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post #571 of 5674
This is what I mean on the yellow vertical lines when scrolling, however this is only happen with Movie mode, I have tried to switch to Standard, it is not there.

post #572 of 5674
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Originally Posted by polakis View Post

I am sitting only in the middle and 2,8 meters away. No buzzing at all. Only if you put your ear next to the tv...

So, you did listen to the loud buzz on your previous returned TV?
post #573 of 5674
People you have got to get you one of these Samsung VG-KBD2000 Wireless Keyboards for this TV. I have had Keyboards for TV's before and most of the time it just lays around and collects dust. This one is different. On the right hand side of the keyboard where the 10 key would be located on a normal Keyboard is a replica of the remote that came with the TV. The only thing is this one has a good size mouse pad that also runs a mouse arrow on the screen. All the buttons you would find on a standard remote are located at various locations on the Board. The arrow Keys located on the standard remote are there and work the same as they would on a standard remote. The ability to control other devices will be recognized and downloaded to the keyboard and the control of other devices is the best I have seen from most Universal remotes.
I don't know how hungry this thing is on Battery's, but it is Bluetooth so it's not going to last like Normal remote batteries.
Don't spend money on a standard remote, Get this instead.
I have not tried nor will I try to get into the Service Menu with this.
No Place or Mic for Voice Commands either.
This Is a Winner. I'm telling you this is Good Stuff.
post #574 of 5674
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

This is what I mean on the yellow vertical lines when scrolling, however this is only happen with Movie mode, I have tried to switch to Standard, it is not there.


These are the greyscale issues that a calibration typically addresses.
post #575 of 5674
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Mine is the reverse, if the screen is black, it buzzes louder...

That's odd echoesian. Every plasma I've ever owned always buzzes louder as the screen brightness increases. I can't imagine why yours operates in reverse. eek.gif
post #576 of 5674
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

This is what I mean on the yellow vertical lines when scrolling, however this is only happen with Movie mode, I have tried to switch to Standard, it is not there.


Not sure what you mean by scrolling. Is the yellow line scrolling or is your screen content scrolling? I used to get horizontal scrolling lines years ago as the result of noisy light dimmers.
post #577 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Not sure what you mean by scrolling. Is the yellow line scrolling or is your screen content scrolling? I used to get horizontal scrolling lines years ago as the result of noisy light dimmers.

The scrolling is the built-in feature which you can find under system -> screen burn protection.

The yellow line is part of the scrolling content.
post #578 of 5674
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Originally Posted by 939 View Post

These are the greyscale issues that a calibration typically addresses.

How do we resolve this? Any DIY tool that I can use to calibrate or do I really need a professional to calibrate ?
post #579 of 5674
A professional at any job will do it better than you can period. If you need your tires balanced on your car, you need an expensive machine and the experience to use it. Even if you buy the machine, you still need to learn to use it.

You can buy a calibration disk and a meter yourself and learn how to do it yourself for about the same price as paying for one. However the skill's come from trial and error over hundreds of different sets and years of experience. Calibration by D-Nice for example will always have the experience advantage, however you can achieve reference levels yourself if you have the patience and drive.
post #580 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

You can buy a calibration disk and a meter yourself and learn how to do it yourself for about the same price as paying for one. However the skill's come from trial and error over hundreds of different sets and years of experience. Calibration by D-Nice for example will always have the experience advantage, however you can achieve reference levels yourself if you have the patience and drive.


Which disc and meter do you recommend ?
post #581 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Supermans View Post

A professional at any job will do it better than you can period. If you need your tires balanced on your car, you need an expensive machine and the experience to use it. Even if you buy the machine, you still need to learn to use it.

You can buy a calibration disk and a meter yourself and learn how to do it yourself for about the same price as paying for one. However the skill's come from trial and error over hundreds of different sets and years of experience. Calibration by D-Nice for example will always have the experience advantage, however you can achieve reference levels yourself if you have the patience and drive.

Agree with all those points, the reference results are limited by the accuracy of the meter however. The best combination is a colorimeter paired with a spectro and good software to achieve optimal results that can be a larger investment.. For a display of this caliber a professional calibration is warranted imo
post #582 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Donloz View Post

Which disc and meter do you recommend ?

Start with the Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark and Calibration Disc 2nd Edition
Try it without a meter first, and see if you like the results.
post #583 of 5674
Hi,

I purchased 64F8500 few days back in Mumbai, India. The display is amazing. Miles ahead of plasmas owned in past in terms of PQ and features.

Playing around few of the many of settings posted on the recommended settings thread. Also trying the AVSHD709 and Disney's WoW discs.

Btw, the box says "Made in India" unlike large panels that were imported in past. So I guess it will be closer to EU version in terms of firmware rollout.


Posting few screens grabs. Need a help though, do you know how I capture better pictures? I use a Sony Nex5 and Nikon D90.

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post #584 of 5674
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Agree with all those points, the reference results are limited by the accuracy of the meter however. The best combination is a colorimeter paired with a spectro and good software to achieve optimal results that can be a larger investment.. For a display of this caliber a professional calibration is warranted imo
+ 1 on that. The pro's will usually bring out about $15,000. + worth of gear to do a set right.
post #585 of 5674
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by shaiju_o_thomas View Post

Hi,

I purchased 64F8500 few days back in Mumbai, India. The display is amazing. Miles ahead of plasmas owned in past in terms of PQ and features.
Posting few screens grabs. Need a help though, do you know how I capture better pictures? I use a Sony Nex5 and Nikon D90.
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those are great shots!! thanks for sharing smile.gif
post #586 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Agree with all those points, the reference results are limited by the accuracy of the meter however. The best combination is a colorimeter paired with a spectro and good software to achieve optimal results that can be a larger investment.. For a display of this caliber a professional calibration is warranted imo
+ 1 on that. The pro's will usually bring out about $15,000. + worth of gear to do a set right.

My view is biased but there are pros and cons to either method.

I've learned a lot attempting my own cals. It's been fun and educational.
I can recalibrate at any time (firmware updates that change base settings for instance).
I have calibrated all the TVs and PC monitors in my home.
I can adjust my calibration preferences over time.

There are more reasons but I think you get the idea....

I believe my results are close to what a pro would give me.
post #587 of 5674
The only area a colorimeter generally falls short is in color work with a cms need a spectro or a profile to be truly accurate

But you are right it's a lot if fun and I've been impressed by your cals bit of a diyer myself but wasn't completely satisfied with my results
post #588 of 5674
^ Yeah I'm looking for someone who can profile my D3, but as yet no luck frown.gif
post #589 of 5674
Good plan pie smile.gif
post #590 of 5674
The best approach, especially if you are a tech person (engineer myself), is to calibrate yourself. An initial investment in time and equipment will pay back lots as you can not only calibrate your current TV but any screen in your home past or future.
On top having a pro do it for you is only solving the issue in question (display precision and standards matching) temporarily as plasmas evolve (significantly) during their life-cycle an require recalibration every 4-6 months at least over their initial 3 years of life.
I personally use a eye1 Pro (recently recalibrated by x-Rite) spectrophotometer an eye1 Display 3 colorimeter (with specific corrections built in my ChromaPure software) and colorHCFR as well as ChromaPure software.
IMHO a far better investment that paying some other guy to do it for you once.

P.S.
The F8500 was a joy to calibrate much faster than other plasmas I've calibrated. less than an hour as opposed to 2-3 for my VT30 for instance.
post #591 of 5674
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

I believe my results are close to what a pro would give me.
Calibration is not needed, it is a choice wink.gif
post #592 of 5674
^erm, that's an oxymoron wink.gif
post #593 of 5674
Just checked via TV and there is an update 1104 is available for Europe. Downloading now and will report my finds. The last update 1103 showed slight PQ improvements. I hope this one does the same too
post #594 of 5674
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

Just checked via TV and there is an update 1104 is available for Europe. Downloading now and will report my finds. The last update 1103 showed slight PQ improvements. I hope this one does the same too

Anyone know if Europe and US update #'s are the same?
post #595 of 5674
They are not the same, although they follow similar naming standards.
post #596 of 5674
Anyone recommendations for a specific wall mount to use with the 64" F8500? I am looking to place the TV on a wall above a ventless gas fireplace. I may need to tilt it downward a bit (not sure yet), but do not expect to need to tilt the TV right or left. Looking for a balance of a minimalist look, downward tilting capability, ruggedness (i.e. not fall off the wall), and price $$$. Any recommendations? TY in advance from a novice (this is my first plasma and wall mount). Pics below of the room; I close on the house on Tuesday. Don't worry, I will have blackout shades on the windows and door in the area. Also, does anyone know how long the power cord is for the TV? Would you recommend I pay someone to install an outlet in the wall behind the TV or buy an ext cord to reach a floor level outlet? There is an outlet near the lower left of the fireplace. Meatloaf


post #597 of 5674
I posted this about a week ago in it's own thread, but didn't get much help, so figured i would try here.......

"So I recently got the pn64f8500 and love the picture, but do mind the lag. I've read that you can put in pc mode to cut lag in half by relabeling input to "PC". I think i'm doing it right, but can't find instructions how to do it, and how to verify.

Going by eye, it seems that it is not activating. fyi, if i bump joystick to side, screen starts moving almost after joystick at rest. When I put in game mode it seems slightly better. not noticeable change by labeling input to pc.

Not sure how to put in PC mode, what i did, was press source button, then tools, then rename to PC. Now if I press source,tools, information, it says device type: hdmi1, name :PC and (1280x720 60 for ps3 and 1920x1080@60 for pc). (no special mode..... if in game mode, states it here)

Picture mode still in movie mode. no game mode active, all setting still changeable (which in game mode goes to standard and some settings greyed out)...... which leads me to believe not in PC mode

So how to get this in PC mode and verify? Thanks"
post #598 of 5674
How can we customize the label on the sources?
post #599 of 5674
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Originally Posted by DRmeatloaf View Post

Anyone recommendations for a specific wall mount to use with the 64" F8500?
Get a flat wall mount, any flat wall mount will do. A Digicom PMA-5041 is a nice, cheap flat wall mount..........
post #600 of 5674
press the input button, so you can see the various sources i.e. tv, hdmi 1, hdmi 2 etc
from that view press (or swipe) 'UP'
I can't remember the exact names of the 2 buttons above all the sources but hopefully you can work that out and change your input to 'PC'

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