Originally Posted by Torqdog
Yesterday I was feeling a bit of sympathy for you Brian. But today, your continued insistence that we are wasting our money is starting to get a little old and long in the tooth. I mean seriously, what difference does it make to YOU
whether someone else goes out and spends gobs of money on, in your opinion, "useless" subwoofers.
With this in mind I have come to the conclusion that;
1) You are suffering a major case of envy and are fiscally unable to satisfy the urge to improve your system. So instead, you somehow justify this inability to improve by proclaiming that those of us who have high quality stuff are somehow stupid for spending that kind of money. Does it make you feel better?
2) I don't like throwing this description around but maybe sickboy013 was accurate when he labeled you a troll. Why else would you be spending soooooo much time trying to convince us, on a subwoofer forum
of all places that we're somehow stupid for spending money on quality subwoofers.
3) You haven't actually ever tasted the good stuff and therefore know nothing of what you speak. Yet, armed with your lack of knowledge you seem to think it important to inform the rest of us how ignorant and stupid we are for thinking we can hear a difference. Again, sounds like trolling to me.
They have a place on this planet where your kind of mindset is accepted by the masses. Where everyone is on an equal footing, no-one better, no-one worse....... everyone gets the same stuff. It's called North Korea.
I've wasted enough time on this thread. Enjoy your BIC.
If it works for you thats fine. I am not envying anything. I havent noticed the difference in the more pricey subwoofer to envy it. Its not about the money, as you can clearly see, I am not saying do NOT get a subwoofer, I am merely saying you should consider spending the money on a sub to a better front speakers. And also, it is better to get 2 or 3 subwoofers than one pricey one. (as Beeman suggested) to me, this sounds more logical and understanable since the bass at low volumes (presence) will be felt more with 2 or 3 subwoofers working (hence two subs on opposite sides will cover more room and have more presence/physically speaking as well) than one.
I am not talking about dirt cheap subwoofers that bottoms out all the time. I am talking about the Klipsche's the BIC's the entry model HSU's. I am merely saying I would rather get a 2 or 3 BIC's or an enetry level HSU's over a $1000 1x Outlaws or a higher end model of the Hsu's. Or I would rather have 2x 8' Eneregy Subwoofers over 1x $400.00 Klipsch subwoofer.
Ultimately, I think its better to always have more subwoofer that cost less than one pricey subwoofer. I think its all the same with home theatre equipment I'm starting to notice.
Having two cheaper front speakers is better than having one expensive speaker that is on left or right side standing there alone (cosnidering this is for home THEATRE). The speaker there that is standing there alone will put out great details and and great volumes knowing that its pricey and well reviwed but it will never be room filling or have as much soundstage than two cheaper ones. (but is also well reviewed) However, sadly, this infact can be a poor example in comparison with speakers to subwoofer because with subwoofer, there isnt much to compromise as to your speakers. Like I said, with speakers, details and clarity CAN mean alot to your movie viewing, and its ON and playing throghout the whole movie, but with a sub, its merely a a little better BOOM or a WHAM (not even sure about that since i demoed bic to top of the line hsu) and it dosent get played nearly as much as your front speakers. I can actually compare them to sorround speakers, NOT as important as your fronts.
Alot of sound comes from the speakers than a subwoofer. A subwoofer can only produce so much bass in a movie. So if one were to compare the speakers "details", "clarity", to a subwoofer, I think from a subwoofers standpoint, it would be depth and and sounstage. (how room filling the sub would be) and that also would be covered more by 2 subwoofers than 1 pricey one.
Like I said, I demoed the top of the line sub's (hsu's/rythmics) and the big thumps and booms and whatnot, I honestly couldnt tell any difference with my $200.00 BIC-H100.
With louder levels it might be different I am not sure, from what I remember, it was pretty loud in there, and I assume from my experience that no one would even want to go higher than the volume played in the demo room. (it was pretty much a theatre level volume in there)
I do not really know about the technicalities and the frequency mumbo jambo, but from a logical sense from the outside, this makes much more sense.Edited by Brian323 - 6/2/13 at 2:40pm