Good Evening Everyone
I would like to start by apologizing to diego for the unfortunate direction this thread has taken at my behest .I would like
to encourage your to post back and tell us what you decided to do and how it has worked out for you. I am sorry to hijack
this thread one more time but i truly feel it is important to clear the air and explain .
For whatever reason i have been singled out in this thread for eliciting misinformation. I feel compelled to
quantify and validate my position and explain how it came about.First i would like to say that i had no intention
of implying the OP had somehow bought the wrong speakers. In my haste I seem to have left the impression
My intent was to help him by suggesting he further educate himself before spending further money. I did not mean to imply he had the wrong speakers.
After thouroughly reading the initial post , it was clear that Diego was not happy with his current speakers and their soundstage.
Not every speaker works for every person or every room.
Its unfortunate that some people feel they need to attack other people and their choices to try and prove themselves
right. As can be seen below , the unprovoked attack on Axiom speakers, some of which neither i or Gt have heard . If
one was so inclined to review posts made by GT they would see that he regurgitates his dislike for axioms any time Axioms are mentioned.
I was merely sharing my personal experience with my speakers and for that i was verbally assaulted for no aparent reason.
Regretably i lost my temper and said some things that were unkind.
Originally Posted by Socketman View Post
Socketman ---It may be to your advantage to do some reading about dispersion and different types of tweeters. Aparrently with ribbons,
moving outside the sweet spot can cause a drop in output. I understand that ribbons are great sounding but do have
GtSuper ----Do you have any experience with ribbons, planars, AMTs? Or are you just regurditating a comment from a party?
You take one bad or negative comment that you read about ribbons and run with it, but ignore many negative comments
about Axiom as just trolling.
Originally Posted by Socketman View Post
. Now I am not suggesting axiom speakers, but that is the brand I have and I can lay down ,sit up lean back in my recliner and I do not detect in deterioration in the sound field. I can get restless watching a movie so I tend to reposition a lot so for me these work great. How large is your room.
I can do the same thing with my speakers that use a ribbon. I could never do that when I had the Axiom VP150 which i'm not suggesting is the absolute worst off axis speaker available wink.gif Oh and i'm also not suggesting that i've read comments about the VP180 center channel being a speaker that is just a "mess" of a sound that only just plays loud and nothing else.
I would also not suggest that Axiom has been described at shrill and fatiquing and extremely bright to listen too, from many people.
I do not post very often, i try to keep subjects i have experience with and i dont typically promote any one brand
of any product . I read alot of threads on many forum and try to extract and retain information which may be helpfull.
Ive also hear many different speakers in 50 yrs but i don't have golden ears, but i do know what i like and dont like.
I had an oportunity to listen to some tritons though my sonic memory like anyones is not great . I recall one thread
in particular where ribbon tweeters were auditioned . This thread was the NE Speaker ShootOut, and 2 of the speakers
of note with ribbons were the Legacy and ARX. Below are some excerpts from the NE Thread, there are others.
Legacy Focus SE
My favorite looking speaker of the day. Thanks to Mike for hauling these MASSIVE beasts over to share with us.
Being I've spent some time designing my own crossovers, I can appreciate the complexity of these beuties.
I spend about 4-5 minutes in the "hot seats" with these during the demo.
I concur with many of the other comments in that they are one of the most balanced setups,
but did have quite a narrow sweetspot for such a large speaker.
Rush 2049----Arx A5
-the highs on the Blake track were so so good, but it didn't have the problem of trying to reproduce the low note
at the same time.....
-this had a terribly small sweet spot vertically, about a foot high around the level of the ribbon tweeters,
outside of this it was disappointing how much worse it was.
GTSuper24 -- What do you meaning "standing over" and get under? Could it be you might have been too far off axis and
the tweeter was too high up from you LP? Ribbons/planars have a narrow vertical dispersion to reduce floor to ceiling
reflections, maybe you were just in a bad spot?
Details and airyness seem to be a common describtion of the Arx speakers, but going too far off axis would kill the treble
response (as with most speakers).
I think in a smaller room they would perform much better maybe? Did it seem like the room might have been too big
for certain speakers?
This was definitely an issue with more than one speaker. People were listening while sitting on the floor, couch,
bar stool and standing. I'll add more to this later, but I was sitting on a bar stool and noticed a distinct change
in sound at times moving my head down a foot or two.
ReefDiver----As I said I am new to reviewing speakers and I am trying to explain it the best I can and I thought
I did that in my review??. I called it how I heard it. When I say get under it, I meant you had to sit on the
ground to get to the sweet spot. It was really the only speaker that had the worst off axis LP. Just something
I am noting because it is obvious. Certainly you really can judge a speaker in a 23 minute sweep. Possible
these should have been put on stands since they were a little on the shorter side, but they were placed about a
foot off the floor anyway. . The room was a little on the larger side, but treated well. So yes a smaller room, b
etter sweet spot and maybe a different result. I had another member tell my my RX8 basically sucked, but another
guy said he loved them. Go figure. Pretty much why you have to hear speakers for your self.
These are but a few comments i read on that thread that clearly indicate a sweet spot and it being an issue. This thread has had in excess of 26,000 visits so hopefully the
above statements can be deemed as accurate. Furthermore I never set out to bash ribbons to begin with , to each their own. When someone is happy with what they
have be it speakers or whatever I am happy for them. If I offended in anyway I apologize as that was not my intent.