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post #1411 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

Use an optical out from the tv to the the avr, and hook all hdmi directly to the TV. works like a charm.
That won't work!! The 8500's optical output won't transmit 5.1 audio from an hdmi source. You'll get 2 channel audio only.
post #1412 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

That won't work!! The 8500's optical output won't transmit 5.1 audio from an hdmi source. You'll get 2 channel audio only.

Great. Someone have any ideas if there is a setting or something I can change? Again not a problem with regular blus just 3d ones
post #1413 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

Great. Someone have any ideas if there is a setting or something I can change? Again not a problem with regular blus just 3d ones
Hey lohajat. Did you say you have an Onkyo SR-507 avr? I just did some quick research online, and it doesn't look like your avr is 3D compatible.....
http://www.avforums.com/forums/av-amplifiers-receivers/1481457-using-onkyo-sr507-3d-support.html
http://www.avforums.com/forums/av-amplifiers-receivers/1608938-3d-onkyo-tx-sr507.html
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437546/does-onkyo-tx-sr507-have-3dtv-play-pass-through
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/27/13 at 6:39pm
post #1414 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

Great. Someone have any ideas if there is a setting or something I can change? Again not a problem with regular blus just 3d ones

As DanF8500 also found out, the Onkyo 507 isn't 3D compatible. However, just use an optical cable from the PS3 to the receiver for sound and send the picture straight from the PS3 to the TV via HDMI. You won't get lossless 5.1 sound but you will get 3D. Other sources that you don't require 3D from (e.g. a cable box) can still go over the AVR via nothing but HDMI.
post #1415 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Phanes View Post

Can you post some pictures of the "banding" you're witnessing?

I'll try to capture some. Until then, watch the scene at 16:15 where Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Jack descends down into the cavern/ library
. There's banding on the light from his flashlight in most of the shots. Also, there's aliasing on the rope at 16:15 on the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
overhead shot of him sliding down it into the hole
. Wonder if its the set or the source.
post #1416 of 5677
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Originally Posted by mmmccall View Post

Anybody found a workaround for the 3d brightness pops on DirecTV material? 3D blu-rays are fine because you can enable cinema smooth. However, DirecTV's 3D broadcasts cannot be displayed using cinema smooth so my 3D viewing has brightness pops and ghosting, almost impossible to watch. Anyone else experiencing this and if so, have you found a workaround? Or are we stuck waiting for the long awaited firmware update that actually solves this issue??

The problem is that Cinema Smooth in 3D often causes flickering in skies and other bright objects. It also meas you can't use smoothing which can be particularly effective in 3D. Samsung told me they reproduced the problem and would fix it shortly - but it's been ages an they are dragging their feet. Too much longer and they'll be deep into the next model and will be reluctant to do a damn thing to this set.

I hope very much that each and every owner is calling Samsung and complaining about this. It happens to all your sets whether you've seen it personally or not. If you watch 3D, or plan to ever, you will experience this. They should fix it and the only way they'll fix it is if enough of us complain.
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Naahhh dont think they will fix it anymore, what theyl prolly do is wait and put the fix in next years
upgrade box, that way they will get more money out of us mad.gif
post #1418 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

Hey superman
Is this the case for all folks watching 3d blu rays?? Can you give me an example of the optical cable I need?? Anything specific for 3d?? Thanks!!
I don't endorse buying from any specific company but the cable you need is the one below. Perhaps there is a link to monoprice from this forum you can use to support this forum. In either case, they are cheap, and you simply allow your reciever to play the audio from the TV directly. You will not have anymore audio issues or HDMI speed or hndshake issues.
http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=102&cp_id=10229
post #1419 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

.....and you simply allow your reciever to play the audio from the TV directly. You will not have anymore audio issues or HDMI speed or hndshake issues.
http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=102&cp_id=10229
You also won't get 5.1 channels from an hdmi source....not a good solution. Willieconway's reply to lohajat above was the better option for him....optical from ps3 to avr, and hdmi from ps3 to tv.
post #1420 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

You also won't get 5.1 channels from an hdmi source....not a good solution. Willieconway's reply to lohajat above was the better option for him....optical from ps3 to avr, and hdmi from ps3 to tv.
Sound is not his problem. 3d is the issue hes dealing with. His AVR is not 3d capable. But youre right Willies solution is best with an AVR that is not 3d capable.
post #1421 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Sound is not his problem. 3d is the issue hes dealing with. His AVR is not 3d capable. But youre right Willies solution is best with an AVR that is not 3d capable.
Yeah, I was the guy that gave him that piece of info.......Lack of multi-channel sound would become his new problem if he had followed thru with Supermans initial reply. I have told Supermans twice now about this, but he's either in denial or he hasn't read my replies to him...no more.
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Yeah, I was the guy that gave him that piece of info.......Lack of multi-channel sound would become his new problem if he had followed thru with Supermans initial reply. I have told Supermans twice now about this, but he's either in denial or he hasn't read my replies to him...no more.
Read your replies. His reciever might only have a single optical input. If that is the case, the ps3 would be the only device sending sound to the reciever. If he doesn't have a dvr/cable that also needs audio output, then connecting the toslink from the ps3 to the avr is his best choice. If like me he has an old reciever and needs multiple devices from hdmi to deliver sound, and does not need 5.1 or 7.1 surrpund sound, then my solution might fit his needs.
post #1423 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

Read your replies. His reciever might only have a single optical input. If that is the case, the ps3 would be the only device sending sound to the reciever. If he doesn't have a dvr/cable that also needs audio output, then connecting the toslink from the ps3 to the avr is his best choice. If like me he has an old reciever and needs multiple devices from hdmi to deliver sound, and does not need 5.1 or 7.1 surrpund sound, then my solution might fit his needs.
Lohajat's receiver has 2 optical inputs (Onkyo SR507). He should be able to use hdmi on his avr with all his other sources, except when playing 3D blu-rays. So, why have an avr, fantastic plasma display, blu-ray player, 3D movies, and not need/want multi-channels? Is money the issue, or do you prefer 2 channel audio for all your media?
post #1424 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Hey lohajat. Did you say you have an Onkyo SR-507 avr? I just did some quick research online, and it doesn't look like your avr is 3D compatible.....
http://www.avforums.com/forums/av-amplifiers-receivers/1481457-using-onkyo-sr507-3d-support.html
http://www.avforums.com/forums/av-amplifiers-receivers/1608938-3d-onkyo-tx-sr507.html
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437546/does-onkyo-tx-sr507-have-3dtv-play-pass-through

oh poops! i thought i had looked this up before. thanks dan, Noob mistake on my part. time to start saving for new AVR.
post #1425 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Lohajat's receiver has 2 optical inputs (Onkyo SR507). He should be able to use hdmi on his avr with all his other sources, except when playing 3D blu-rays. So, why have an avr, fantastic plasma display, blu-ray player, 3D movies, and not need/want multi-channels? Is money the issue, or do you prefer 2 channel audio for all your media?

gotta save up for a new avr. thank you guys for the tips on how to fix my setup. you guys rock and this is why i come to this forum! just sucks that I have to re-arrange the setup anytime i want to watch 3d. i guess i need to start AVR hunting now! any suggestions =) (i have a B/W center CCM series, and 683s as my fronts)
post #1426 of 5677
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Originally Posted by willieconway View Post

As DanF8500 also found out, the Onkyo 507 isn't 3D compatible. However, just use an optical cable from the PS3 to the receiver for sound and send the picture straight from the PS3 to the TV via HDMI. You won't get lossless 5.1 sound but you will get 3D. Other sources that you don't require 3D from (e.g. a cable box) can still go over the AVR via nothing but HDMI.

hey wilie, so it will still be 5.1, just not lossless? thanks again
post #1427 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

gotta save up for a new avr. thank you guys for the tips on how to fix my setup. you guys rock and this is why i come to this forum! just sucks that I have to re-arrange the setup anytime i want to watch 3d. i guess i need to start AVR hunting now! any suggestions =) (i have a B/W center CCM series, and 683s as my fronts)
Lohajat, not sure you have to re-arrange your setup every time you want to watch a 3D movie. The solution, as Willie described to you, can be a permanent solution for playing all media from your PS3. It doesn't make very much sense to send video to your avr anyways. Video direct to your 8500 is all you'll ever need.
post #1428 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

hey wilie, so it will still be 5.1, just not lossless? thanks again
Correct
post #1429 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

Lohajat, not sure you have to re-arrange your setup every time you want to watch a 3D movie. The solution, as Willie described to you, can be a permanent solution for playing all media from your PS3. It doesn't make very much sense to send video to your avr anyways. Video direct to your 8500 is all you'll ever need.
Youre right. Personally I would get a new AVR so that it is a cleaner setup and he will get lossless up to 7.1. You can get a good 3d AVR now for $200.
post #1430 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

gotta save up for a new avr. thank you guys for the tips on how to fix my setup. you guys rock and this is why i come to this forum! just sucks that I have to re-arrange the setup anytime i want to watch 3d. i guess i need to start AVR hunting now! any suggestions =) (i have a B/W center CCM series, and 683s as my fronts)
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V373-5-1-Channel-AV-Receiver/dp/B007JF8FD8/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377787529&sr=1-8&keywords=yamaha+receiver
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Bond, thanks a lot for the advice. So with my current setup, I am still not getting lossless because of my AVR? so using an optical essentially doesnt change much in terms of my audio quality?

the yamaha looks good. from a power standpoint, will it allow me to enjoy the BWs well? or do i need to step up to the aventage series? thanks again
post #1432 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

Bond, thanks a lot for the advice. So with my current setup, I am still not getting lossless because of my AVR? so using an optical essentially doesnt change much in terms of my audio quality?

the yamaha looks good. from a power standpoint, will it allow me to enjoy the BWs well? or do i need to step up to the aventage series? thanks again
Optical does not support lossless. You will need an HDMI connection to get Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio.
The 373 has plenty enough power but if you want more features and have the money then step up by all means.
post #1433 of 5677
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Originally Posted by lohajat112 View Post

Bond, thanks a lot for the advice. So with my current setup, I am still not getting lossless because of my AVR? so using an optical essentially doesnt change much in terms of my audio quality?

the yamaha looks good. from a power standpoint, will it allow me to enjoy the BWs well? or do i need to step up to the aventage series? thanks again
Your avr supports lossless multi-channel via hdmi. As Bond stated above, optical connections don't support lossless multi-channel....but they do support lossless 2-ch PCM.
post #1434 of 5677
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

I don't endorse buying from any specific company but the cable you need is the one below.
Mono Price nakes some good stuff.......
post #1435 of 5677
It seems that the TV is turning on my cable box when I'm not home.

Here's what happens: I turn off the TV and the cable box at night. I think the TV is going into standby mode (the little red light in the lower left corner is on).

Then, the next day, when I come home from work (after the TV has been off all day), the cable box has been turned on.

So far, the only way I know to stop this is to unplug the TV during the day.

Anybody else have this problem? What's the solution?
post #1436 of 5677
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Originally Posted by mikenmar View Post

It seems that the TV is turning on my cable box when I'm not home.

Here's what happens: I turn off the TV and the cable box at night. I think the TV is going into standby mode (the little red light in the lower left corner is on).

Then, the next day, when I come home from work (after the TV has been off all day), the cable box has been turned on.

So far, the only way I know to stop this is to unplug the TV during the day.

Anybody else have this problem? What's the solution?
Contact your local paranormal activity specialists, or possibly one of your pets is hitting the stb button on your Samsung remote, or you have a sticky stb button....lol I've never run into that problem.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/30/13 at 8:40am
post #1437 of 5677
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Originally Posted by mikenmar View Post

It seems that the TV is turning on my cable box when I'm not home.

Here's what happens: I turn off the TV and the cable box at night. I think the TV is going into standby mode (the little red light in the lower left corner is on).

Then, the next day, when I come home from work (after the TV has been off all day), the cable box has been turned on.

So far, the only way I know to stop this is to unplug the TV during the day.

Anybody else have this problem? What's the solution?

Does it turn on to record a scheduled program?
post #1438 of 5677
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post


Contact your local paranormal activity specialists .


Or maybe someone hacked his tv biggrin.gif
post #1439 of 5677
^ Disconnect HDMI between TV and STB overnight see what happens. Check CEC is disabled on TV.


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post #1440 of 5677
Going back and fourth between this plasma and the F8000 led. Hard to tell in Best Buy but trying to see which is better at handling reflections/glare.
Thanks
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