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post #14851 of 15283
I personally can't stand the little map... looks like crap usually and takes up too much of the screen. Might as well double-box.

I assume the station managers feel the same way and that's why they don't do it.
post #14852 of 15283
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3. If you go to the UNC-TV web site, you can get program listings. There is also some program info included in the PSIP.
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I just wish I could view programming live like all the other OTA stations do frown.gif
post #14853 of 15283
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A couple of mutterings:
1. With the Olympics on presently I am reminded how much I miss the OTA sub channel that was Olympic sport oriented sports. You would have thought it would bring in revenue all around but I guess it was politics that killed it.

During the 2010 winter games, I seem to remember that they did not throw OTA viewers a bone & show Olympic sports live on that channel. I remember seeing 4-month old re-runs of similar winter sports from pre-olympic competitions.

Drew
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Originally Posted by AndThenScottSays View Post

I personally can't stand the little map... looks like crap usually and takes up too much of the screen. Might as well double-box.
I assume the station managers feel the same way and that's why they don't do it.

I do not care for the crawl, and I will turn the channel if it keeps going. A static image is much easier to take than something floating constantly on the program. The station manager needs to do as the FCC says, and as their meteorologist suggest. They were hired to do a proper job. Did the station manager go to school on how to alert the public to deadly storms? The people want a radar.
post #14855 of 15283
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I do not care for the crawl, and I will turn the channel if it keeps going. A static image is much easier to take than something floating constantly on the program. The station manager needs to do as the FCC says, and as their meteorologist suggest. They were hired to do a proper job. Did the station manager go to school on how to alert the public to deadly storms? The people want a radar.

Having moved, I have to say that I really miss the WRAL crawl where they squish the picture by 150 pixels or so to make room for the crawl. I could easily setup a display mode in my PVR extender where I could zoom the vertical to just get rid of the crawl, and have a perfect aspect ratio. None of the broadcasters here in Richmond are so nice .. Their crawls are over the picture. I usually turn the channel or watch on Hulu if I cannot remove the crawl.
Drew
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Having moved, I have to say that I really miss the WRAL crawl where they squish the picture by 150 pixels or so to make room for the crawl. I could easily setup a display mode in my PVR extender where I could zoom the vertical to just get rid of the crawl, and have a perfect aspect ratio. None of the broadcasters here in Richmond are so nice .. Their crawls are over the picture. I usually turn the channel or watch on Hulu if I cannot remove the crawl.
Drew

All the crawls except for WRAL's on every other station are over the picture. It actually doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the crawl racing across saying the same thing over and over. After running the crawl twice, turn it off, and use the static box with color coded warning on the county with the radar. Simple, and doesn't take up the bottom of the screen, and doesn't make people trying to watch a program not be able to pay attention for that scroll. If there are 10 or 15 counties in a warning at one time, the crawl never catches up!
post #14857 of 15283
Wow I have never seen the crawl over the picture. I typically would stretch the picture to get rid of it. when it was on the bottom of the screen.
post #14858 of 15283
When my locals put up that black or blue line, I also just adjust my picture to get it off a lot of times. The text and images of all the stations are put on top of the picture on every station I have seen in central and eastern NC, like we said above with the exception of WRAL, who pushes the picture upward from the bottom and then inserts the black line and text message in the space underneath the program.
post #14859 of 15283
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I just wish I could view programming live like all the other OTA stations do frown.gif

 

I guess I don't understand what you mean about not being able to view WUNC (PBS) in the same way that you view other stations OTA. Sometimes public TV stations do not always follow the suggested schedule for programming that PBS provides. PBS just provides the programming to stations and gives suggested time slots, but the stations get to decide when to air the shows. UNC-TV shows quite a bit of locally produced shows that deal with North Carolina. Frankly, I think they overdo it a bit.

post #14860 of 15283
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

I guess I don't understand what you mean about not being able to view WUNC (PBS) in the same way that you view other stations OTA. Sometimes public TV stations do not always follow the suggested schedule for programming that PBS provides. PBS just provides the programming to stations and gives suggested time slots, but the stations get to decide when to air the shows. UNC-TV shows quite a bit of locally produced shows that deal with North Carolina. Frankly, I think they overdo it a bit.

It is WUNC specifically I am referring to. I have no problem with their programming it is fine with me.

I am talking about clicking on Info or Guide or whatever other button you can push on your remote that tells your TV or whatever other ATSC Tuner to display some info about the show you are presently watching.

I can click on info for most any other OTA channel that I receive and get some text info about the show I am watching. But when I am watching WUNC I get "No Information" or something similar to that displayed.

I am talking info that is sent OTA, Not cable or sat or Internet tv guide info.
post #14861 of 15283
Directv adding more HD channels

Directv has 5 new HD channels up in testing.

NatGeo Wild HD
Disney Jr HD
BBC America HD
Ion East HD
BeIN sports HD

Channels are generally up in test mode for a week. Look for the channels to be added as soon as next Wednesday.

Directv also has WUVC 40 and WRDC 28 up in HD testing.
post #14862 of 15283
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

I guess I don't understand what you mean about not being able to view WUNC (PBS) in the same way that you view other stations OTA. Sometimes public TV stations do not always follow the suggested schedule for programming that PBS provides. PBS just provides the programming to stations and gives suggested time slots, but the stations get to decide when to air the shows. UNC-TV shows quite a bit of locally produced shows that deal with North Carolina. Frankly, I think they overdo it a bit.

It is WUNC specifically I am referring to. I have no problem with their programming it is fine with me.

I am talking about clicking on Info or Guide or whatever other button you can push on your remote that tells your TV or whatever other ATSC Tuner to display some info about the show you are presently watching.

I can click on info for most any other OTA channel that I receive and get some text info about the show I am watching. But when I am watching WUNC I get "No Information" or something similar to that displayed.

I am talking info that is sent OTA, Not cable or sat or Internet tv guide info.

 

That is strange. When I watch WUNC (virtual channel 4, RF 25) OTA, that information is available by pushing a button on the remote, just as it is for all of the other stations, such as WRAL. Sometimes in takes a few seconds for the info to appear, though. Initially when I press the button the display may say "No Program Information" but if I wait a few seconds, the info appears.

 

Are you watching RF 25 (virtual channel 4 from Chapel Hill), or are you watching the translator from Garner (RF 30, I think, which displays as virtual 25)?

post #14863 of 15283
I am receiving program info on UNC-TV33 from Asheville, RF25 here in Greenville, SC. Although currently no description is provided for War program on 33.1. But info is there on 33.2 Kids and 33.3. However, SCETV on RF9 Channel 29.1 does provide info for War program on PBS.
post #14864 of 15283
And now I am seeing WUNC program info also. I could not find any PBS show that was not providing it last night.

I am getting the OTA feed out of Chapel Hill.

I will try holding the info button longer. Maybe that was my issue in the past.

I definitely have seen it plenty of times in the past with "No Information" but than I did not press and hold smile.gif
post #14865 of 15283
I have never had a problem with WUNC programming data, either via Directv (WUNL Winston-Salem) , OTA (WUNC Chapel Hill), or the AM21 tuner (both), not even with UNC-MX on the AM21 (on the AM21, 26-5 is UNC-MX program data, although obviously unwatchable. Handy for those of us with UNC-MX on QAM to have the programming info at least viewable on the guide... I wish it showed as 4.4 like it does on QAM, but I guess I shouldn't be so picky)
post #14866 of 15283
Has anybody else on time warner lost their "clear" broadcast of 17.1? I haven't been able to tune it all day.

Edit: It has been re-mapped to 84.2. Strange. I wonder if this is just a temporary problem.
Edited by flyingillini - 8/22/12 at 5:38pm
post #14867 of 15283
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Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post

Has anybody else on time warner lost their "clear" broadcast of 17.1? I haven't been able to tune it all day.
Edit: It has been re-mapped to 84.2. Strange. I wonder if this is just a temporary problem.
Who knows why these cable cos. always move around the clear qam locals, and what channel # they correspond to. You have to do a complete, time consuming rescan to retune in order to find 17.1 again, as you do not always know the direct input RF#. That's why I use OTA for all HD regional/local channels. And they keep saying that free clear qam locals may go away, requiring an HD set top box and higher fees. So my advice is always use an antenna to supplement cable. Where possible.
post #14868 of 15283
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Who knows why these cable cos. always move around the clear qam locals, and what channel # they correspond to. You have to do a complete, time consuming rescan to retune in order to find 17.1 again, as you do not always know the direct input RF#. That's why I use OTA for all HD regional/local channels. And they keep saying that free clear qam locals may go away, requiring an HD set top box and higher fees. So my advice is always use an antenna to supplement cable. Where possible.

The truth behind it is not like some people say that the cable co. has it out for QAM viewers the cable company moves the clear QAM channels around like they do the encrypted ones for better bandwidth management usually TWC will move a channel to digital and they will move something around to fill in the cleared analog spot with a QAM carrier. Also since TWC is heavily vested in SDV they are having to move clear QAM channels to frequencies that are not in the expanded basic trap so they have to remove channels from the basic tier and move the clear QAM channels down into low channels usually from 2-30 at most due to having so many SDV, DOCSIS, VOD QAMs that are slowly consuming all the bandwidth from 550MHz to 750MHz on most system and from 550MHz to 860MHz in 860MHz systems. Basically TWC needs to move QAMs around to manage bandwidth better more than likely if you see snow on channels in the expanded basic trap area of channels 2x-7x range of channels they have a QAM carrier on the already carrying digital channels or are reserved for digital channels in the future.
post #14869 of 15283

Sorry, but I can't shed any tears for the cable companies over what clear QAM for the local stations does to bandwidth management plans.

 

There are only ten local stations in this market (25 if you count subchannels). Reserve a place for them (and for the CSPAN channels) in the QAM lineup and leave them there forever.

 

The cable companies are essentially monopolies within their service areas (satellite is only slight competition), and they rake in money hand over fist from selling phone service and internet service in addition to TV service, so they just need to straighten up and fly right. And stop treating longtime customers worse than new customers.

 

I would like to see OTA make a comeback and have the cable companies just turn into ISPs.

post #14870 of 15283
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

Sorry, but I can't shed any tears for the cable companies over what clear QAM for the local stations does to bandwidth management plans.

There are only ten local stations in this market (25 if you count subchannels). Reserve a place for them (and for the CSPAN channels) in the QAM lineup and leave them there forever.

The cable companies are essentially monopolies within their service areas (satellite is only slight competition), and they rake in money hand over fist from selling phone service and internet service in addition to TV service, so they just need to straighten up and fly right. And stop treating longtime customers worse than new customers.

I would like to see OTA make a comeback and have the cable companies just turn into ISPs.

That is unrealistic as you do realize that it not possible to do that until all analogs and the expanded basic traps are removed. There is not enough contiguous bandwidth that is not dedicated to two way services such as VOD, SDV, internet to keep them constant and not move them also TWC is nationwide slowly moving to 24 QAM freqencies dedicated to SDV and 6 or more internet QAM frequencies and to make room they are moving local QAM channels to lower channels nationwide. On my system in North Texas TWC has QAMs on 111MHz, 129MHz, 153MHz, 243MHz, 249MHz that are below that expanded basic trap that carry local clear QAM channels. Also moving clear QAM channels down in that range allows for the cable company to prevent passive theft of clear QAM on internet only accounts that can have a trap put on the line that passes everything above 70 something or so and those channels become unavailable for internet only customers.

My market has these clear QAM channels that are trapped out to Internet only subs:

KDFW HD
KXAS HD
KDFI HD
KXAS HD
KDAF HD
KXTX HD
KAZD HD
KPXD HD
KUVN HD
KSTR HD
Government Access1
Government Access 2
Public Access
Educational Access 1
Educational Access 2
Educational Access 3
EAS channel
DFW Non Stop (KXAS DT2)
Antenna TV (KDAF DT2)

There are only 4 HD clear QAM channels that above the internet only trap range:

KTXA HD
KTVT HD
WFAA HD
KERA HD
post #14871 of 15283
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Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post

Has anybody else on time warner lost their "clear" broadcast of 17.1? I haven't been able to tune it all day.
Edit: It has been re-mapped to 84.2. Strange. I wonder if this is just a temporary problem.

17.1 (WNCN) has completely dropped off the map for me. I did two rescans and it still doesn't show up anymore frown.gif
post #14872 of 15283
Sounds like it's antenna time! wink.gif Maybe go down to TW, and get an HD box. They might make some kind of deal for a good price. Won't hurt to try.
post #14873 of 15283
Living in Garner, wouldn't a paper clip do the trick?
post #14874 of 15283
17.1 mysteriously reappeared this afternoon. Weird.
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Living in Garner, wouldn't a paper clip do the trick?

I don't get it?

That being said, Burlington is my hometown. Cummings HS class of '98.
post #14875 of 15283
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

Sorry, but I can't shed any tears for the cable companies over what clear QAM for the local stations does to bandwidth management plans. Reserve a place for them (and for the CSPAN channels) in the QAM lineup and leave them there forever. The cable companies are essentially monopolies within their service areas (satellite is only slight competition), and they rake in money hand over fist from selling phone service and internet service in addition to TV service, so they just need to straighten up and fly right. And stop treating longtime customers worse than new customers.

I couldn't have said it better myself. And while there may be complexities with bandwidth, there should be the intent or goal of reserving a place for clear QAM for local stations and leaving them alone.
post #14876 of 15283
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

17.1 mysteriously reappeared this afternoon. Weird.
I don't get it?
That being said, Burlington is my hometown. Cummings HS class of '98.

The TV tower is right there, so you should be able to use an indoor aerial, or even yet, just try sticking a paper clip in the antenna/coax connector of the TV, and go to the menu and change tuner from cable to antenna mode.
post #14877 of 15283
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Originally Posted by jspENC View Post

Sounds like it's antenna time! wink.gif Maybe go down to TW, and get an HD box. They might make some kind of deal for a good price. Won't hurt to try.

Ah, but I don't have tv service :-D I only have internet service, these channels are just freebies above the trap. I have a Mohu leaf (11.1 is trapped), but it sometimes doesn't get in all the channels either. I'm just too lazy to set it up in the attic. Perhaps it is time to do that.
post #14878 of 15283

There's a Class A station, WZGS, broadcasting an analog signal on RF 44.

Does anybody know anything about that station?

post #14879 of 15283
It's the Telemundo affiliate.

- Trip
post #14880 of 15283

I think WZGS must have been off the air for a long time.

It popped up only a week or so ago when I was doing a channel scan.

A couple of days ago it was showing John Glenn giving a speech at a NASA gathering.

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