how many of them are still expressing reservations? Didn't we all suspect they'd just come up with other reasons? It's almost like a sickness--they can't stop...this disappoints me because although I'm usually up for a debate, and confronting or pointing out FUD, this board discourages it. So now, for the first time in all the years I've used this board, I'm actually considering using the ignore feature on the usual suspects.
Since Microsoft went back on the disc-less features, just about every time a coworker and I discuss it, I tell him how I suspect that those people that yelled the loudest, or spread the most FUD, were probably never going to pre-order the Xbox One anyway, if buy it at all--so I hope they didn't make that decision based on initial pre-orders. Seriously, I watched all the internets high five each other and congratulate one another, and then turn right around and begin the FUD anew...or you know, out of sincere concern for the gamer, advising against pre-ordering the Xbox One--you never can tell what Microsoft will do to you next!
Before the change, what I suspected would happen is, over time, people would figure out the advantages to the new system--or find out there's nothing to fear, it would just require a bit of an adjustment--and Xbox One would gradually increase it's market share. Honestly, I think many at Microsoft believed the same, but what happened was they made a bunch of promises to bridge the gap to some of those concerns(used game buying and selling, sharing, and whatever else they were promising, to put out fires), and the logistics of it all smacked them upside the head. They probably weren't going to be able to implement that stuff in a timely manner, and regardless what they say about not charging a fee--someone had to pay to set up a system to allow a used disc to be checked...no one was going to buy a disc that wasn't verified as "disassociated". So yeah, it was easier to just revert to an Xbox 360 system, than to get called out when they didn't deliver on those promises by launch--which would've put them in more hot water.
Some people are reporting both consoles are at their pre-order limits. I think Microsoft could've gotten there without the changes, but it would've required more effort and better communication on their part.