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Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson for 5.1 fans

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
As a recent fan of all thing Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson I can also highly recommend the Porcupine Tree DVD concert Arriving Somewhere which has an incredible DTS 5.1 mix.

This was filmed during their 'Deadwing' tour and includes songs from that album plus 'In Absentia' album plus earlier work. Arriving Somewhere DVD has much more kick in the low end compared to the DVD-Audio releases of the aforementioned albums. A really nice 5.1 mix too with aggressive use of surrounds (thanks Steven!)

I hope the rumoured BD Audio releases of those two are remixed to catch the way the live concert sounds. Highly Recommend Arriving Somewhere for Porcupine Tree fans, and those wanting to find new and exciting progressive music. Best 'new' band for me in twenty years! (I also read this concert was filmed in HD, please let there be a future Blu release!)

Arriving Somewhere...
post #2 of 15
Ok, didn't post for awhile since we have another thread on this buried somewhere with various comments. So, being bored, I found my wife's stash of medicinal herb and spun this disk last night. I prefer the later Blu Ray concert, but hadn't listened to this one for a couple of years.

1. Bass was too hot...sounded like them in concert. Had to notch it back a bit.
2. Great concert, however the venue was way too small and didn't get you wrapped up in the crowd enthusiasm.
3. PT and especfially SW are timelessly good. His new stuff reminds me of when King Crimson went of the rails in the mid 70s, but this guy can write drama, harmony and hooks into very complex material that never bore you.
4. It's fun to revisit PTs classics from the early 2000s... "So Called Friend" never made it onto anything but a bonus disc, but it's a classic. Just it's inclusion is enough to buy this concert.

5. It's a must have for PT fans. 20 years from now you'll regret not having it.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Looks like last 6 Porcupine Tree DVD-Audio releases (5.1) to be reissued in Japan on 25 Sept 2013: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/s/list_from_code_banner.html?key=423122

Chance to buy at a reasonable price. I saw In Absentia sell for around $130 on eBay a couple weeks ago.

There's also a rumoured release of In Absentia coming from Kscope label around same time that will be available in the west, that may include a Blu-ray Disc...
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by HomerJau View Post

Looks like last 6 Porcupine Tree DVD-Audio releases (5.1) to be reissued in Japan on 25 Sept 2013: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/s/list_from_code_banner.html?key=423122

Chance to buy at a reasonable price. I saw In Absentia sell for around $130 on eBay a couple weeks ago.

There's also a rumoured release of In Absentia coming from Kscope label around same time that will be available in the west, that may include a Blu-ray Disc...

That is great news for those that do not have some of the OOP PT DVD-As. Although Lightbulb Sun is still available fairly cheap on Amazon.

Bill
post #5 of 15
Better get my Absentia up on eBay right away...
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by weekendtoy View Post

Better get my Absentia up on eBay right away...

I would wait till the Absentia DVD-A is actually available before selling your copy.

Bill
post #7 of 15
I was just being cheeky (sort of) but of course if they do re-issue or do a Blu-Ray it would kill the current outrageous re-sale market.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by weekendtoy View Post

I was just being cheeky (sort of) but of course if they do re-issue or do a Blu-Ray it would kill the current outrageous re-sale market.

It could but it also depends on what one has paid for In Absentia. If you paid big money for your copy then you might want to try to get all you can for it. I'm in good shape as I bought In Absentia for right around $40. I see quite a few high asking prices on Amazon and ebay but I wonder what the actual sale prices are. I'm not interested in cashing in as I tend to hold onto all my music.

Bill
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Steven Wilson just tweeted:

Also a SW video EP (CD/DVD & CD/BD) out for the European tour. Videos, live footage, another song from Raven sessions..etc. News soon.

Looks like another interesting release? I might be tempted if there is 5.1 Audio.
post #10 of 15
I bought my IA when it was released, I think I paid like $20 or so at BB.However I was never happy with it,mostly of it's anemic bass on both 5.1 ch. tracks (the stereo was fine), so I'm hoping this will be dealt with. That title was mixed by Elliot Scheiner,not SW.
post #11 of 15
There is a listing for the new combo releases on eBay that states these are region 2 locked on the DVD Audio disc. Anyone else confirm this? Sorry I can't post it, eBay links are verboten around here.


BTW what is a region locked DVD-A? The menu won't come up? Or the music won't play at all? I assume a region free player would have no problems as will most TV's in North America, since Region 2 is NTSC.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've never heard of a region locked DVD-A.
post #13 of 15
According to "DVD Frequently Asked Questions (and Answers)" for the rec.video.dvd Usenet newsgroups (last updated in June 2013, although most of the content appears to be much older), "Region codes do not apply to DVD-Audio".

http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html

However, many DVD-Audio disks are really "hybrid" disks with DVD-Audio and DVD-Video sections (for "backward compatibility" with the large number of DVD and Blu-Ray players that do not support DVD-Audio). Maybe such a hybrid can have a region-locked DVD-Video section.

Also, Region 2 is Europe, the Middle East, and Japan. Most countries in Region 2 have historically used the PAL television standard. Region 1 is the USA and Canada. Edit: Region 4 has an interesting geography, including Mexico, South America, Australia and New Zealand (I expect the thread-starter knows about Region 4).

So maybe, if you put this disk in a "standard" DVD or BluRay player, that does not support DVD-Audio, and is also DVD region locked, the disk won't play at all. I expect most people who read this forum have neither limitation - our players support DVD-Audio, and are DVD region free ("region 0").
Edited by Sonic icons - 8/26/13 at 5:05pm
post #14 of 15
I always thought Japan was NTSC. Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not sure if there is any video content on these, but they're probably a re-release of the stuff from 10 years ago. Maybe someone who owns these can comment.
post #15 of 15
I checked Wikipedia again ... Japan indeed adopted the NTSC television standard, or a local variation called NTSC-J, according to this article which also has a cool world map of "TV encoding systems by nation": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC-J. Most of Europe is PAL, and is also DVD region 2.

So back to Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree ... I have the Deadwing DVD-A but haven't listened to it in a long time (hope I don't get ejected from this thread). I recently listened to the sound samples (on Amazon) from his recent Blu-rays, and concluded that Grace for Drowning, Get All You Deserve, and Raven That Refused to Sing are must-haves. I like progressive rock that isn't too "metallic", but has strong influences from other genres like jazz and even classical. And I need to look into his recent remixes of other bands' albums. How does he manage to complete all these projects? He must be cloning himself!
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