Originally Posted by BllDo
That's a bummer, but five years isn't too bad. You'll still be finished sooner than Logan.
Haha. good point.
Since we are doing a full remodel (tearing off the roof, going up and putting it back on- extending the second floor 12 feet, plus adding a garage) much of that project is going to take away significant time and budget from my theater. I am entering into the theater project as a life life long hobby endeavor- And I don't actually expect to be "done" with it this decade. This is a hobby I have chosen for the long haul- so I will still be making changes, upgrades and updates 5+ years from now. My hope is that I can get a really awesome room built without much compromise- If I can get the shell before the budget or wife get in my way- I know my passion will see it through in the end.
I will like to do things myself one step at a time, for example the extra kids bathroom is going to be rough plumbed to code but I am not going to tile it, add vanity, toilet or shower due to cost. I'll have a bathroom that if you open the door it's a raw room. When the kids are old enough (we are trying for our first now) to need a bathroom I can easily put it in- but that saves me some good cash now I can use somewhere else. I don't mind using a tile saw, or doing tile work. It goes easy for me so the bathrooms I will do myself. Same things on the hard wood floor- it might go a little slower doing it myself- but I can put down hard wood floor a lot cheaper than paying someone. I am considering doing the interior framing myself actually and only having the contractor do the "shell" so if I want to move a wall 6" or a foot to change a dimension of a room or area when I am in the room and can see it then I can do that- sometimes it's hard to imagine such things in plans. I am a do-er and not a planner
The things I will pay for are clearly the concrete pour, the framing and build of the "shell", the roof, and the sheet rock. (I might do the theater only myself, or I might only do the room inside the room myself) The stuff I will clearly do myself is the trim, the flooring, the bathrooms, and closets. They are just areas where I don't trust anyone to get them right, and I certainly don't want to pay what it costs for that. Hoping to save a lot of cash by doing much things myself, but that just slows down the progess on the theater and competes for my time and attention. It's going to be a challenge especially with a baby, and perhaps even another before the project is complete. At the end of the day my dream is just to have an awesome space and room to chase my hobby for many years. If I can get 20 feet wide or more by 30 feet long or more- that's my goal. Right now I am speced at 22.5 feet x 34 but we will see what the town thinks of that. If I can't get 20 feet wide I am going to look for another home. I am not going to compromise, and finding a home in my area with room I want for a theater is unlikely if not impossible for my budget. I am likely going to have to go the DIYer route to get what I want. I want a $500k home theater for 1/10th of the price. I can do about $10k now for the "room", and probably a few thousand a year there after on this and that... as I keep making progress. I won't be spending any money on fancy gear until I have something to put it in. Probably a 11.2 SEOS build with 12" and the DNA360 tweets, I'd also like 4 DIY subs. Again going the DIY route on the speakers should yield me some serious value. If I want to take the time to build my own crossovers, boxes etc... I should get a speaker system for $2500 that can best a $25k retail option. On the subs $2000 in DIY subs will easily smoke a $10k retail sub. I'l build my own wet bar, do my own wiring. Build my own HTPC and server
Hopefully find a deal on the theater chairs. Where there is a will there is a way. I think I have done my homework at least enough to understand the construction techniques, materials, and methods. The rest I will learn as I go. I am not afraid to try something, or even fail and re-do it. That's why I always admired Sandman's thread- it seemed like he would do it then realize the smallest little thing just was not right- and he was not afraid to tear it all out and do it all again.
BTW- Thanks for the router advice
My router and table are going strong. Not "cowger" quality mind you- but not bad for $200. I ended up spraying my cabinet doors and realized I wanted to router the edges after I spend 4 coats painting them. Wife pleaded with me to just install them and they look fine. So- of coarse I said nope. Routered the paint off the edges and ended up another weekend spraying paint again.
Came out ok for a rookie and his first time considering I used cheap pine and MDF from home depot on a $99 Ryobi router table and $99 Hitachi router. Happy I learned a new skill- I will put the raised panel look and technique to work in my theater. I do like me some raise panels. It's way classier than solid trim or molding. I stopped posting in Cowgers thread because I felt bad taking over his thread and de-railing it. I ended up having to take apart my table saw, and all sorts of stuff. I did have a quick post about it in my server thread:
You can see in the below pic the edges are not routered :Edited by Mfusick - 10/4/13 at 7:16am