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post #901 of 5626
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Any idea where is F8500 being made from? I saw the sticker at the back, it says "Made in Korea". I assume Panasonic is all made in China now ?

Mine 8500 was made in Tijuana Mexico.
post #902 of 5626
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Any idea where is F8500 being made from? I saw the sticker at the back, it says "Made in Korea". I assume Panasonic is all made in China now ?
You assume wrong. I know that some Panasonics are made in Mexico. Assembled in Mexico anyway. Like Samsung they probably have parts made from all over the Earth.
post #903 of 5626
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

I visually don't see any difference. I'm really liking that I no longer have the 3-4 second blank screen delay when switching channels that have different broadcast resolutions. Feels like I installed a faster processor in the tv...lol

Wait, so explain what you did. You're saying that the cable box not converting the signal (and just keeping it at 1080i regardless) will allow every HD display to still be what it is, and not have the long delay between channel changes?

And what did this have to do with the TV itself?
post #904 of 5626
Not how mine is setup. I can go to smart apps and I still here my Directv audio. Something has to tell me AVR to switch. I believe if I add a cable from the TV ARC port to my AVR ARC, then maybe this will work. I was just thinking outloud on what I hope my end result will be.
post #905 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

Yes that's a strange one. It doesn't occur on mine even though the screen resolution switches all the time. What happens if you set your STB to always output as 1080P?

I agree that Samsung needs to offer a turn off option.

Maybe you missed my post earlier but you can get rid of this message by going to the Samsung Universal Remote settings on the TV and remove your STB from the list. I got the suggestion from another thread and it does work for me.
post #906 of 5626
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Originally Posted by rflores5432 View Post

New software update 1109 now available.

Really? I like they are fixing/adding things, but at least update your site to state the current update and change log. Notice any changes?
post #907 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

Not how mine is setup. I can go to smart apps and I still here my Directv audio. Something has to tell me AVR to switch. I believe if I add a cable from the TV ARC port to my AVR ARC, then maybe this will work. I was just thinking outloud on what I hope my end result will be.

My TV automatically tells my AVR to switch back and forth. What kind of AVR do you have? Did you turn on HDMI communication in the AVR (if it offers it)?
post #908 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

Maybe you missed my post earlier but you can get rid of this message by going to the Samsung Universal Remote settings on the TV and remove your STB from the list. I got the suggestion from another thread and it does work for me.

Wouldn't this mean that the TV no longer control the STB and it will stop offering guide information? Does the Smart Hub display the channel if you delete the STB? I'm not sure if deleting the STB is the ideal solution.
post #909 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

Maybe you missed my post earlier but you can get rid of this message by going to the Samsung Universal Remote settings on the TV and remove your STB from the list. I got the suggestion from another thread and it does work for me.

Isn't that only a "fix" if you're not actually using the Universal Remote option? Seems like if someone is using it the pop-up is still an issue. It's possible their support lines were being flooded by people who weren't getting a picture and had no clue why. The pop-up was probably a response to user confusion, albeit at our expense.
post #910 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

My TV automatically tells my AVR to switch back and forth. What kind of AVR do you have? Did you turn on HDMI communication in the AVR (if it offers it)?

You are probably using CEC on the AVR and TV? I have a universal remote, so I like to be able to control what device does what. I have read too many glitches and headaches when it comes to getting CEC to work between different brands and or reliably. If you have a simple setup, I can see using it.
post #911 of 5626
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

Wait, so explain what you did. You're saying that the cable box not converting the signal (and just keeping it at 1080i regardless) will allow every HD display to still be what it is, and not have the long delay between channel changes?

And what did this have to do with the TV itself?
A couple of us were discussing the stb timeout popup message on our 8500's. Yarrumc suggested a way to prevent this annoying popup message, but I decided to just fix my stb's video output to 1080i(from its former native screen output), which removed a 3-4 second delay where my 8500 screen goes black before switching to a tv channel with a different native resolution than the previous channel I was viewing. That was an up-conversion delay in the 8500. Since my tv now doesn't need to do the up-conversion (it will only need to de-interlace from 1080i to 1080p), my channel switching is real snappy. It also got rid of the stb timeout popup msgs on my 8500.

Who knows....maybe the new 1109 firmware solves the stb timeout msg. I just downloaded it, but will still leave my stb at a fixed 1080i resolution (as opposed to native), to eliminate the blank screen delays when switching channels.
Edited by DanF8500 - 7/31/13 at 9:52am
post #912 of 5626
Correct. I guess this is only a fix/workaround if you are not using the Universal Remote feature of the TV. In this case, it is finding the right connectivity combination (as mentioned earlier as another solution) to rid of that message.
post #913 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

Correct. I guess this is only a fix/workaround if you are not using the Universal Remote feature of the TV. In this case, it is finding the right connectivity combination (as mentioned earlier as another solution) to rid of that message.

Did you try my suggestion? Connect the STB to HDMI1?
post #914 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

You are probably using CEC on the AVR and TV? I have a universal remote, so I like to be able to control what device does what. I have read too many glitches and headaches when it comes to getting CEC to work between different brands and or reliably. If you have a simple setup, I can see using it.

I use Harmony One with CEC and I have no issues other than the TV changing to TV/CD input on initial start up. I've resolved that by connecting the STB to HDMI1 and AVR to HDMI 3. Now it no longer switches to TV/CD if the input is not the STB.
post #915 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

Did you try my suggestion? Connect the STB to HDMI1?

I may try this when I get a chance. If you have your STB going straight to the TV, then how are you getting your audio back to the AVR? Are you using HDMI 3 (ARC)?
post #916 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

I may try this when I get a chance. If you have your STB going straight to the TV, then how are you getting your audio back to the AVR? Are you using HDMI 3 (ARC)?

I see that you answered my question in the previous post. Thanks.
post #917 of 5626
I have another question that I had from messing with this stuff last night. Has anyone been able to control the SmartHub via a Harmony remote? Do we have to keep the TV remote around to use the SmartHub?
post #918 of 5626
I can use the smart hub with a Harmony One remote. You just need to set up four directional buttons in the "virtual buttons" - aka touch screen part of the remote. I made up, down, left, and right buttons to scroll around the smart hub, and other menus of the 8500.

Cant wait to go home and try putting my STB on HDMI1 to see if all my issues go away! AVR switching to TV input on start up and that stupid STB message on the TV...

P.S I watched I.Robot last night and that movie looks amazing! top 10 in my book
post #919 of 5626
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Originally Posted by yarrumc View Post

Really? I like they are fixing/adding things, but at least update your site to state the current update and change log. Notice any changes?

I haven't noticed any changes good or bad.
post #920 of 5626
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Originally Posted by rflores5432 View Post

New software update 1109 now available.

I just checked the Samsung web site and it is still showing 1105.2 as the latest firmware for me on the site. I am in the US just as a point of reference.

I have not checked my TV itself to see if it says there is an upgrade available.

Phil
post #921 of 5626
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Originally Posted by philwojo View Post

I just checked the Samsung web site and it is still showing 1105.2 as the latest firmware for me on the site. I am in the US just as a point of reference.

I have not checked my TV itself to see if it says there is an upgrade available.

Phil

I am also in the US. Under Support, Software Update, Firmware shows 1109 and the update has installed. The update did not change any of my calibration nor settings.

Also, when I access my Samsung account, it also indicates 1105.2 the latest firmware to download to USB.
Edited by DaveC56 - 7/31/13 at 3:01pm
post #922 of 5626
I got the new Software Update today 1109
post #923 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

I use Harmony One with CEC and I have no issues other than the TV changing to TV/CD input on initial start up. I've resolved that by connecting the STB to HDMI1 and AVR to HDMI 3. Now it no longer switches to TV/CD if the input is not the STB.

CEC should work well with ARC if you use optical from the TV to the AVR for TV source material.

[edited]
Edited by pieandchips - 8/1/13 at 8:15am
post #924 of 5626
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Originally Posted by vmaxed View Post

I got the new Software Update today 1109

1109?

Wow, they are pumping them out. I'm still on 1105.
I'd really like to know what they do!!!

Please Samsung, if you're reading this, let us know accurately what they update.
post #925 of 5626
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Any idea where is F8500 being made from? I saw the sticker at the back, it says "Made in Korea". I assume Panasonic is all made in China now ?

Nah mexicans are building them . Thats why they have fan issues , the fan is made in china

And the update to fix the fan is some puffy foam, sounds like that tv was nothing but a quick frankenstein project to get something out quick to compete with samsung

The smart functions on the samsungs are light years ahead of panasonics. Btw dont but their appliances they need help also
post #926 of 5626
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

CEC should work well if you use optical from the TV to the AVR for TV source material.

I don't want to use an optical cable when the existing HDMI works fine. Also, optical will not transmit Dolby HD or DTS.

Adding additional steps to my Harmony routine at the end has fixed the start up issue. For TV, add change INPUT to HDMI1 for TV, HDMI3 for PC, HDMI2 for PS3. Putting it at the end allows the Harmony to override any quirks the TV does on its initial start up.

I am still waiting for the ultimate remote from Harmony that combines bluetooth with keyboard functionality.
post #927 of 5626
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Originally Posted by DaveC56 View Post

The update did not change any of my calibration nor settings.

It is worth noting that most times the firmware updates do not change the values you have set, but rather it is possible that they can change some core values that you cannot see which in turn off-set the calibration values.
This has happened once only I believe with 1103 when they fixed the 2D brightness pops and required a new calibration for those with calibrated sets or more adjustments for those without calibration.

3D pops are still to be fixed, unless someone can clarify they are with 1109, and IF they are, I wonder whether anything changed has affected the 2D core values.
-This is the inherent problem of going in blind with firmware updates and Samsung not being transparent in what the updates do.
Edited by pieandchips - 8/1/13 at 8:38am
post #928 of 5626
Are people using Black Optimizer set to Dark Room, or turning it Off? I noticed Chad B. initially mentioned turning it on would have inconsistent black levels, but if there aren't any more brightness pops since 1103, is this still an issue?

And any reason to set it to Auto? I never prefer using things with Auto (exactly for that issue of inconsistency), but maybe this is an exception?
post #929 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cyphron View Post

I don't want to use an optical cable when the existing HDMI works fine. Also, optical will not transmit Dolby HD or DTS.

The Samsung Hub portal does not play any material in HD or DTS.
I use optical for the hub transport only, I do not play anything through the TV's USB port as I have a HTPC that deals with all HD or DTS material.

Your solution with Harmony macros works for you which is great, although it is a little 'clunky/dirty' and something I would not personally aspire to.
post #930 of 5626
Apparently samsung has fixed the issue with the complimentary remote control for PNxxF8500 owners, no more invalid request
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