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Dat Dere core i7 Multiplier smile.gif Raise it.
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Here is his highest CPU-Z validation
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2835665
According to his rig at OCN his daily driver is 5.3Ghz

So, running with 1600Mhz then with the HD4600. Have you had the time to run Heaven benchmark or SVPMark?

Could you kindly post the link to that post?
post #123 of 177
http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/2146963
Not gonna scour through that lengthy Haswell owners thread to find his posts there but that's his "rig"
post #124 of 177
6ghz+ is serious business on a Haswell. But it's not stable... Not with 2400mhz and 8GB installed. If you can't use it then it does not count.
post #125 of 177
With enough cooling thats not impossible. Going Sub-zero, this sounds like it can be real and stable.
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IVB suffers from a thermal interface material (TIM) problem (google it if you haven't heard of it). Run CPU and GPU intensive tasks simultaneously. "Core" temperature will rise quickly (don't trust so-called "case" temperature [nothing to do with PC case = chassis ] because of the TIM problem) and I often see throttle down (formally throttle down begins at TJMax = 105 Celsius degree, but actually throttle down may begin at a lower temperature). That's the reason for inadequacy.

AMD Trinity also suffers from exactly the same problem. I have to add a good cooler to avoid throttle down (that affects certain video playback tasks such as SVP).

I'll have to try that. Are you talking about the chips GPU (HDxxxx) or a separate discreet one? On my HTPC the most intense thing I have done is transcoding 3 seperate blu-ray movie rips (MKV's from MakeMKV) through plex to my iphone, android tablet and ipad while playing a 4th on the HTPC with no issues. i'll have to play with SVP to see what happens but I am not a huge fan of frame interpolation.

I mean stressing CPU and iGPU simultaneously (e.g. run both Prime95 and MSI Kombustor stress tests). This is somewhat artificial, but I usually do this to say a cooler (and the cooling system in general) is good.

I ran stress test (Prime95+MSI Kombustor burn-in) with Core i5-3570K with the stock cooler.

The stock cooler at 2500rpm. Pretty loud but it cools down the chip well with the core temperature ~75 Celsius degree.



The stock cooler at 1500rpm. Quiet, but the temperature rises quickly, it reaches ~100 Celsius degree and throttle down (both clock and voltage) begins automatically. Equilibrium is reached at 2.5 - 2.7GHz. (People often don't notice throttle down due to inadequate cooling [e.g. bad ventilation], that results in undesired performance degradation.)


Edited by renethx - 6/20/13 at 1:41pm
post #127 of 177
You want to see my 4770k thermal throttle at 100c and 4600mhz ??? eek.gif That's what happens on this chip at that speed with an air cooler. I would never want to run Prime95 overnight... lol This chip is faster than my 2600k but it's much hotter too.
post #128 of 177
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You want to see my 4770k thermal throttle at 100c and 4600mhz ??? eek.gif That's what happens on this chip at that speed with an air cooler. I would never want to run Prime95 overnight... lol This chip is faster than my 2600k but it's much hotter too.

RayStorm D5 RX240
post #129 of 177
I'm considering a cooler. I don't know much about water coolers. I'd need to learn some more and make sure I get a good fit for my cosmos 2 case.

It's either that or a new GPU. I'm not certain I need to go faster than 4200mhz for any specific reasons. Under 4.2 heat is not an issue.
post #130 of 177
You'd probably actually need the EX240 to fit in your case. It's a thinner rad. The setup is pretty easy. The manual that comes with it does a great job of explaining everything. The only difficult part is making sure you cut the tubing properly. Draw everything out first. I have the RX360 kit and it kept my 3770k under 70c even when running at 5GHz/1.575 vcore
post #131 of 177
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Anyone else having problems with their mobo/stock cooler constantly changing speeds, getting louder and then quiet, seemingly nonstop? I have to restart my computer in order to fix it. It's as if the cooler hits a certain speed and then wants to continuously go back to that higher speed.
post #132 of 177
Must be some sort of temperature hysteresis setting. Or the mobo fan control settings aren't properly set eg. temperature targets not set optimal.
post #133 of 177
This is normal when the cooling system is not good enough for the CPU load. If the core temperature reaches a certain value, then the fan kicks in. Then the temperature goes down below the value naturally, so the fan speed goes down too. As the cooling at the low fan speed is not sufficient, the core temperature rises again and the process is repeated. (Mathematically an "autonomous system".)

You can change the value(s) in UEFI BIOS setup > H/W Monitor > CPU Fan Setting. If you raise it high, then equilibrium may or may not be reached. You can also adjust it in "ASRock A-Tuning utility" in Windows.

This is one of the roles of the "super I/O" chip (Nuvoton NCT6776D in the cases of ASRock B85M-ITX).
Edited by renethx - 6/22/13 at 4:30am
post #134 of 177
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Here is some pics from my Haswell:

Stock Cooler:

Hi
can you tell me the total height (mounted) of Stock Cooler LGA 1150 (standard and T version)? thanks!
post #135 of 177
Standard: ~46mm
T: ~30mm
post #136 of 177
That's right.
For verification see here page 108, 109 for LGA1155
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/design-guides/3rd-gen-core-lga1155-socket-guide.pdf
There's the LGA 1150 TMSDG available at Intel site as well but it doesn't include the mechanical drawings section. The dimensions should'nt be any different though.

E: Oh and here's the resources page if you're wondering
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/CoreTechnicalResources.html
post #137 of 177
Question about this stock Haswell cooler.. What kind of behavior are you guys seeing with 3-pin vs 4-pin drive?

With 4-pin (PWM), the usable range is about 1000 to 2000rpm; this is fine for AV use but it will only support a very modest overclock.

With 3-pin, the usable range is about 1800 to 3000rpm; this allows for a moderate overclock but it's too noisy for day-to-day use. If I set the fan control under about 80%, the fan stops spinning altogether. It seems impossible to get a slow spin without PWM control.

Should I blame my board or would a different fan give more flexibility?

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edit: I just plugged-in my old OCZ LGA775 cooler fan. It can go from almost zero to about 2500rpm in 4-pin mode and up to 2100rpm in 3-pin mode. This is better, but I still think ASUS AI Suite is craptastic.

edit2: Just found this in the Intel thermal guide linked above:


This explains why the motherboard's 3-pin mode is acting funny... It's interfering with the fan's own temp control mechanism.
Edited by richard612 - 6/23/13 at 6:14am
post #138 of 177
I usually keep the stock cooler for stock clocks and it works well. I usually upgrade the cooler for builds I overclock on. That's really about at simple as you can make it with regards to cooler choices.
post #139 of 177
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I usually keep the stock cooler for stock clocks and it works well. I usually upgrade the cooler for builds I overclock on. That's really about at simple as you can make it with regards to cooler choices.
I just need to find one that can both run silent and run tornado... biggrin.gif
post #140 of 177
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I usually keep the stock cooler for stock clocks and it works well. I usually upgrade the cooler for builds I overclock on. That's really about at simple as you can make it with regards to cooler choices.
I just need to find one that can both run silent and run tornado... biggrin.gif

It all depends on clearance. most coolers are really quiet. My EVO212 is very quiet when I am not overclocked. It goes like 800rpm. If you have room it's a good choice.
post #141 of 177
A top flow version of Hyper 212 EVO is GeminII S524.
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A top flow version of Hyper 212 EVO is GeminII S524.

35-103-100-TS?$S300W$
post #143 of 177
Anyone have system power consumption numbers yet?
post #144 of 177
System power consumption depends on not only the chip, but mb, peripherals, PSU and AC voltage/frequency. In my case (i5-4670, 1 x SSD, 1 x HDD, 430W Bronze PSU)

Idle: 30-35W
BD playback: ~38W
CPU+GPU load: ~130W

System power consumption with a dGPU
Edited by renethx - 6/26/13 at 11:04am
post #145 of 177
That seems low. Yes ?
post #146 of 177
Its good but you can get those numbers with ivy bridge
post #147 of 177
True^

But Haswell does more at the same clock speed and energy.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

True^

But Haswell does more at the same clock speed and energy.

This, and somewhat less energy.
post #149 of 177
The biggest improvement with Haswell is not in energy or speed - but in the better video and frame rates for HTPC playback biggrin.gif
post #150 of 177
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

The biggest improvement with Haswell is not in energy or speed - but in the better video and frame rates for HTPC playback biggrin.gif

Definitely this, it is quite noticeable, even when watching shows and movies on Netflix. No more random skips, lags, or jumps every few minutes or so. biggrin.gif
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