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post #841 of 2227
Hey all,
Just set up my A1030 and have run into a snag that I can't seem to figure out. Only have one thing hooked up to the Yammy, which is my old XBox 360. I have component video and optical audio from the XBox (it's an original unit so no HDMI) connected to the Yammy via component input #3 and AV optical #3. My projector is hooked up via HDMI and I have my separate 7 channel amp hooked up to the pre-out connections.

Here's the issue. I am seeing everything perfectly, regardless of input, but I cannot get any sound.

Here's what I've tried.
  • I connected a DVD player via component connections and standard audio. I got video, but no sound.
  • I connected the DVD player's audio out to several different audio in jacks on the Yammy. No sound.
  • I connected the DVD player's audio out to the Yammy front panel audio in. No sound.

I'm at a loss as to why I can't get sound. My best guess is that the Yammy isn't sending audio via the pre-outs. I'm hoping someone here can help me because I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure this out and I can't come up with any good ideas. All I'm doing is going bald, faster.

**********EDIT**********

Problem SOLVED.
For those who may have the same issue, here's what worked for me. I lowered the volume until the LCD display read "Mute" then I raised the volume again. That seems to have done the trick, because now I have sound on every input. Perhaps going to mute reset something internally, or maybe connecting online and updating the firmware would have also solved the problem (haven't had a chance to connect it to the net yet), but at least it's working correctly now.

**********END EDIT**********
Edited by MightyGeekMan - 11/16/13 at 11:05pm
post #842 of 2227
Hey folks,

So, what's the verdict on the CX-A5000? I have sold my Marantz 8801, and will either get the Yammy, or an Anthem D2 with Arc....

Anyone running into "hum" problems plugging the unit into balanced amps? I tend to get a ground loop hum that's problematic, and some preamps seem to work better than others. Integrat was always a problem, Marantz not so much - just curious what others are experiencing with the A5000? I am running pro Crown (XLS 402) amps.

Best,

Stieger
post #843 of 2227
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Originally Posted by stieger View Post

Hey folks,

So, what's the verdict on the CX-A5000? I have sold my Marantz 8801, and will either get the Yammy, or an Anthem D2 with Arc....

Anyone running into "hum" problems plugging the unit into balanced amps? I tend to get a ground loop hum that's problematic, and some preamps seem to work better than others. Integrat was always a problem, Marantz not so much - just curious what others are experiencing with the A5000? I am running pro Crown (XLS 402) amps.

Best,

Stieger

Just curious - what turned you off on the 8801 and what do you have in mind regarding the Yamaha that sets it apart as a preference?
post #844 of 2227
Always enjoyed Yamaha products and liked the "enhanced" surround modes - always made my room disappear. Nothing wrong with the marantz, fine piece of gear - had always hoped Yamaha would do separates with XLRs so I could use my balanced amps (3000 watts in my room running triads).
post #845 of 2227
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Originally Posted by stieger View Post

Hey folks,

So, what's the verdict on the CX-A5000? I have sold my Marantz 8801, and will either get the Yammy, or an Anthem D2 with Arc....

Anyone running into "hum" problems plugging the unit into balanced amps? I tend to get a ground loop hum that's problematic, and some preamps seem to work better than others. Integrat was always a problem, Marantz not so much - just curious what others are experiencing with the A5000? I am running pro Crown (XLS 402) amps.

Best,

Stieger

I have my CX-A5000 hooked up with XLRs to my Marantz amplifier with no problems. Also using XLRs as well as HDMI from my Oppo BDP-105. The CX-A5000 is the first AVR I have had to date that I have had absolutely no issues with in my system. It has performed flawlessly from the minute it was plugged in. My only peeve is with the inability to fine-tune the manual PEQ to the exact frequency to counter room modes etc.

Cheers.
post #846 of 2227
I also have my CX-A5000 connected via xlr to two AT ATI amps with no issue and a oppo bdp-95 plugged in via xlr to the xlr audio in. Since 8 Aug when I received my unit I have not had a single issue. This is an outstanding unit IMO.smile.gif
post #847 of 2227
I too have connected my CX-A5000 to my Outlaw Audio amps (7900 and 4 2200s) via XLR cables and have had no hum or other problems. I also have a Sony SCD-1 connected via XLR inputs to the A5000. I am very happy with the CX-A5000.
post #848 of 2227
Same here with my CX-A5000 running in my family room, XLR to RCA to my dual Rotel 1077's. No hum or hiss. Funnily enough I did just sell my 4520 and picked up the 8801 for the dedicated HT though... I'll eventually be swapping the preamps in/out to test XLR on dual Sherbourn's...
post #849 of 2227
Just paid the deposit on a CX-A 5000 which will be here next week. Had originally thought I would go for a cheap Emotiva given 4k is looming but assured that the Yammy will pass it with no problems when 4k finally gets here.

I want to thank you guys especially Smitty ,TKOI and the Master blaster for your responses in this thread. The detailed reviews you posted really helped me make up my mind and were greatly appreciated.
post #850 of 2227
Congrats for not taking the Emotiva, it's not worth the frustration on the audio sync alone. Not to mention the highly inaccurate EmoQ.
post #851 of 2227
Honestly, if 4K matters to you, I would hold off a few months. Current models are not HDMI 2.0 compatible. It is highly unlikely they will be upgradeable. So although they will pass 4K up to 30fps they will almost certainly not handle 4K 50/60fps, which will be used for non movie/drama channels sources, esp. sport. For example, Sky in the UK, who were testing 4K in the summer, said they are waiting for HDMI 2.0 before considering a 4K STB.
Edited by jong1 - 11/23/13 at 5:18am
post #852 of 2227
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

Honestly, if 4K matters to you, I would hold off a few months. Current models are not HDMI 2.0 compatible. It is highly unlikely they will be upgradeable. So although they will pass 4K up to 30fps they will almost certainly not handle 4K 50/60fps, which will be used for non movie/drama channels/sources, esp. sport. For example, Sky in the UK, who were testing 4K in the summer, said they are waiting for HDMI 2.0 before considering a 4K STB.

What are the bandwidth requirements for 4K at 60fps? Seems like they are going to be pretty high.
post #853 of 2227
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post

Honestly, if 4K matters to you, I would hold off a few months. Current models are not HDMI 2.0 compatible. It is highly unlikely they will be upgradeable. So although they will pass 4K up to 30fps they will almost certainly not handle 4K 50/60fps, which will be used for non movie/drama channels/sources, esp. sport. For example, Sky in the UK, who were testing 4K in the summer, said they are waiting for HDMI 2.0 before considering a 4K STB.

How realistic is it to believe that there is going to much 4K material to watch anytime in the next few years?

and I wont even get into the fact of the screen size you need to have so that the human can dicern the resolution



Warren
post #854 of 2227
the bandwidth should be able to be handled by HDMI 1.3b chip. The slew of JVC projectors are able to take upwards to 4K @ 120 Hz and it's using HDMI 1.3 chip. Also in terms of cables, hdmi.org mentioned that as long as you're already use an HDMI 1.4 High Speed of very good quality, there won't be any need to change HDMI cable.
post #855 of 2227
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Originally Posted by john hunter View Post

Just paid the deposit on a CX-A 5000 which will be here next week. Had originally thought I would go for a cheap Emotiva given 4k is looming but assured that the Yammy will pass it with no problems when 4k finally gets here.

I want to thank you guys especially Smitty ,TKOI and the Master blaster for your responses in this thread. The detailed reviews you posted really helped me make up my mind and were greatly appreciated.

Your very welcome, I am sure you will greatly enjoy the unit. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Smitty
post #856 of 2227
Quote:
Originally Posted by john hunter View Post

Just paid the deposit on a CX-A 5000 which will be here next week. Had originally thought I would go for a cheap Emotiva given 4k is looming but assured that the Yammy will pass it with no problems when 4k finally gets here.

I want to thank you guys especially Smitty ,TKOI and the Master blaster for your responses in this thread. The detailed reviews you posted really helped me make up my mind and were greatly appreciated.

Good luck John. Hope you have years of trouble-free high performance. I sure have no regrets.

Cheers.
post #857 of 2227
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

How realistic is it to believe that there is going to much 4K material to watch anytime in the next few years?

and I wont even get into the fact of the screen size you need to have so that the human can dicern the resolution
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

the bandwidth should be able to be handled by HDMI 1.3b chip. The slew of JVC projectors are able to take upwards to 4K @ 120 Hz and it's using HDMI 1.3 chip. Also in terms of cables, hdmi.org mentioned that as long as you're already use an HDMI 1.4 High Speed of very good quality, there won't be any need to change HDMI cable.
I'm also not going to get into the debate on the whether 4K is worthwhile in a given situation. I understand what you are saying, but the poster I was replying to said he wanted a path to 4K.

I think it is very dangerous to assume the current generation can handle 4K 50/60 fps. Just because current cables are supposed to be good enough (and even that is highly debatable over longer cable runs) really does not mean AVRs will be able to pass it. If 4K doesn't bother you, that is just fine, I get it. But if it does you really need to wait for all the vendors to make their intentions clear.

As for content, Netflix have said they will have some probably next year, although it's true theirs may well be 24fps. House of Cards is likely to be first. I firmly expect Sky to have a 4K channel at up to 50/60fps for sport in the next 2-3 years; Well in the lifespan of most AVRs bought now. But yeah, it's not guaranteed

Ps. David, can you show me where it says the JVC can accept 120Hz 4K HDMI; that sounds crazy. Pretty sure that will be the display refresh, i.e. 5x24p, not the source fps.
Edited by jong1 - 11/20/13 at 1:26am
post #858 of 2227
^ I would add to that that I expect 4k Blu-ray to have a larger color gamut than the Rec 709 used in 2K Bd. Hopefully 10 bit Rec 2020. If so all devices in the chain including the AVR will have to be able to process or at least pass thru the signal intact. I do not intend to buy any 4k device until I know what is on the 4k BD spec and whether devices claiming to comply can actually, based upon independent tests, pass or use the signal correctly. Additionally (IMO) given that most households won't buy large enough and/or set close enough to 4k sets to actually see the advantage in resolution a noticeable improvement in color, shadow detail etc will be needed if 4k adoption is to be faster than the normal replacement cycle.
post #859 of 2227
Yes dsinger, you are right. In some ways, for many/most people the improvements in bit depth, maybe color sampling and the expanded color gamut of UHD will be more noticeable than 4K. It would arguably be much easier/cheaper to offer 1080p with the extended gamut, but it really doesn't seem there is any desire in the industry to enhance 1080p Blu-ray to encode with a wider gamut/bitdepth/reduced sub-sampling. That said, in theory, the data rate needed for 4K Rec. 2020, with more bit depth (needed if we don't want worse banding when we expand the gamut) @24p is still within the data rates of HDMI 1.4, so a UHD Blu-ray player SHOULD be able to send 4K movies, with an expanded gamut/bit depth through the current AVRs. Not true for 50/60p material though.

For many none of this matters and that is great, but if anyone is trying to buy stuff now which they want to be sure will work in a "full" UHDTV/4K environment, then now is a particularly bad time for buying! things should be a lot clearer after CES 2014 and even more so by next summer, when hopefully properly certified products start to emerge.
post #860 of 2227
Hello,

I am currently in the market for my first home cinema receiver. I was planning to buy the Rx v775 but after seeing a very good review of the Rx A1030 I am not sure anymore?
Is there really a big difference between those two models ?
Thank you
post #861 of 2227
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Originally Posted by Blutaz View Post

Hello,

I am currently in the market for my first home cinema receiver. I was planning to buy the Rx v775 but after seeing a very good review of the Rx A1030 I am not sure anymore?
Is there really a big difference between those two models ?
Thank you
Yes, the "A" (AVENTAGE) line of Yamaha AVRs are far superior (IMO) musically, DACs, and better power than their "RX" line.
Get the A1030.
(The A830 and up models also have a full pre-out section so you can drive an external multi-channel amp later, thereby future-proofing your system against new speaker purchases. Many run 7.1 systems using an external 5 channel amplifier, driving the extra pair of surrounds with their AVRs built in amp).
post #862 of 2227
Just ordered a CX-A5000 from AVS. Went back and forth between it and the 3030, but ultimately decided it was worth the extra $400.

Will post some thoughts in a couple weeks.
post #863 of 2227
Congrats! Welcome to Yamaha seperates, (it only took them 12 years to release them again) I am sure you'll enjoy it and don't hesitate to post any questions you may have as there are a few of us here that have delved pretty deep into our units and can help you out if needed or asked.smile.gif
post #864 of 2227
Thanks Smitty. I'm sure I will have a few questions. Something tells me the setup wont be quite as simplistic as with my RX-V1700. smile.gif
post #865 of 2227
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Originally Posted by Civik99si View Post

Thanks Smitty. I'm sure I will have a few questions. Something tells me the setup wont be quite as simplistic as with my RX-V1700. smile.gif

Here is a quick tip, use the pro contractor menu to do the majority of your input/output and HDMI options setup. You can access this by opening a web browser of a pc connected to the same network as your CX-A5000 and typing it's IP address followed by /setup. Its a great and allows the naming, assigning of inputs, HDMI configuration and default DSP's for each input and allows you to do a total configuration of your unit using it's GUI. Here is an example;

172.30.3.21/setup

Another Tip is to set the IP address to static and assign it an IP of your choice. I found that by doing that my I-Pad and android devices were able to communicate with it better plus they don't have to scan your network to find the unit. This is just personal opinion as I have 2 RX-3010 units and a CX-A5000 unit that i control via I- devices and android devices so setting a static IP to each just made it easier.

What speakers are you going to drive with your unit and what amp do you have? Going to go XLR for your connections or stay RCA?

IMO XLR is the way to go as my speakers are dead silent with XLR connections, ie an extremly low noise floor and zero hiss.smile.gif
post #866 of 2227
Thanks, Smitty. Good to know.

I have a Paradigm setup with Studio 100s, 690 Center, 590 rears, and SVS SB13 Ultra.

For the time being, I'll be using an XPA-5 for power. I only have a 5.1 setup.

Yes, I just ordered XLRs from monoprice.
post #867 of 2227
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blutaz View Post

Hello,

I am currently in the market for my first home cinema receiver. I was planning to buy the Rx v775 but after seeing a very good review of the Rx A1030 I am not sure anymore?
Is there really a big difference between those two models ?
Thank you

Definitely, even if you only use it as a 2-channel system, the RXA series sound better than thr RXV series... And definitely it's not placebo as I really want the RXV to sound the same as the RXA (for my bedroom 2-ch application)
post #868 of 2227
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Originally Posted by jong1 View Post



Ps. David, can you show me where it says the JVC can accept 120Hz 4K HDMI; that sounds crazy. Pretty sure that will be the display refresh, i.e. 5x24p, not the source fps.

It's on their X500, X700 and X900 brochure (and also during JVC projector training) that those projectors can take UHD signal at 24/25/30/48/50/60/100/120 fps.
post #869 of 2227
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

Definitely, even if you only use it as a 2-channel system, the RXA series sound better than thr RXV series... And definitely it's not placebo as I really want the RXV to sound the same as the RXA (for my bedroom 2-ch application)
You seem to know a lot and since I get this question a lot I will pose it to you.
What exactly are the differences between the RX-V773 and the RX-A820? They are often similarly priced.
post #870 of 2227
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

It's on their X500, X700 and X900 brochure (and also during JVC projector training) that those projectors can take UHD signal at 24/25/30/48/50/60/100/120 fps.
link? It certainly isn't over HDMI.
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