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post #1051 of 5672
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

His post states that the only way to get video was to hook the source directly to the tv.

Then the next logical step is to determine if it's not passing ANY HDMI through or just the STB.

Edit: I guess my reading comprehension failed. If it's not passing any, chances are the receiver is DOA.
post #1052 of 5672
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Originally Posted by floridaman View Post

The only stipulation is that you purchased the F8500 through an authorized dealer.

This is false. All you need is a valid serial.

Both Samsung and SquareTrade (Costco warranty) don't care where you got your set from as long as it has a valid serial number.
post #1053 of 5672
Can someone do me a favor and take a picture of there 8500 in pitch black?? With little content as possible just to get an idea of contrast. Just wondering if my settings are a little off.
post #1054 of 5672
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

Then the next logical step is to determine if it's not passing ANY HDMI through or just the STB.

Edit: I guess my reading comprehension failed. If it's not passing any, chances are the receiver is DOA.
I agree. I told him receiver HDMI failure in the other thread.
post #1055 of 5672
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Originally Posted by oinchats View Post

Does anyone have any opinion as to whether or not it is a good idea to purchase the Costco 3yr. extended warranty? For $99 it seems like a good deal to me but I know others on her know more than I do.

Its the same square trade warranty sold anywhere but very cheap.

Even if you did not buy it at costco you can bring your receipt and they will sell you the warranty. From there go on square trade website to register your product or you can call. The square trade warranty kicks in after 12 months from the date of purchase effectively making it 4 years total coverage

I still need to do it and i bought my TV over a month ago.. Also if you register your set on the samsung website they give you an extra 3 months parts/labor from samsung.

I called to verify when my manufacture warranty expired and it was 15 months from my purchase date. Beat that Panasonic

wait they have a deficit ......... and are in the red. the truth is out there and I will tell it
post #1056 of 5672
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Originally Posted by EzRush View Post

Can someone do me a favor and take a picture of there 8500 in pitch black?? With little content as possible just to get an idea of contrast. Just wondering if my settings are a little off.


Do a google search "kevin miller F8500 settings" That is what you should use if you are not getting it professionally calibrated.
post #1057 of 5672
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

Then the next logical step is to determine if it's not passing ANY HDMI through or just the STB.

Edit: I guess my reading comprehension failed. If it's not passing any, chances are the receiver is DOA.
I agree. I told him receiver HDMI failure in the other thread.
I've been away so I haven't followed this issue closely. I had a problem yesterday with our AVR that might be related. The fact that it was a problem says more about me than the AVR. wink.gif

Our Denon 3312 has six HDMI inputs. They must be configured individually in order for them to be active. In my case, I had setup the first three when we got the AVR. I was very puzzled when the HDMI4, HDMI5, and HDMI6 inputs didn't work yesterday. It took the Denon owner's thread to jog my memory. In the case of the Denon it seems to take two different settings in order to use any of the HDMI inputs.
post #1058 of 5672
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

This is false. All you need is a valid serial.

Both Samsung and SquareTrade (Costco warranty) don't care where you got your set from as long as it has a valid serial number.
Actually your statement is false. You are correct that Samsung will honor the warranty with a valid serial number however Squaretrade requires that you buy the warranty within 60 days and the TV must be purchased at Costco or any US authorized retailer.It is clearly stated on the Costco site. You should read the fine print before posting a statement that isn't correct.
post #1059 of 5672
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Originally Posted by floridaman View Post

Actually your statement is false. You are correct that Samsung will honor the warranty with a valid serial number however Squaretrade requires that you buy the warranty within 60 days and the TV must be purchased at Costco or any US authorized retailer.It is clearly stated on the Costco site. You should read the fine print before posting a statement that isn't correct.
Really when i called customer service they said i could purchase the warranty before the manufacture warranty is over. I guess i better get on that when i get to costco.
post #1060 of 5672
I am a smart TV newbie and I'm hoping someone can give me some advice on setting up my new F8500, which will be delivered Friday to replace a deceased HL-R5067W.

This brings me to my question for smart TV experts:

I have a Denon AVR-3808ci receiver which I have been using happily for about 5 years. Currently all of my source devices are plugged into it, and pass by a single HDMI cable to my set (my old one had only one HDMI input). My sources include:

- Oppo BDP-93 blu ray player
- Xbox 360 (HDMI version)
- Scientific Atlanta set-top box
- Apple TV

I also have a Roku that I have never plugged in, and a 4-port HDMI switcher I can press into service if necessary/helpful.

My Oppo and the TV are both 3D-capable, which I believe requires 2 HDMI cables. I would probably use that seldom if ever but would like to at least have the capability. I use a Harmony One to control everything, so can reprogram that for whatever configuration works best.

The question, really, is this: am I better off plugging some or all of these devices directly into the TV, then feeding audio from the TV to the receiver by optical, or continuing to pass everything through the receiver? I think as a practical matter the only thing that would be problematic in terms of continuing with my existing setup would be 3D from the Oppo, due to the 2 cables. I suppose I could have blu ray and the TV's built-in smart TV features as the only things passing from the set to the receiver, but would the TV in any way inhibit the Denon's decoding of the newer blu ray codecs?

Thanks very much for any friendly advice anyone can provide.
Edited by tee.edwards - 8/7/13 at 8:50am
post #1061 of 5672
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Originally Posted by tee.edwards View Post


My Oppo and the TV are both 3D-capable, which I believe requires 2 HDMI cables.
That's right and the best place to get the other advise you're looking for is probably in the OPPO 95 owner's thread.
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am I better off plugging some or all of these devices directly into the TV, then feeding audio from the TV to the receiver by optical, or continuing to pass everything through the receiver? I think as a practical matter the only thing that would be problematic in terms of continuing with my existing setup would be 3D from the Oppo, due to the 2 cables. I suppose I could have blu ray and the TV's built-in smart TV features as the only things passing from the set to the receiver, but would the TV in any way inhibit the Denon's decoding of the newer blu ray codecs?
You can't pass anything but lossy stereo back to the AVR from an external HDMI source that is connected to your TV. I would never connect the audio from an OPPO 95 to a TV. wink.gif

With the OPPO you have the option of connecting the video to the display with one HDMI output and the audio to the AVR. I don't know if the 3808 can handle bitstreamed lossless multichannel audio, but you can use LPCM/HDMI (digital) or your OPPO's dacs for analog audio. Both of those options allow you to take full advantage of the Blu-ray lossless codec audio.

The Smart TV features that involve audio can be sent back to the AVR using optical or coax digital. It will be lossy audio, but you can take advantage of surround sound from the internal "Smart" sources like Netflix.
Edited by htwaits - 8/6/13 at 11:19pm
post #1062 of 5672
Just bought this set (60") tonight.

Using Movie mode stock out of box.
Picture is awesome. As good or likely better than my 50" Pioneer Kuro- definitely a bit sharper.

And- no buzzing to speak of.

This is quite a TV.

I tried a Sharp Aquos 60" LED (757u) for a couple weeks and could not stand the off axis viewing wash out.
Returned it.

This TV is worth every penny.
post #1063 of 5672
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My Oppo and the TV are both 3D-capable, which I believe requires 2 HDMI cables.
I've never heard such a thing. One hdmi cable from your Blu-Ray player to your 8500 gives you 3D capability.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/6/13 at 9:47pm
post #1064 of 5672
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Originally Posted by floridaman View Post

Yes it is well worth the $99. As long as you are a member at Costco you can purchase the warranty even if the tv wasn't purchased there. The only stipulation is that you purchased the F8500 through an authorized dealer.
You don't actually have to be a member of COSTCO to buy this warranty but it will cost you an extra $5 "Non-Member Surcharge". This is the route I took with my 64F8500 and I'm not a COSTCO member. Well worth the price!
post #1065 of 5672
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

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My Oppo and the TV are both 3D-capable, which I believe requires 2 HDMI cables.
I've never heard such a thing. One hdmi cable from your Blu-Ray player to your 8500 gives you 3D capability.
True but you will not have lossless audio with that setup. The OPPO and other double HDMI players (Sony, Panasonic, etc.) allow you to connect video directly to the TV using one HDMI output, and then you connect the other HDMI output directly to the AVR for full lossless multichannel audio.
post #1066 of 5672
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

I've never heard such a thing. One hdmi cable from your Blu-Ray player to your 8500 gives you 3D capability.
That person wants audio from the AVR. If you dont have a 3d capable AVR then you have to run 2 HDMI cables because the AVR can not pass a 3d video signal. 1 from the source to the tv for video and 1 from the source to AVR for audio.
Edited by Bond 007 - 8/7/13 at 2:25am
post #1067 of 5672
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

True but you will not have lossless audio with that setup. The OPPO and other double HDMI players (Sony, Panasonic, etc.) allow you to connect video directly to the TV using one HDMI output, and then you connect the other HDMI output directly to the AVR for full lossless multichannel audio.
That is only necessary if you dont have a 3d capable AVR.
post #1068 of 5672
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Originally Posted by nfraso View Post

This is false. All you need is a valid serial.

Both Samsung and SquareTrade (Costco warranty) don't care where you got your set from as long as it has a valid serial number.
Actually you need a Proof of Purchase, valid, official looking receipt as well.
post #1069 of 5672
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Originally Posted by PBRINI View Post

We determined the issue to be with the Receiver not passing the HDMI signals through anymore. Not sure what happened but it just "stopped". I posted this in the Yamaha RX-V673 thread:
Anyone have any ideas here?

So we figured out the problem - sort of.

My brother moved the receiver to another room to hook it up to a different TV and the video output worked! Now we were baffled... We brought it back to the F8500 and it worked again! The only thing I can think off is that removing AC power rest something in the receiver!

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

Pete
post #1070 of 5672
Sometimes pulling the plug for a while on any electronics works wonders.
post #1071 of 5672
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

True but you will not have lossless audio with that setup. The OPPO and other double HDMI players (Sony, Panasonic, etc.) allow you to connect video directly to the TV using one HDMI output, and then you connect the other HDMI output directly to the AVR for full lossless multichannel audio.
2 hdmi cables are still not necessary. You have the full 7.1 ch decoded analog outs you can send to your avr. Why let your avr's dac do the decoding when you have an audiophile quality dac in the Oppo player that can decode the audio? Just let the avr do the amplification. So do customers that buy a high quality Oppo blu-ray player only use its dacs for 2-channel audio?
post #1072 of 5672
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Originally Posted by PBRINI View Post

So we figured out the problem - sort of.

My brother moved the receiver to another room to hook it up to a different TV and the video output worked! Now we were baffled... We brought it back to the F8500 and it worked again! The only thing I can think off is that removing AC power rest something in the receiver!

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

Pete
Great!
post #1073 of 5672
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

2 hdmi cables are still not necessary. You have the full 7.1 ch decoded analog outs you can send to your avr. Why let your avr's dac do the decoding when you have an audiophile quality dac in the Oppo player that can decode the audio? Just let the avr do the amplification. So do customers that buy a high quality Oppo blu-ray player only use its dacs for 2-channel audio?
I must admit you have me baffled. Are you talking about using an analog RCA cable for 7.1 lossless audio and an HDMI cable for video? Please explain further.
post #1074 of 5672
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I must admit you have me baffled. Are you talking about using an analog RCA cable for 7.1 lossless audio and an HDMI cable for video? Please explain further.
It's not necessary to send lossless audio to the avr. Let the Oppo do the lossless audio decoding internally. Just send the decoded, 7.1 ch analog outputs to the avr for amplification.
post #1075 of 5672
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

It's not necessary to send lossless audio to the avr. Let the Oppo do the lossless audio decoding internally. Just send the decoded, 7.1 ch analog outputs to the avr for amplification.

Why do you believe that the DAC makes a difference with lossless digital signal? If you're outputting PCM via HDMI, the DAC conversion will still be done on the AVR.

All high quality DAC are similarly excellent. IMO, Oppo DAC is similar to external amplifiers...people swear that it makes a difference but I'm not so sure.
post #1076 of 5672
Thanks for your help, guys. To be clear, to DanF8500's point, I misstated having a BDP-95 - my player is actually a BDP-93 and doesn't have the high-end DAC on the 95, so I don't know that there is an advantage to running analog cabling rather than just using HDMI and letting the receiver do the conversion. I had forgotten it was possible to run one HDMI cable to the receiver and another to the TV for 3D applications - this seems to be the path of least resistance and would allow me to leave all my other cabling in place.
post #1077 of 5672
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Originally Posted by tee.edwards View Post

Thanks for your help, guys. To be clear, to DanF8500's point, I misstated having a BDP-95 - my player is actually a BDP-93 and doesn't have the high-end DAC on the 95, so I don't know that there is an advantage to running analog cabling rather than just using HDMI and letting the receiver do the conversion. I had forgotten it was possible to run one HDMI cable to the receiver and another to the TV for 3D applications - this seems to be the path of least resistance and would allow me to leave all my other cabling in place.
Thanks for the re-clarification on your blu-ray player. Yes, letting your avr do the dac conversions instead of your blu-ray player would be a toss up. Go with the path of least resistance.
post #1078 of 5672
Well what do ya know? Software version 1110 is now available. Wow, seems we are getting good one per week.
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I bet the next update turns our 8500s into 100" 4K displays. ;-)
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Originally Posted by rflores5432 View Post

Well what do ya know? Software version 1110 is now available. Wow, seems we are getting good one per week.

Any details as to what it does? 0.00000001 ftL black levels? tongue.gif
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