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Originally Posted by igreg View Post

A friend of mine has been holding off buying plasma for many years, but since this is likely the last year of the Samsung elite plasma, he is ready to replace his failing 35" tube (Mits that still has the wood around the tube!).

However, when he went into Best Buy today to check it out for the first time, he was disappointed, saying that the set was too dim, and that it also lacked detail....this evident in particular with reference to the display Samsung H8000. In fact, he thought the new Sharp LED looked even better unless you got too close to the set. Also, when I considered buying a new Panasonic plasma at Best Buy in December, I was also disappointed in the lack of detail on the set (used THX Mode), although dimness was not a problem for me.

That being said, I know Best Buy is not the best way to assess a TV, but any suggestions to ensure that the F8500 is actually better when all you have to rely upon is a display at Best Buy? Apparently Best Buy has a no questions asked 15-day return policy, so perhaps that would be a safety net for the 8500. Or could buy fully calibrated and broken-in Samsung 8500 from Value Electronics, albeit returns would be much more difficult, and probably not possible if you just did not like the picture.

Thanks!

Not sure how the F8500 at your local BB was setup. But when you go in again, ask them for the remote. Go into the settings (under Energy) and increase the cell light to 20. Also, disable the Eco mode. Then put the TV in either Standard or the Movie mode, and see if you like it. Another thing that may help is to ask the BB guys to turn off the surrounding TVs to get a better frame of reference.

Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by igreg View Post

A friend of mine has been holding off buying plasma for many years, but since this is likely the last year of the Samsung elite plasma, he is ready to replace his failing 35" tube (Mits that still has the wood around the tube!).

However, when he went into Best Buy today to check it out for the first time, he was disappointed, saying that the set was too dim, and that it also lacked detail....this evident in particular with reference to the display Samsung H8000. In fact, he thought the new Sharp LED looked even better unless you got too close to the set. Also, when I considered buying a new Panasonic plasma at Best Buy in December, I was also disappointed in the lack of detail on the set (used THX Mode), although dimness was not a problem for me.

That being said, I know Best Buy is not the best way to assess a TV, but any suggestions to ensure that the F8500 is actually better when all you have to rely upon is a display at Best Buy? Apparently Best Buy has a no questions asked 15-day return policy, so perhaps that would be a safety net for the 8500. Or could buy fully calibrated and broken-in Samsung 8500 from Value Electronics, albeit returns would be much more difficult, and probably not possible if you just did not like the picture.

Anyone else have the same experience, but then happy when had the set at home? Any advice I can pass onto my friend? (and for me too since I am happy with the gorgeous picture of my 2004 Panasonic 50” TH-PD7UY which was upgraded to a rating of 9 with a 10 maximum by CNET in 2013. I know its specs may not match the VT or ZT, but, according to at least one source, “The ultimate test of all plasma televisions is how well they show when they are actually tested for video quality. Forget the native pixel resolution, the built in progressive scanning converter, the astronomically unrealistic contrast ratio figure shown." Would I actually have better picture quality with the either the latest Samsung or Panasonic for 1080i content? May get the Samsung as a bedroom TV and back-up if my 10-year old Pansonic fails.

Thanks!

Well he was comparing it to LEDs which WILL be brighter...Of course when he gets home and watches in the evening\night with lights off or even dimmed the Plasma would really shine. While the F8500 will get "close" to the brightness of a LCD, it will no way match or exceed it, so if your friend is looking for that type of picture then LCD might be the best bet for them. You should remind him that you don't always watch TV in the torch modes that the TVs are usually set to on the BB showroom floor. When it gets down to it, how does your friend watch TV? Lights Off\Dim? never at night? does your friend care about the drawbacks of BOTH technologies? While Plasma is generally considered the "best" flat screen tech for critical viewing, that doesn't mean its the best for everyone. As it was previously said, have your friend ask for a remote to play with the settings and to have them turn off the surrounding LCDs if they are distracting him. Not much else to do however as everyone is different and you cant force someone to like a certain tech\picture if that's not what they want\enjoy watching...
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What is the latest samsung evolution kit for my samsung 64F8500?
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What is the latest samsung evolution kit for my samsung 64F8500?

There currently isn't one I believe UNLESS it would have been a product that was released in your particular "market' already and I doubt that.
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Returned my 2nd F8500 set today but decided against picking up a third for the reasons I listed previously.

 

I ran the scroll bar last night and I could see an EA Sports logo top left , sky sports news top right , bt sports bottom right and a collection of ineligible logos bottom left - topped off with a nice grid-like pattern over the center (not sure what this is from) - all whilst pixel shift was enabled running on 17 cell light 80 contrast. With that many burn-ins you would automatically assume I was at fault and careless , take this as a warning because I was as careful as I possibly could be.

 

I returned the set due to the excessive buzzing it produces but the above swayed me against getting a third , unfortunately the amazing picture quality isn't worth the agro of having to babysit this TV

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^ Sorry to hear that, but for the first 200+ hours you really should be careful and vary the content with a higher frequency than normal while the phosphors bake a bit.
What you're describing probably isn't burn in but IR, which would disappear over a short period of time.

All plasma TVs are like this OOTB. You do have to be a tickle careful at the start.
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

^ Sorry to hear that, but for the first 200+ hours you really should be careful and vary the content with a higher frequency than normal while the phosphors bake a bit.
What you're describing probably isn't burn in but IR, which would disappear over a short period of time.

All plasma TVs are like this OOTB. You do have to be a tickle careful at the start.


I think I've learned my lesson the hard way this time but I have the Disney WOW Disc on order ready for my next set whatever that may be as I've read the pixel flipper on this disc is pretty good for eliminating burn in's.

 

As for the IR im fairly sure for the most part it is actually burn ins - the grid like overcast and the ea logo have been there for nearly a month with no signs of fading along with some ineligible logo , the skysports news / bt are new developments though and may just be IR. I did run the scroll bar regularly to try combat it that's why I wanted to take a few minutes to type this up and warn people that although I was careful this particular set has been a nightmare for me.

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Cell: 18, Contrast: 95, been running this panel with no reservations for over a year.... no permanent IR or burn in. I watch 4+ hour baseball games regularly.
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