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post #331 of 728
Doesn't look like they did a very good job with the IndyCar. Doesn't sound right and it doesn't really look like they have the basic handling characteristics of it down. Hopefully it's better with a proper wheel since that's obviously gamepad gameplay.

Le Mans is confirmed and includes the option of running with the current chicane layout, bypassing the chicanes on the 5 mile Mulsanne straight, and an option to run on the short Bugatti layout.

Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/1/13 at 9:11am
post #332 of 728
Looks like there is a new direct feed video of Sebring in Forza 5. here is the video:

I like what I see in such that the trackside detail looks much improved, from textures to the scenery itself. ALthough the track is recognizable, the trackside looks very improved, along with other touches of course.

Outtie
post #333 of 728
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/50-forza-5-car-pass-detailed/1100-6415952/

$50 Forza 5 Car Pass detailed
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Microsoft today provided more details on the Forza Motorsport 5 Car Pass, the digital offering announced last week for Turn 10's Xbox One title that includes access to dozens of vehicles. Chief among the new details is information about pricing, with Microsoft revealing the pass will sell for $50 and feature multiple car packs.

Each Car Pack will include ten cars, and the first will arrive alongside Forza 5 at launch on November 22. Subsequent packs will be available the first week of every month, starting in January 2014 and running through March 2014.

The first expansion, the LaFerrari Car Pack, introduces ten vehicles, including the 950 horsepower LaFerrari that has yet to be released in the real world. The other nine cars will be announced on November 18, Microsoft said.

Individual cars will be available for purchase separately, but Microsoft said buying the $50 pass will allow players to save 18 percent compared to purchasing individually. For the first time in the history of the franchise, every vehicle in Forza 5 will be available in Forzavista mode. This will allow users to explore the inside and outside of every car, Microsoft said.

Forza 5 will run in 1080p at 60 frames-per-second, Microsoft confirmed earlier this year. Last year's Forza Horizon also had a $50 DLC pass.
post #334 of 728
Wow!! this is going to get expensive quickly. I'll already be spending $50 for a COD pass, now with Forza 5 that's another $50 on top of the cost of the game, But I guess it is still cheaper in the long run than getting everything separately.

I was thinking $360 in my XBL account was going to be enough for my XBOne this year. But I think now I'm going to need to add more money to it with these passes that they offer for some of the games,
post #335 of 728
In fairness, look at how much DLC they provided for Forza 4 over its lifespan. It was like $3 per car and $6 for car packs, and there were a bunch of them (and those didn't even come with ForzaVista mode support). At least this time, they're letting the hardcore racers buy it all at once at a discount. Or you can just buy the cars a la carte again, probably. I'm only gonna buy something if it catches my eye... but then, I'm not a hardcore racer.
post #336 of 728
I got an e-mail from Xbox about Forza 5, and it includes a code to unlock the 2010 Audi Forza Motorsport R8 5.2 FSI Quattro, but the code doesn't work. Is anyone else having a problem? Do I need to wait until the One is released to redeem it?
post #337 of 728
Perhaps it's a code you have to enter within Forza 5 rather than a Xbox Live redemption code?
post #338 of 728
Maybe. It is the typical xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx code format they use for all of their stuff. That's why I figured I'd try to redeem it now so I can delete the e-mail before I forget all about it.
post #339 of 728
Hey There,

Dunno if you guys have seen these, but there is yet new direct footage, this time Silverstone and Indianapolis Speedway. Vides are below for you. Enjoy:


SILVERSTONE:


INDIANAPOLIS SPEEDWAY

Outtie
post #340 of 728
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Originally Posted by dbburns View Post

Maybe. It is the typical xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx code format they use for all of their stuff. That's why I figured I'd try to redeem it now so I can delete the e-mail before I forget all about it.

If you read the email it says only good for Forza 5. Also says can't be given to anyone else.
post #341 of 728
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Originally Posted by freemeat View Post

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/50-forza-5-car-pass-detailed/1100-6415952/

$50 Forza 5 Car Pass detailed

I'm so excited about the LaFerrari pack! If you guys haven't seen my posts before on the subject, this is my perfect car. This is my dream car. It's the most beautiful Ferrari ever. And a hybrid to boot.
post #342 of 728
$50 for car packs through March 2014?

Does that mean DLC ends at that point despite the usual 2 year Forza release schedule or that future DLC packs will cost more money?
post #343 of 728
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Anderson View Post

I'm only gonna buy something if it catches my eye... but then, I'm not a hardcore racer.

yeah, I only buy cars if they pique my interest. there are more than enough cars to make me happy. If I see the Scion FR-S as DLC, I'll get that. MR2's also. But I'll definitely get the LaFerrari.
post #344 of 728
I'll do what I did with Horizon; i.e. buy individual cars I wanted instead of a pack. I paid more per car but still spent less because I had no desire to purchase an entire pack.
post #345 of 728
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Originally Posted by pcweber111 View Post

I'll do what I did with Horizon; i.e. buy individual cars I wanted instead of a pack. I paid more per car but still spent less because I had no desire to purchase an entire pack.

Will Forza 5 do the same thing as Forza Horizon? In Horizon I purchased any car it recommended for me to have for a race. Does Forza 5 work the same way where it will recommend a car based on the track and race?

I'm personally not into cars and with driving in the real world I hate driving sports cars and convertibles. But I do like the racing games so whichever car is the best one to have for a specific race I will get. And Horizon made it easy by telling me which car I should have. I don't want to have to figure it out on my own.
post #346 of 728
Sounds like Nurburgring/Nordschleife won't be ready until January but is being redone rather than just a graphics makeover. Also hearing three layouts so that should mean that we can drive the combined layout at long last in a Forza game instead of only one or other.

Wonder if Forza 4 will soon get a budget Ultimate Edition. This is about that time when Forza 2 and 3 were rereleased with the DLC bundled in at a reduced price.
post #347 of 728
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I'm personally not into cars and with driving in the real world I hate driving sports cars and convertibles. But I do like the racing games so whichever car is the best one to have for a specific race I will get. And Horizon made it easy by telling me which car I should have. I don't want to have to figure it out on my own.

I would love to try driving convertibles with the new lighting. convertibles were my favorite things in Horizon because of the great cockpit view. Actually, there are some "convertibles" from Horizon I would love in Forza. They're not the best for actually winning races but they were so fun for exploration which Horizon excelled at.

like the Radical...


or the Jaguar...
post #348 of 728
thanks to mboojigga for finding this... this game is looking great!
post #349 of 728
Sounds like today is when the real details of the game will be revealed. Should be interesting to see how things match up with the vehicle and track rosters and the feature sets between this and the last gen competitor that just had those details revealed yesterday.
post #350 of 728
14 tracks at release compared to 26 with Forza 4. And while not an entirely fair comparison since it's a last gen platform heavily recycling assets from an earlier game, Gran Turismo 6 gets 39 unique circuits (Not layouts) and something like 1200 cars. Those in bold will appear in both products at launch.

Bernese Alps
Catalunya
Spa
Indianapolis
Le Mans
Laguna Seca
Mount Panorama
Prague
Road Atlanta
Sebring
Silverstone
Test Track Airfield
Top Gear test track
Yas Marina

New additions are Spa, Bathurst, Prague, Yas Marina (Could they have picked a more sterile modern track?), and I assume Test Track Airfield is new or at least a rename of something else.

And just over 200 cars compared to 500 in Forza 5.

I sure hope a lot of stuff comes via DLC.
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/6/13 at 2:16pm
post #351 of 728
Why couldn't they just re-use all the FM4 cars? What are they lacking, surely not the poly-count. Everything about this game screams rushed.
post #352 of 728
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-06-why-forza-motorsport-5-has-less-cars-and-tracks-than-forza-4

For $50 more, you get 60 more vehicles (A launch car pack and a pack each month for the first five months of 2014). And like I said the other day and this article mentions, there's rumors of the Nurburgring being added via DLC. So maybe we will get at least one more track.

I hope they've pared down career mode dramatically. There's not nearly enough courses here to sustain 40 or 50 hours of time. Twice as many tracks and 15 hours in I already feel like I've raced each 15 times. So I hope it's more like 20-25 hours.

Here's the track casualties (tracks from Forza 4 not returning). 4 of these have been in every entry to date.

Amalfi (Forza 3 & 4)
Benchmark High Speed Ring (3 & 4)
Camino Viejo de Montserrat (3 & 4)
Fujimi Kaido (1 & in truncated form 3 & 4)
Hockenheimring (4)
Iberian (3 & 4)
Infineon (4)
Ladera (3 & 4)
Maple Valley Raceway (1-4)
Mugello (2-4)
Nordschleife (1-4)
Nurburgring Grand Prix Circuit (3 & 4)
Road America (1-4)
Sedona (3 & 4)
Sunset Peninsula (1-4)
Suzuka (2-4)
Twin Ring Motegi (2-4)
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/6/13 at 6:30pm
post #353 of 728
Here's the car list. I sure wish these companies wouldn't pad these. Second and third on the list are just two different paint schemes for instance. So at least a half dozen of these are in actuality the exact same vehicle.

2013 Toyota GT8
2013 Dallara #9 Target Ganassi Dallara DW12
2012 Dallara #28 Andretti Autosport DW12
2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
2011 Holden #1 Toll Holden Racing Team Commodore VE
1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
2011 Ford #5 Ford Performance Racing FG Falcon
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 Hemi
1998 Toyota Supra RZ
2012 BMW M5
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
1992 Honda NSX-R
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
2013 Subaru BRZ
2011 Citroen DS3 Racing
1986 Lancia Delta S4
2012 Lotus Exige S
2013 Mercedes-Benz G65 AMG
1981 BMW M1
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinet
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
2013 Audi RS 7
2013 Mazda MX-5 Miata
2014 Ford Fiesta ST
2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
2009 Honda S2000 CR
1987 Ferrari F40
2009 Peugeot #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908
2011 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
2011 Holden HSV GTS
2010 Abarth 500 esseesse
1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1970 Nissan Datsun 510
1971 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
2008 BMW M3
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1995 Ferrari F50
1995 RUF CTR2
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
2010 Aston Martin One-77
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
2009 Ford Focus RS
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1960 Chevrolet Corvette
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2005 Honda NSX-R
2011 Infiniti IPL G Coupe
2012 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged
2005 BMW M3
1997 BMW M3
1963 Volkswagen Beetle
2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
2004 Honda Civic Type-R
1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe
2009 Mini Cooper John Cooper Works
2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
1994 Nissan 240SX SE
2012 Hennessey Venom
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1997 Mazda RX-7
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
2011 Audi RS 5 Coupé
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
1992 Volkswagen Golf Gti 16v Mk2
1984 Ferrari GTO
1961 Jaguar E-type S1
1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396
2010 Lexus LFA
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2009 Lexus IS F
2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2012 Jaguar XKR-S
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition
2011 Ferrari 599 GTO
2011 Koenigsegg Agera
2013 Audi S4
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
2013 Viper #91 SRT Motorsport GTS-R
2010 Audi R8 Coupé 5.2 FSI quattro
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
1991 BMW M3
2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2011 Subaru WRX STI
2005 Ford Ford GT
2009 Lotus 2-Eleven
2011 RUF Rt 12 S
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
2004 Saleen S7
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
1968 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
1964 Aston Martin DB5
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2007 Honda Civic Type-R
1983 Audi Sport Quattro
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
2010 Nissan370Z
2010 Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
2006 Audi RS 4
2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
2010 Volkswagen Golf R
2007 Ford Shelby GT500
2010 Ferrari 458 Italia
2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2010 Renault Megane RS 250
2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track
2011 BMW X5 M
2011 BMW Z4 sDrive35is
1997 Honda Civic Type R
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2008 Aston Martin DBS
2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2012 Hyundai Veloster Turbo
2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1991 GMC Syclone
1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
2005 Dodge SRT4 ACR
2010 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
2011 Peugeot 308 GTI
1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS 454
2003 BMW M5
1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
1993 McLaren F1
1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
1965 MINI Cooper S
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8
2010 Audi TT RS Coupé
2012 Scion tC
2009 Jeep Cherokee SRT8
2011 Kia Cee'd
2005 TVR Sagaris
1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2008 Ferrari California
2000 Ford SVT Cobra R
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
1971 AMC Javelin-AMX
1976 McLaren #11 Team McLaren M23
1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia 312T2
2013 Honda #9 Target Chip Ganassi Dallara DW12
2013 Honda #15 Rahal Letterman Lanigan Dallara DW12
2013 Chevrolet #1 Andretti Autosport Dallara DW12
2013 Chevrolet #12 Team Penske Dallara DW12
2012 Audi #1 Audi Sport Team Joest R18 e-tron quattro
2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta
2013 McLaren P1™
1954 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2012 Pagani Huayra
2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
2013 Ford Focus ST
2011 McLaren MP4-12C
2010 Audi R8 5.2 Coupé FSI quattro
2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
2011 Audi RS 3 Sportback
2013 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
2013 Viper GTS
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird
1991 Mazda #55 787B
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/6/13 at 2:11pm
post #354 of 728
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Originally Posted by Leo_Ames View Post

14 tracks at release compared to 26 with Forza 4

Bernese Alps
Catalunya
Spa
Indianapolis
Le Mans
Laguna Seca
Mount Panorama
Prague
Road Atlanta
Sebring
Silverstone
Test Track Airfield
Top Gear test track
Yas Marina

And just over 200 cars compared to 500 in Forza 5.

I sure hope a lot of stuff comes via DLC.

It's resource allocation. You also get get the AutoVista on every car. I'd like more tracks but eh it's what it is. I fully expect Forza 6 to be a more fully fleshed out game since it won't be under the rush of being a launch game.
post #355 of 728
I'll be honest, I am a bit shocked about the amount of tracks being offered. 14 is not a lot at all. Well be repeating so many of them in no time.

I really wish they'd offer track packs this time around, and not just cars. As for the "ring", for me it's almost like Laguna Seca, how many times do I have to play it in a racing game.

Although I am excited about this game still, I can't feel a bit disappointed with the small number of tracks. The car number never bothers me as I never get ALL the cars anyhow, as I find one I like and stick to it for that class or race series. I wish we knew why the small number of tracks though. It does concern me for gamplay length as I don't want to get bored.

I am going to keep my fingers crossed for a few track packs or something like that, as the Forza Faithful deserve it as it's always been such a great game.

Cheers,

Outtie
post #356 of 728
If they do release track packs, they better integrate them into career mode for replacements of certain events. If it's like Road America and Motegi on Forza 2, they'd be all but useless since you never touched them in career and so few had them online that you never got to use them.

While the Ring has seen a lot of usage since Grand Prix Legends introduced it to the videogame world back in 1998, I think it's a shame it's not here. Such a challenging track and I think the jump would be incredible if properly recreated in their new engine with their new scanning techniques. The Forza series really has never done this classic circuit justice in the past.
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Originally Posted by pcweber111 View Post

It's resource allocation. You also get get the AutoVista on every car. I'd like more tracks but eh it's what it is. I fully expect Forza 6 to be a more fully fleshed out game since it won't be under the rush of being a launch game.

Autovista isn't something that has to be programmed specifically for each car. All they do is plop down the car model into a 3D environment and little else where a particular car model is concerned.

And for the average Forza fan, I really doubt Autovista will represent much time spent in Forza 5. Perhaps 25% will be enthralled, 25% will use it occasionally, and I bet 50% try it once or twice and think "neat" and then just stick to actually playing the game.

I'm glad it's there just like I'm glad custom paint jobs are there and replays are there. But it's something that will only appeal to a small niche of consumers and I really doubt Autovista mode has accounted for even 5% of Turn 10's man hours.
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/6/13 at 2:48pm
post #357 of 728
I was at a special event here just outside of Vancouver, BC, where the first Microsoft Store in BC is opening this week. My 7 year old son got to play Forza 5 on the Xbox One on a BIG screen, and I thought the picture was kinda cool, alas I wanted to share it with you.



He was drawn to the game as he plays Forza 4 on the EB Games 360 demo unit they have at the store. He doesn't get a lot of time on my (Dad) 360 in the home theatre. He can't wait to tell his friends at school.

Cheers,

Outtie
Edited by The Outcast - 11/7/13 at 6:54am
post #358 of 728
Bah no Jeeps =P
post #359 of 728
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post #360 of 728
I'm hoping we get Nurburgring as a DLC course since it's so iconic and many expect it in the game.
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