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post #151 of 728
Well I'm assuming it's something that can always be added by MS at some point so maybe if they feel the pressure they'll 180 on this as well.
post #152 of 728
Still saying... They have changed the protocols for control on the Xbox One to the extent that the new controllers won't even work wired on PC until they write drivers for it. They have bigger fish to fry than addressing this one minor segment of their audience right now, even if I hope they satisfy people eventually or even by launch. But can we just let them put the damn system out first? tongue.gif
post #153 of 728
NO! Complain! Whine! B*tch! Moan! That's how we do it around here. tongue.gif
post #154 of 728
first announced wheel:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/21/mad-catz-announces-first-xbox-one-specific-racing-wheel



Mad Catz has been working the game's development team to deliver the company's new Force Feedback Racing Wheel, the first of its kind built specifically for the Xbox One.

The racing wheel features suede leather grips, Force Feedback motors, and a removable aluminum wheel face. A customizable Pedal Set is also included, which can be used to adjust spring resistance as well as the gas and brake pedals' height and spacing.

Pricing and availability for Mad Catz' Force Feedback Racing Wheel have yet to be announced, but you can expect to see it launch around the same time as the Xbox One this holiday season.
post #155 of 728
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first announced wheel:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/21/mad-catz-announces-first-xbox-one-specific-racing-wheel



Mad Catz has been working the game's development team to deliver the company's new Force Feedback Racing Wheel, the first of its kind built specifically for the Xbox One.

The racing wheel features suede leather grips, Force Feedback motors, and a removable aluminum wheel face. A customizable Pedal Set is also included, which can be used to adjust spring resistance as well as the gas and brake pedals' height and spacing.

Pricing and availability for Mad Catz' Force Feedback Racing Wheel have yet to be announced, but you can expect to see it launch around the same time as the Xbox One this holiday season.
Second announced wheel. The official wheel of Forza 5 is a Thrustmaster 458 linked earlier in the thread. http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-one/accessories/thrustmaster-ferrari-racing-wheel-458-italia-edition-xbox-one/111431
post #156 of 728
that's true. maybe more appropriately, first built specifically for Xbox One. smile.gif
post #157 of 728
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Still saying... They have changed the protocols for control on the Xbox One to the extent that the new controllers won't even work wired on PC until they write drivers for it. They have bigger fish to fry than addressing this one minor segment of their audience right now, even if I hope they satisfy people eventually or even by launch. But can we just let them put the damn system out first? tongue.gif

Why should people wait? If this issue isn't addressed pre-release and for the premier racing title on the console, it's never going to be.

Now is the time for people to be letting Microsoft know that this issue is important to them.
post #158 of 728
The people who blow off the whole Fanatec/MS situation obviously don't own a Fanatec wheel, so it's no big deal to them. For the rest of us, it's a huge deal, as the decision on buying an Xbone or not hinges on MS's policy. And you're damn right I'm gonna cry, whine and play "victim" until I get a straight answer from them one way or another. Leaving us twisting in the wind while they play politics is a lousy way to treat your customers. And it's all the whining that got so many of the Xbones stupid anti-consumer policies reversed. This is the one last 180 I need them to make before I buy in. The fact that their dragging their feet on the subject is incredibly aggravating.
post #159 of 728
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The people who blow off the whole Fanatec/MS situation obviously don't own a Fanatec wheel, so it's no big deal to them. For the rest of us, it's a huge deal, as the decision on buying an Xbone or not hinges on MS's policy. And you're damn right I'm gonna cry, whine and play "victim" until I get a straight answer from them one way or another. Leaving us twisting in the wind while they play politics is a lousy way to treat your customers. And it's all the whining that got so many of the Xbones stupid anti-consumer policies reversed. This is the one last 180 I need them to make before I buy in. The fact that their dragging their feet on the subject is incredibly aggravating.

How does that get you your answer here at AVSForum whining and crying about it? They are not seeing it here. Have you contacted anyone at MS? Major Nelson, Xbox Customer Support or post a thread at Xbox.com forums in the last 2 months that you brought this complaint up? Have you gotten on twitter and ask any of them about this issue?
post #160 of 728
What makes you think they're not also paying attention to communities around the internet where gamers gather and discuss gaming? I suspect issues being discussed around internet forums have a lot more impact than the avenues that you've mentioned and are only second to actual sales numbers in effectiveness in situations where people are discontented.

So the only way to make this work is to voice it so it can be seen. Calling Xbox Customer Support certainly isn't going to accomplish it.
Edited by Leo_Ames - 8/21/13 at 9:07pm
post #161 of 728
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How does that get you your answer here at AVSForum whining and crying about it? They are not seeing it here. Have you contacted anyone at MS? Major Nelson, Xbox Customer Support or post a thread at Xbox.com forums in the last 2 months that you brought this complaint up? Have you gotten on twitter and ask any of them about this issue?

Yeah, I asked Major Neslon about it, and he replied, " Have you seen Titanfall?"rolleyes.gif
post #162 of 728
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Yeah, I asked Major Neslon about it, and he replied, " Have you seen Titanfall?"rolleyes.gif

Hell yeah. Well, at least you got a response.
post #163 of 728
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Hell yeah. Well, at least you got a response.

I wouldn't be surprised if Major Nelson was a home theater enthusiast and Hemi guy.
post #164 of 728
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I wouldn't be surprised if Major Nelson was a home theater enthusiast and Hemi guy.

post #165 of 728
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The people who blow off the whole Fanatec/MS situation obviously don't own a Fanatec wheel, so it's no big deal to them. For the rest of us, it's a huge deal, as the decision on buying an Xbone or not hinges on MS's policy. And you're damn right I'm gonna cry, whine and play "victim" until I get a straight answer from them one way or another. Leaving us twisting in the wind while they play politics is a lousy way to treat your customers. And it's all the whining that got so many of the Xbones stupid anti-consumer policies reversed. This is the one last 180 I need them to make before I buy in. The fact that their dragging their feet on the subject is incredibly aggravating.

How does that get you your answer here at AVSForum whining and crying about it? They are not seeing it here. Have you contacted anyone at MS? Major Nelson, Xbox Customer Support or post a thread at Xbox.com forums in the last 2 months that you brought this complaint up? Have you gotten on twitter and ask any of them about this issue?

As far as asking MS is concerned its been brought up tons of times on their Facebook and twitter pages and also Xbox forums. And we get no response. Every time it's brought up on T10 forums they lock the thread and tell us we can't discuss it there. When its brought up on Forza Facebook it's ignored. All we ask for is a answer. They are making it worse by their silence.

But because of my business background I believe I have a pretty good idea as to why we get no answer. Thrustmaster and MadCatz are official partners with MS and Fanatec isn't. I believe they won't resolve this issue until early 2014. This allows Thrustmaster and MadCatz to get thru the holiday shopping season with little competition. Then a resolution will be announced. That's why I'll wait this out. Oh, and also because the two wheels revealed so far a junk, IMO. Definitely not the quality of my Fanatec wheels.
post #166 of 728
only if M$ would support hid protocol from usb. (it's x86 architecture after all which it's pretty much windows 8 on xbone, support HID compliant devices should be easy.... THANK YOU SONY) fanatec wheels could be supported on xbone with no problem. I won't buy forza 5 if my only options are mad catz, and a thrustmaster wheel that doesn't have sq/6spd shifters and a clutch.
post #167 of 728
The latest from Fanatec at http://www.911wheel.de/?q=node/10230
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A few people are wondering why we are so quiet.
We will not make the mistake again to mention new things too early. We
will announce something new if production is about to start. We are
working on several products for several platforms and every one of our
new products will set a new benchmark as they did in the past.
We
are also trying hard to protect the investment of our existing customers
by making our current products upwards compatible. But we cannot
confirm that before the final consoles are released.
post #168 of 728
See? Even they want you to wait until the things are released! biggrin.gif
post #169 of 728
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post #170 of 728
They're just saying that we can't expect any answers for a while. Not that we should be keeping quiet or not care.
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http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gc_forza_5_gameplay-14463_en.html

Gamescom 1080p60fps footage available for download
post #175 of 728
I was watching this video... and it got me thinking if they're still going to have retain the multiple display feature for the Xbox One. it's such a niche feature but it's just so cool...

this is a guy that has money to spend and loves his Forza Motorsport 4...
post #176 of 728
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Originally Posted by onlysublime View Post

I was watching this video... and it got me thinking if they're still going to have retain the multiple display feature for the Xbox One. it's such a niche feature but it's just so cool...

this is a guy that has money to spend and loves his Forza Motorsport 4...

Wow!! Those clothes that he sells has a serious number of pockets in them.
post #177 of 728
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Originally Posted by onlysublime View Post

I was watching this video... and it got me thinking if they're still going to have retain the multiple display feature for the Xbox One. it's such a niche feature but it's just so cool...

this is a guy that has money to spend and loves his Forza Motorsport 4...

I have seen better setups. His monitors should be tight together. His pedals and shifter are low end Fanatec. They make much better stuff. I hope this is a old video. Otherwise he's bragging on a system that can be improved a lot. And he doesn't need a second receiver to listen to something other than his game track. A quality AV receiver let's you pick a different audio source from the video source. I do it all the time.
post #178 of 728
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Originally Posted by Leo_Ames View Post

What makes you think they're not also paying attention to communities around the internet where gamers gather and discuss gaming? I suspect issues being discussed around internet forums have a lot more impact than the avenues that you've mentioned and are only second to actual sales numbers in effectiveness in situations where people are discontented.

Calling Xbox Customer Support certainly isn't going to accomplish it.

100% agree!!
post #179 of 728
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I have seen better setups. His monitors should be tight together. His pedals and shifter are low end Fanatec. They make much better stuff. I hope this is a old video. Otherwise he's bragging on a system that can be improved a lot. And he doesn't need a second receiver to listen to something other than his game track. A quality AV receiver let's you pick a different audio source from the video source. I do it all the time.

Is it too hard to just be happy for the guy and say 'way to go you have a cool looking setup'?
post #180 of 728
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I have seen better setups. His monitors should be tight together. His pedals and shifter are low end Fanatec. They make much better stuff. I hope this is a old video. Otherwise he's bragging on a system that can be improved a lot. And he doesn't need a second receiver to listen to something other than his game track. A quality AV receiver let's you pick a different audio source from the video source. I do it all the time.

Is it too hard to just be happy for the guy and say 'way to go you have a cool looking setup'?

To me he came off as a big douche. Sorry that's just my opinion. I'm entitled to have one just as you are. He started off by saying, "I've got thee coolest Xbox setup bar none.". And quite frankly it's not. I've seen many better.
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