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post #91 of 344
Hopefully CNET does a review of the 6900 and 7400.
post #92 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post




I knew if I kept reading I would get confused...

So the "the suggested modifications listed here about the whole 20 pt thing" is to use the calibration settings from lcdbuyingguide EXCEPT for the 20 PT settings (leave the 20 PT as-is or manually reset to 0?)? confused.gif

Thanks....

I will be so glad when my new toy gets here...

Its a starting point for sure. You can always set the 20pt grayscale settings back to 0. I'm going to apply those settings to ISF2 and see how they look for bluray only. Those setting caused a rainbow effect when watching netflix.
post #93 of 344
Has anyone looked at the Vizio M551D-A2R versus the LG 55LA6900 and chosen one over the other? The LG set is now priced about the same (on sale) as the Vizio. This thread is very sparse compared to the length of the Vizio M-series Owners discussion.Thx.
post #94 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

Has anyone looked at the Vizio M551D-A2R versus the LG 55LA6900 and chosen one over the other? The LG set is now priced about the same (on sale) as the Vizio. This thread is very sparse compared to the length of the Vizio M-series Owners discussion.Thx.

I did I chose the 55LA6900.

The two units are close competitors. I did a lot of web searching, The LA6900 seemed to garnish a bit more praise for PQ and took less of hit for side angle viewing. "Smart" functions seemed comparable but the Visio took a few hits on menu ease of use. I also like the idea of the Magic Remote but in truth it gets very mixed reviews. One thing I did notice was that there were many comments on LG firmware updates since ~12/12 that added features/functions (and fixes) to both the LM and LA models so I got the impression LG is pushing hard to keep improving the "Smart" features. I hope that continues.

It is a tough call but then the Amazon/BB and now Newegg sale kicked in an that sealed the deal.

Tough call I know. I can live with a few quirks but with TVs I hold my breath on getting one without defects. eek.gif

Good luck!

Edit: This site reviews both units HERE
post #95 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

I did I chose the 55LA6900.

The two units are close competitors. I did a lot of web searching, The LA6900 seemed to garnish a bit more praise for PQ and took less of hit for side angle viewing. "Smart" functions seemed comparable but the Visio took a few hits on menu ease of use. I also like the idea of the Magic Remote but in truth it gets very mixed reviews. One thing I did notice was that there were many comments on LG firmware updates since ~12/12 that added features/functions (and fixes) to both the LM and LA models so I got the impression LG is pushing hard to keep improving the "Smart" features. I hope that continues.

It is a tough call but then the Amazon/BB and now Newegg sale kicked in an that sealed the deal.

Tough call I know. I can live with a few quirks but with TVs I hold my breath on getting one without defects. eek.gif

Good luck!

Edit: This site reviews both units HERE

Thanks! I had already read the reviews at LCD Buying Guide and they did like the LG a bit more on PQ and the Vizio on value.

I like the look of the LG a bit more and the Vizio seems to throw more heat even though power consumption for the two sets is about the same. I don't really care that much about the app suite since I have apps via TiVo and my Panasonic Blu-ray player. Might even get a Roku one of these days.

BB, Amazon, and Newegg all have the set on sale for $1049 but Costco is at $1199 for the LG and $999 for the Vizio. I'd prefer to buy it @ Costco for their two-year warranty and 90-day return window.

My 5+ year old 46" Sharp is still perfectly fine but I keep drooling over a larger set with a disappearing bezel. smile.gif
post #96 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

BB, Amazon, and Newegg all have the set on sale for $1049 but Costco is at $1199 for the LG and $999 for the Vizio. I'd prefer to buy it @ Costco for their two-year warranty and 90-day return window.

My 5+ year old 46" Sharp is still perfectly fine but I keep drooling over a larger set with a disappearing bezel. smile.gif

The warranty is a plus. I picked up the Square Trade 5 year. It is just insurance, hope I never need it.

When it comes to TVs size DOES matter! biggrin.gif

FYI: The Amazon (Fulfilled by Amazon) price on the 55LA8900 dropped $10 to $1039.98- 62.40 (6% Amazon Rewards) = $977.58
post #97 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

The warranty is a plus. I picked up the Square Trade 5 year. It is just insurance, hope I never need it.

When it comes to TVs size DOES matter! biggrin.gif

FYI: The Amazon (Fulfilled by Amazon) price on the 55LA6900 dropped $10 to $1039.98- 62.40 (6% Amazon Rewards) = $977.58

That's really starting to look appealing though it appears that right now the 55" is sold by Paul's TV but fulfilled by Amazon. Their 6% policy states
"Add a qualifying television (shipped and sold by Amazon.com) to your Shopping Cart. "
But then they do show the 6% rewards a/ the 55" so I'd have to ask about that.

I'm still on the fence about buying a large HDTV and having it shipped.
post #98 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

That's really starting to look appealing though it appears that right now the 55" is sold by Paul's TV but fulfilled by Amazon. Their 6% policy states
"Add a qualifying television (shipped and sold by Amazon.com) to your Shopping Cart. "
But then they do show the 6% rewards a/ the 55" so I'd have to ask about that.

I'm still on the fence about buying a large HDTV and having it shipped.

I was mistaken. There are two 55A6900 sets on Amazon, one sold by Paul's and fulfilled by Amazon for $1039 and the other sold and fulfilled by Amazon for $1049. Both say they have the 6% in Rewards but I'm pretty sure that's not true on the one from Paul's. These sets also come w/ a free year of Netflix which is another bonus.
post #99 of 344
Does anyone know how this compares to the Samsung F6400 in PQ? I am torn between those 2 right now. Its kinda a bummer also that the LG doesn't have prime instant video.
post #100 of 344
About to bite on the tv, can anyone tell me the measurement of the stand itself? Trying to see how big an area I need for such an unusual stand. Thanks
post #101 of 344
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Originally Posted by benbryant View Post

About to bite on the tv, can anyone tell me the measurement of the stand itself? Trying to see how big an area I need for such an unusual stand. Thanks

What size?
post #102 of 344
Having difficulty deciding btn the LG 55LA6900, 60LA6200, Sony 60R550a and the Vizio 60 in M-series. Has anyone compared these sets? Will basically be using the tv for Movies (HD & 3D) and gaming.
post #103 of 344
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Originally Posted by calearne View Post

What size?

Sorry about that. Its the 55"
post #104 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

I'm still on the fence about buying a large HDTV and having it shipped.

I was too. Then I realized it was already shipped from Korea.
post #105 of 344
Still loving my set!!!

I'm watching LOST and REVOLUTION marathons on netflix.

I noticed that this TV has an anti glare film on the outside of the panel.

The manual advises you not to peel it off, but I'm thinking it would improve the PQ and clearness since it's basically just an oversized blurry matte phone screen protector.
post #106 of 344
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Originally Posted by calearne View Post

Still loving my set!!!

I'm watching LOST and REVOLUTION marathons on netflix.

I noticed that this TV has an anti glare film on the outside of the panel.

The manual advises you not to peel it off, but I'm thinking it would improve the PQ and clearness since it's basically just an oversized blurry matte phone screen protector.
Are you gonna take it off? I have the 7400.
post #107 of 344
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Originally Posted by calearne View Post

Still loving my set!!!

I'm watching LOST and REVOLUTION marathons on netflix.

I noticed that this TV has an anti glare film on the outside of the panel.

The manual advises you not to peel it off, but I'm thinking it would improve the PQ and clearness since it's basically just an oversized blurry matte phone screen protector.

Seriously?!? And if you don't like the result how will you put it back on? eek.gif I would like to her that warranty claim! biggrin.gif
post #108 of 344
Once it's off there's no going back, but before I do it on my own set I'm going to try just the corner of a store model, to see how sticky it is.

The only thing I'm worried about is the bottom lip might be the only thing clamping the the film down.

Once It's removed, fuzzy reflections will become crystal clear.

The bottom frame is the only thing holding me back from trying, and if the adhesive is strong then I'll forget the whole idea.
post #109 of 344
DO NOT REMOVE THE FILM!!!

I did some more research and found this.

FPR (Film-type Patterned Retarder) is a technology promoted by LG that is employed in its line of 3D televisions based on circular polarization, A FPR display sends left/right images at the same time, and then separates the left/right signals through a patterned retarder film that is attached to the panel.
post #110 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

I was too. Then I realized it was already shipped from Korea.

My reluctance is more about wanting to return the set if I'm dissatisfied. I contacted Amazon and was told that they charge a "minimum" of a 15% restocking fee plus $0.75/lb. return shipping for a TV. That comes to almost $200 to send a 50lb. $1000 TV back whereas BB, Costco, and others don't have restocking fees.
As far as damage from shipping, I'm not that worried unless the local delivery people don't have much experience w/ HDTVs. And any visible damage would be covered anyway.
post #111 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

My reluctance is more about wanting to return the set if I'm dissatisfied. I contacted Amazon and was told that they charge a "minimum" of a 15% restocking fee plus $0.75/lb. return shipping for a TV. That comes to almost $200 to send a 50lb. $1000 TV back whereas BB, Costco, and others don't have restocking fees.
As far as damage from shipping, I'm not that worried unless the local delivery people don't have much experience w/ HDTVs. And any visible damage would be covered anyway.

I believe you have 30 Days to determine if you are dissatisfied. Best to call Amazon and confirm rather than rely on web forums. This is similar to B&M 30 Day "No Questions Asked" policies. But, like I suggested, talk to Amazon directly about your concerns.
post #112 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

I believe you have 30 Days to determine if you are dissatisfied. Best to call Amazon and confirm rather than rely on web forums. This is similar to B&M 30 Day "No Questions Asked" policies. But, like I suggested, talk to Amazon directly about your concerns.

I did correspond w/ Amazon before posting and here is the response from them. If someone has had a different experience, I'd certainly like to hear about it as you often get different answers from different customer service reps. I have not been able to find this same info on the Amazon website. Here is all I could find, with no real details:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200504840

"Hello John,

You can return TVs purchased and fulfilled by Amazon for up to 30 days from the date you received the item. The TV must be in new condition, with the original packaging and accessories. The cost to return a television is $4.99 plus .75 cents x the weight of the television. We also will charge a restocking fee starting at 15% of the purchase price.

Our Online Returns Center guides you through the process and gives you a printable return mailing label:

http://www.amazon.com/returns

If you haven't opened the package you're returning, it's okay to tape the Return Merchandise Authorization to the outside.

More information about returning TVs can be found on our Help pages:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200504840

I hope this helps. We look forward to seeing you again soon."
post #113 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

I did correspond w/ Amazon before posting and here is the response from them. If someone has had a different experience, I'd certainly like to hear about it as you often get different answers from different customer service reps. I have not been able to find this same info on the Amazon website. Here is all I could find, with no real details:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200504840

"Hello John,

You can return TVs purchased and fulfilled by Amazon for up to 30 days from the date you received the item. The TV must be in new condition, with the original packaging and accessories. The cost to return a television is $4.99 plus .75 cents x the weight of the television. We also will charge a restocking fee starting at 15% of the purchase price.

Our Online Returns Center guides you through the process and gives you a printable return mailing label:

http://www.amazon.com/returns

If you haven't opened the package you're returning, it's okay to tape the Return Merchandise Authorization to the outside.

More information about returning TVs can be found on our Help pages:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200504840

I hope this helps. We look forward to seeing you again soon."

Hmm... well that sucks. I know I have seen people post of returning/exchanging TVs because they "did not like it". They never mention a re-stocking fee. Mine arrived today and I have it setup. Fortunately I think I am going to like it.
post #114 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

Hmm... well that sucks. I know I have seen people post of returning/exchanging TVs because they "did not like it". They never mention a re-stocking fee. Mine arrived today and I have it setup. Fortunately I think I am going to like it.

Did you buy your set from Amazon?
post #115 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

Did you buy your set from Amazon?

Yes. Quite happy with it so far so I am not too worried that I would want to return it because I just did not like it. Something is going to have to break and the I would want a repair/replacement ubder the warranty.
post #116 of 344
LA6900 Digital Output (TOSLINK) from external HDMI sources (BD Player, STB) are converted to to PCM 2 channel NOT passed as Digital 5.1.

I have read until I am blue in the face. Can't find it in LG Documentation. Much argument on the net. Some systems do some don't.... blah, blah, blah....

But the LG xxLA6900 will not pass Digital 5.1 from an external HDMI source through to its Optical Output, correct?
post #117 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

LA6900 Digital Output (TOSLINK) from external HDMI sources (BD Player, STB) are converted to to PCM 2 channel NOT passed as Digital 5.1.

I have read until I am blue in the face. Can't find it in LG Documentation. Much argument on the net. Some systems do some don't.... blah, blah, blah....

But the LG xxLA6900 will not pass Digital 5.1 from an external HDMI source through to its Optical Output, correct?

Have you tried contacting LG Tech Support? Might be a good opportunity to test them.
post #118 of 344
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

LA6900 Digital Output (TOSLINK) from external HDMI sources (BD Player, STB) are converted to to PCM 2 channel NOT passed as Digital 5.1.

I have read until I am blue in the face. Can't find it in LG Documentation. Much argument on the net. Some systems do some don't.... blah, blah, blah....

But the LG xxLA6900 will not pass Digital 5.1 from an external HDMI source through to its Optical Output, correct?

I would say that is correct. I'm no expert but I'd venture to guess the tv doesn't have a built in DAC.
post #119 of 344
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Originally Posted by jmbissell View Post

Have you tried contacting LG Tech Support? Might be a good opportunity to test them.

Subject: LG Electronics chat transcript for Muad Dib



Chat Transcript

Time of chat: 8/22/2013 12:06:34 PM

Length of chat: 01:32:07

Your name: Muad Dib

Chatted with: Louis




12:06 PM Louis: Hello Muad Dib. Welcome to LG Electronics U.S.A. Support only. How may I provide you with excellent service today?

12:06 PM Muad Dib: Hello. Tech question on the 55LA6900.

12:08 PM Muad Dib: Will it passthrough Digital 5.1 audio to it Digital Optical Output from an STB or DVD player that is connected using HDMI?

12:08 PM Louis: I would be happy to help you with that.

12:10 PM Louis: I'm checking one moment

12:15 PM Louis: An optical or HDMI cable is required in order to get Dolby Digital 5.1 channel audio. LG Televesions do not have a default dolby digital output setting. Most LG units output PCM, AC3 audio by default, meaning they do not support 5.1 channel pass thur. However, some LG models (SMART TV) have the option to change the digital audio output format.

12:15 PM Louis: go to your TV home or menu > set up > audio and check if you can change the audio output or what you can do is

12:16 PM Louis: You can connect the optical cable directly to the home theater system from the output device, by passing the tv all together.

12:16 PM Louis: change the audio setting from PCM to AC3

12:21 PM Muad Dib: I asked about the 55LA6900, which is a SMART TV so lets focus on the specs for that model. I can turn the optical output ON/OFF which disables the internal speakers. If I play anything HD from the internet (Netflix) I get Digital 5.1 audio. If I play anything HD from the STB or DVD player I get PCM. Is there another setting not listed/described for the 55LA6900 to get Digital 5.1 from HDMI connected devices?

12:26 PM Muad Dib: Anything?

12:26 PM Louis: thanks for holding, like explained before is up to the TV some comes with it and some doesn't.

12:26 PM Louis: go to your TV menu/home > sound > sound setting and check if you have the option that saids digital sound out

12:26 PM Louis: choose auto, PCM , etc. Try with all those setting.

12:27 PM Louis: if it doesn't have that option tell me so I can provide you what you can do.

12:27 PM Muad Dib: Hold Please.

12:29 PM Muad Dib: There is a DIGITAL SOUND OUT option with AUTO or PCM as the only options.

12:29 PM Louis: ok

12:29 PM Louis: choose auto .

12:29 PM Louis: and check if it works,

12:29 PM Muad Dib: I have it set to AUTO.

12:30 PM Louis: power reset the tv

12:30 PM Louis: Unplug the unit and when it is unplugged press and hold the start button for 30 seconds then plug back in and try again.

12:30 PM Muad Dib: Hold please

12:30 PM Louis: if problem persist reverse the HDMI cable the part that connects to the tv connect it to the other device also make sure that device is sending 5.1 signal to the tv so the tv can send 5.1 to the other unit

12:34 PM Muad Dib: Power Reset - no change.

12:36 PM Muad Dib: Both devices (STB and DVD Player are sending 5.1 when connected to the AVR using optical.


At that point the Chat Session was terminated by Louis.

This is such an obvious question that LG and its CSRs should have the answer plainly posted/available on their website if not included in the Owners manual. But all I got from the CSR was "Here try this..."

I honestly don't thinks it will output 5.1 from HDMI inputs due to copy protection laws but apparently some people think it will. BUT LG DOES NOT KNOW! biggrin.gif

That was what was irritating me. It is a simple and obvious question.
post #120 of 344
I agree, it shouldn't be that difficult. It should be as simple as, "The 55LA6900 doesn't do DD5.1 passthrough via HDMI to Optical because... " Since I'm old school I didn't think of hooking it up that way, so I thought I would give it a shot. Sure enough, it doesn't do DD pass through. Now my curiosity is piqued. smile.gif

Edit: This may, or may not apply to the LA6900 series but, here is the standard boiler plate response that I found regarding this issue as it relates to LG televisions. There is a feature (AC3) that has been deactivated from the HDMI ports, by the factory, due to lip synchronization issues caused by some peripheral device manufacturers. Supposedly you can re-enable this feature if you can access the service menu.
Edited by xoned - 8/22/13 at 5:46pm
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