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post #361 of 728
No Fanatec support means no support from me for FM5 no way I'm downgrading my rig to plastic crap to play an arcade race like FM5

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Funny that FM5 is about the ONLY racing title that doesn't work with this rig. By the time Fanatec have made a
quality mutli platform XBOX ONE wheel FM5 will be too old to bother. They lost sales to thw ehole Fanatec community
what a stupid decision , Larry Hyrb even had to disable the comments under the racing accessories in his blog, wonder why? They
never shut down positive responses.
post #362 of 728
^^^Nice to see you buddy!
post #363 of 728
Hey Migraine! I expect all the missing features and cars will return for FM6 on hopefully a XO/PC CSW by then. Maybe they'll even have dynamic time and weather by then too! I'd like to see them make FM6 the mother of all forza's with the night time tracks from FM1 of Vancouver ship yards, Tokyo and New York full.
Sad I'll have to skip my first forza title ever, I have all 4 in the bookcase next to me. Oh well, I have Assetto Corsa and Project Cars to look forward to!
Edited by Percuvius - 11/7/13 at 10:06am
post #364 of 728
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Originally Posted by Percuvius View Post

No Fanatec support means no support from me for FM5 no way I'm downgrading my rig to plastic crap to play an arcade race like FM5

jJN5BMBSyQnyP.jpg

jeqYPGP6Or8tG.jpg

jb1CcQ5Mjna2ZX.jpg


Funny that FM5 is about the ONLY racing title that doesn't work with this rig. By the time Fanatec have made a
quality mutli platform XBOX ONE wheel FM5 will be too old to bother. They lost sales to thw ehole Fanatec community
what a stupid decision , Larry Hyrb even had to disable the comments under the racing accessories in his blog, wonder why? They
never shut down positive responses.

Where did you get the additional control box (on the left hand side of your wheel)? and do you know if it is compatible with the standard CSR wheel?

Many Thanks

Scott
post #365 of 728
*cough* right side *cough* smile.gif

It's a DSD Track Boss button box, it doesn't connect to the wheel, it connects via USB so it's for PC titles.
If you wish to order one go to http://www.derekspearedesigns.com/
post #366 of 728
Whoops right side it is, must have been looking at my screen upside down.

Thanks I'll have a look.
post #367 of 728
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Originally Posted by Percuvius View Post

No Fanatec support means no support from me for FM5 no way I'm downgrading my rig to plastic crap to play an arcade race like FM5

jJN5BMBSyQnyP.jpg

jeqYPGP6Or8tG.jpg

jb1CcQ5Mjna2ZX.jpg


Funny that FM5 is about the ONLY racing title that doesn't work with this rig. By the time Fanatec have made a
quality mutli platform XBOX ONE wheel FM5 will be too old to bother. They lost sales to thw ehole Fanatec community
what a stupid decision , Larry Hyrb even had to disable the comments under the racing accessories in his blog, wonder why? They
never shut down positive responses.

Holy cow man, does that tach, iPad and those buttons all work in real time?
post #368 of 728
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Originally Posted by Percuvius View Post

Hey Migraine! I expect all the missing features and cars will return for FM6 on hopefully a XO/PC CSW by then. Maybe they'll even have dynamic time and weather by then too! I'd like to see them make FM6 the mother of all forza's with the night time tracks from FM1 of Vancouver ship yards, Tokyo and New York full.
Sad I'll have to skip my first forza title ever, I have all 4 in the bookcase next to me. Oh well, I have Assetto Corsa and Project Cars to look forward to!

I have to say this will also be the first Forza title I will be skipping. The lackluster track and car variety coupled with no dynamic weather and time cycle are really off-putting to me.
post #369 of 728
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Originally Posted by Percuvius View Post

No Fanatec support means no support from me for FM5 no way I'm downgrading my rig to plastic crap to play an arcade race like FM5

jJN5BMBSyQnyP.jpg

jeqYPGP6Or8tG.jpg

jb1CcQ5Mjna2ZX.jpg


Funny that FM5 is about the ONLY racing title that doesn't work with this rig. By the time Fanatec have made a
quality mutli platform XBOX ONE wheel FM5 will be too old to bother. They lost sales to thw ehole Fanatec community
what a stupid decision , Larry Hyrb even had to disable the comments under the racing accessories in his blog, wonder why? They
never shut down positive responses.

Holy cow man, does that tach, iPad and those buttons all work in real time?

I'll let him give the details but the short answer is yes. I know him pretty well. He's serious about his rig.
post #370 of 728
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Originally Posted by Smigro View Post

Holy cow man, does that tach, iPad and those buttons all work in real time?

Yes, on PC racing games they do. The shift light also works on the tach and is fully programmable. I can light the tach up in my choice of 7 different colours too.
The digital dash is a Nexus 7 running Dash Meter Pro.

Here is a video of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA1pzMVdbtE
post #371 of 728
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Originally Posted by Percuvius View Post

Yes, on PC racing games they do. The shift light also works on the tach and is fully programmable. I can light the tach up in my choice of 7 different colours too.
The digital dash is a Nexus 7 running Dash Meter Pro.

Here is a video of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA1pzMVdbtE

That is an awesome setup...can't even imagine the time and money you have wrapped up in that. One of these days I hope to at least get myself a rig but not for a while until they straighten out the next gen accessories.
post #372 of 728
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Originally Posted by Smigro View Post

That is an awesome setup...can't even imagine the time and money you have wrapped up in that. One of these days I hope to at least get myself a rig but not for a while until they straighten out the next gen accessories.

Thanks, it's a lot of fun and makes the driving so much more immersive. My advice to anyone right now is to be patient and see what happens when the next gen consoles are out in terms of compatibilities.
post #373 of 728
Didn't they give official word just a couple of weeks ago? I suppose things could theoretically change (Although I think a non approved solution created by the community to get around their restrictive controller licensing is more likely if a solution to Fanatec compatibility ever happens), but there's essentially no reason to keep up hope at this time.

I hope they heavily improve this during the next two years with added DLC (Especially tracks) so that by the time I jump in, what they're releasing soon is more like Forza 5 Prologue than Forza 5.
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/9/13 at 11:36pm
post #374 of 728
I got to play forza at the Microsoft store yesterday. The controller was awesome I'm really excited about the game. I first played with the Audi with the default assists on and one the one lap race at laguna seca. Then I tried the mclaren p1 with manual trans, no abs, etc and it was a whole different beast. The game looked so incredible but felt even better. The feed back in the triggers was really cool. You could tell when you were loosing traction and going of the road. I was going to get the ps4 only till next spring but I really want to scratch that sim driving itch so ill pony up.
post #375 of 728
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Originally Posted by sharp360 View Post

I got to play forza at the Microsoft store yesterday. The controller was awesome I'm really excited about the game. I first played with the Audi with the default assists on and one the one lap race at laguna seca. Then I tried the mclaren p1 with manual trans, no abs, etc and it was a whole different beast. The game looked so incredible but felt even better. The feed back in the triggers was really cool. You could tell when you were loosing traction and going of the road. I was going to get the ps4 only till next spring but I really want to scratch that sim driving itch so ill pony up.

Didn't play it, but GT disappointments over the years, plus new system hype, plus Forza launch trailer have me intrigued. I've got a reserve on the game and system...launch, but still considering canceling it. That extra $100 dollars irks me, in spite of Kinect inclusion. Betweem PS3 backlog cleanup, PS4 release titles and PS4 free to play releases, I don't think finding something to play will be a problem. Having said that, similar to what you said, I'm not sure Need 4 Speed Rivals gets it done to satisfy the racing itch.
post #376 of 728
Anyone know if video of Test Track Airfield is available yet? I saw a shot with a airliner so I'm guessing it's an idiotic fantasy track like Pacific Shipyards in Forza 1 that had you racing amongst cranes, warehouses, and containers. Hard to think of something less suitable for a race track and hardly seems to go along with tracks like Road Atlanta and Le Mans.

If it's something along the lines of what they've done before in real life though, it might be a neat track. But if it's stuff like sending us through a hangar and under the wings of a jumbo jet, it's a waste of effort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_of_Cleveland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_City_Centre_(Blatchford_Field)_Airport#Racing
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/10/13 at 7:39pm
post #377 of 728
Didn't see the video that I posted below, so alas I am putting it here for your Forza fans. Here is direct feed of Yars Marina. Enjoy:

post #378 of 728
Oops....and here is Direct Footage of Le Mans:

post #379 of 728
old muscle! just for Leo!
post #380 of 728
So, ,

Reviews are finally out for Forza 5. At the time of writing this post it was "metacriticing" at 82, which is not bad at all, but given the history of Forza, the average is lower then I expected. Yes I know Metacritic has it's detractors and that it can be a flawed tool, but it's something out there that people do referencee. Anyhow, don't get me wrong, I love the series, and will pick up Forza 5 FOR SURE, but looking at some of the "summaries" of each review, it's an interesting read indeed. Most do complain about the number of tracks (we all know how many were axed) and the much smaller number of cars. Out of all the summaries I read (can't read full reviews as work 'filters' all the gaming sites for me) this one from Edge was quite blunt:

There’s no way to sell unused cars back to the AI or to other players, no bespoke onscreen speedometers, no test driving a car before purchase, no kid-friendly Kinect steering or Kinect support in Forzavista, no opportunity to load a circuit-specific tuning setup before a career race, no exiting from a race series without loading up the next track, no unicorn cars, no ‘reasonably priced car’, no auction house, no storefront, and no surprise, really.

It really does seem like there is a lot cut out of Forza 5 this time around. Sure, its the first Next-Gen 'sim-oriented' racing title out there, but it makes me wonder if indeed was a good idea to make it a launch title. You know that Sony was somewhat smart to release GT6 on the PS3, and then wait and release a bigger, more comprehensive sim-racer for the PS4 that it truly what people will be hoping for (large # or cars, tracks, features, etc). I wonder what would have happened if Forza 5 was released sometime in 2014. I know we can all "theorize" about it, but given the content that was cut this time around, it's something worth thinking.

It is truly my hope that Turn 10 rewards the Forza faithful with more then just car packs. Atlhough they don't owe me, as a Forza supporter anything per se, I do hope to see more tracks down the road to give this game longer life and more diversity in what we race on as the months go by. I want to see it's continued success after launch with DLC support, and I truly think this will require more then just car packs, as new racing locations will be not only needed, but greatly appreciated. I am not being selfish here, as I want success for Turn 10 and the continued success of a racing series that I have loved since the OG Xbox days.

On a side note, I do keep in contact with a staffer at Playground Games (Forza Horizon) and he hinted they are in the midst of doing something too. God I only hope it's Forza Horizon 2 as I LOVED the first game. Have to wait for awhile though for any announcement and he predicts E3 as the time to tell.

Anyhow, that is my 2 1/2 cents at this time.

Cheers,

Outtie
Edited by The Outcast - 11/20/13 at 8:10am
post #381 of 728
I'm not as excited about this title as I was before. I will still be getting the Digital Download of Forza 5 at launch, but I'm now more excited about getting the Need for Speed Rivals than about getting Forza 5.
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.....................On a side note, I do keep in contact with a staffer at Playground Games (Forza Horizon) and he hinted they are in the midst of doing something too. God I only hope it's Forza Horizon 2 as I LOVED that game. Have to wait for awhile though for any announcement and he predicts E3 as the time to tell.

Anyhow, that is my 2 1/2 cents at this time.

Cheers,

Outtie

eek.gif Now that would be sweet!! Forza Horizon 2 on the XBOne would be a title I would love to see.
post #382 of 728
Forza Horizon 2 next year makes a lot of sense. But I'd rather it be Project Gotham Racing 5 or RalliSport Challenge 3. smile.gif

Test Track Airfield is Forza 5's counterpart to Pacific Shipyards from the original like I feared earlier. You're racing through hangars and such nonsense. Hard to imagine an environment less suitable for staging an automobile race. I wish their fantasy tracks would stay halfway rooted in reality like Maple Valley and Sunset Peninsula. Heck, it doesn't even have any beautiful vistas like some of the less believable tracks have provided over the years for their justification of being there. And the Top Gear voice overs are going to be annoying I think. Hope there's a mute option for that overly dramatic rubbish.

IGN gave this a 8.8. The sounds of the V-8 Supercar going around Bathurst in their video review was great. But I hope going forward that they worry less about a manufacturer's sticker on an internal car component and provide a bit more meat on the bone instead since there's not anywhere near enough tracks here and several that are included are rather lackluster. And like IGN said and I've said in here numerous times, this series is long overdue for dynamic weather and time of day.

Seems like a good start. If they follow through with new DLC tracks and integrate them into career mode, it should be a fine game in time. But I better be able to get my Ferrari wet as I've driving in darkness with only my headlights lighting up the track ahead of me on the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans come Forza 6 in two years.
Edited by Leo_Ames - 11/21/13 at 3:57am
post #383 of 728
Sorry to be one of those guys too lazy to read back through the thread.

I was hoping target was doing 3 for 2 like ps4, but nope.

I dont see any deals for forza so is the digital download @ $59.99 the way to go? Am I missing a better deal?

Thanks!
post #384 of 728
People keep talking (on other websites) about a "Forza Downgrade" . What the heck are they talking about ?
post #385 of 728
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People keep talking (on other websites) about a "Forza Downgrade" . What the heck are they talking about ?

There are couple of threads at Neogif with comparisons of E3 versus now. I guess the crowds went from 3D to 2D and some other changes. Still looks good tome and if they had to change things like the crowds (that I don't care about) to keep 60fps fine by me.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=719517
post #386 of 728
3D crowd will be back.

as dlc

heh just kidding
post #387 of 728
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People keep talking (on other websites) about a "Forza Downgrade" . What the heck are they talking about ?

I could be wrong but I think they are also talking about Forza 5 being a "downgrade" from Forza 4 because of less cars and tracks. Some people are really ticked off because of these issues. I guess everyone is entitled to a opinion.
post #388 of 728
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I could be wrong but I think they are also talking about Forza 5 being a "downgrade" from Forza 4 because of less cars and tracks. Some people are really ticked off because of these issues. I guess everyone is entitled to a opinion.

But in reality, how can you say it isn't. They cut content and features from the game, it's simple as that. You can't specifically call it an upgrade just because it has some prettier graphics. That being said, looking at all the screens there arguments for and against some of the claims. It's pretty amazing indeed to see all the stuff that they are talking about.

Outtie
post #389 of 728
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Originally Posted by migraine24-7 View Post

I could be wrong but I think they are also talking about Forza 5 being a "downgrade" from Forza 4 because of less cars and tracks. Some people are really ticked off because of these issues. I guess everyone is entitled to a opinion.

But in reality, how can you say it isn't. They cut content and features from the game, it's simple as that. You can't specifically call it an upgrade just because it has some prettier graphics. That being said, looking at all the screens there arguments for and against some of the claims. It's pretty amazing indeed to see all the stuff that they are talking about.

Outtie

I agree. I didn't say it was or wasn't. Just elaborating on what others are saying. To me personally I view it as Forza 4.2. The graphics are better but less cars and tracks is a huge disappoint to me. And with my Fanatec wheel not working I'm not buying it. I'm waiting on Forza 6 which will be in a couple years. And hopefully a new Horizon game.
post #390 of 728
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

People keep talking (on other websites) about a "Forza Downgrade" . What the heck are they talking about ?

Not everyone interested in this is just grading it by graphics quality. In many ways like content it is a step backwards. And lots of smaller features like the auction house has also been stripped away.
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