Originally Posted by SaviorMachine
Except that Hsu drivers and amps *are* both usually on the cheap to very cheap side, including all VTF models as well as the ULS. Don't gainsay it, we've already seen enough photos in other threads. The ULS driver is certainly their most fancy, but it's arguably inadequate to its task, given the number of complaints we see about driver distress and general quirkiness at 20Hz. I hope I don't have to provide links--I'm on my mobile and it's hard.
It's strange that after recommending them over all other brands
all these years, you've not yet noticed the cheapness of Hsu drivers, the weakness of Hsu amps and the stinginess of Hsu warranties, as well as the fact that shipping must be tacked on to all their prices, further lowering the value proposition. Owners like their sound, so that's certainly good. It's significant though that Josh repeatedly notes in the review that it's easy to push the VTF-15H into a place where it sounds like poo--not surprising, given a 350 watt amp. A 350 watt amp for their ported flagship!
Anyway none of Josh's excellent and thorough review comes as a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.
Josh stated that the VTF15h was easy to overdrive the sub in sealed mode, but who in their right mind would use it in sealed mode? Otherwise, it was overdriven in single port mode at a 115 dB sweep. That wouldn't happen very often, and anyway the user manual states that if you are going to push it to the limit, it should be in two port open mode. Used normally, it is not an easy sub to overdrive.
You call the ULS cheap due to a problem of being overdriven, but the problem with the ULS is a matter of equalization. This has nothing to do with the quality of the components, it is due to a design decision and not one I agree with, however I have never seen this problem with my ULSs, and I have thrown a lot at them.
You say Hsu's amps are cheap, but Hsu uses BASH amps, which are not at all regarded as bad. You go on to say that Hsu's flagship sub only uses a 350 watt amp as though that were an terrible. Is efficiency a bad thing now? There are a lot of subs that have multiple times that amplifier power which have nowhere near its performance. There is also no sub at or below its shipped price that I know of which have measurements that matches its overall performance.
As for the drivers, you can argue that the VTF15h driver is cheap, to which I would say it does not need to be expensive given that enclosure, but the other VTF and ULS drivers? I don't know their cost, but they don't look cheap to me. Their performance is excellent for the price, very few equally priced subs can match the same performance.
For the warranty, two years on electronics is pretty standard, and seven on the driver is above standard. Of course the electronics is more likely to fail, but you can get a warranty extension for an extra $80, however Hsu subs are known for their reliability, so that would be more for piece of mind than practicality.
Regarding shipping, yes, Hsu charges for shipping because they are evil greedy money grubbers as opposed to other subwoofer companies ship large and heavy products for free because they are benevolent, almost non-profit organizations which exist solely to bring subwoofers to the destitute for a modest fee. Or maybe other companies have their shipping charges built in the price, hmm, which is more likely....
And for your charge against me of only recommending Hsu over all other brands, I frequently recommend other subwoofer brands over or alongside them, Rythmik, Dayton, Klipsch, Premier Acoustics, Outlaw, and many others. Anyone who is at all familiar with my posting history knows that, and I believe that you do, so that is disingenuous. Anyway, I can't tell who was the primary target of your post was, me or Hsu, but either way your complaints are unfounded.