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post #121 of 242
Ahh ok cool. Thanks. Now...a couple more questions regarding sound. Did you change any settings in the sound menu? And going back to when you ferred me to an adapter for my headphoned. Can I change the settings in my ps3 so instead of it using hdmi for audio, I can use the headphones? Thanks.
post #122 of 242
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Originally Posted by Rawe View Post

Ahh ok cool. Thanks. Now...a couple more questions regarding sound. Did you change any settings in the sound menu?
The only thing I disabled was the automatic volume thing, I forget what it's called. (EDIT: "Stable Sound") Basically I'm too much of an audiophile to want it to touch my dynamic range, not to mention I've experienced Samsung's equivalent being quite annoying with video games.
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And going back to when you ferred me to an adapter for my headphones. Can I change the settings in my ps3 so instead of it using hdmi for audio, I can use the headphones? Thanks.
Uh, this TV doesn't need audio going over HDMI in order to display a picture...

Also, if you're going to use the headphone adapter directly with a PS3, wouldn't this adapter be better? It's $2.44 including shipping, and one of the reviewers even said he used it with his PS3:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?p_id=7190

Just note that the adapter doesn't label the right and left channels, so you may want to label them yourself in some way.
Edited by NintendoManiac64 - 1/18/14 at 1:30am
post #123 of 242
Do you mean the "Stable sound"?
post #124 of 242
Yes! That! "Stable Sound"

Now of course, the audio outputs on the TV are pre-amp, so no settings, such as "Stable Sound", will have any effect on the audio going through the audio outputs,

However, this also includes volume, so if you were to plug headphones directly into the TV you'd want to make sure that said headphones have their own volume control.
post #125 of 242
Yes. They do. Ive turned off stable sound. I don't have any extra speakers hooked up to the tv. Now, I was browsing posts and noticed in post 18 (by you) you state -10 sharpness is best, along ith different color changes that are different from your other post with the cnet settings. I will admit after trying the cnet settings again the colors are more vivid, and the contrast seems to have increased.
post #126 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

They're videos, but I personally do have a video of a game that runs at 60fps. Unfortunately my PC isn't fast enough to record it at 60fps, so for that I have to run the video at 2x the speed.

Here's the 30fps version if you care, note that the 720p version has the best video quality to resolution ratio:
https://www.mediafire.com/#ssmidj916dmw3

I can upload a 2x speed 60fps version if you want (I might do it for my own use anyway).

Hey all... just catching up on Rawe's new rig and reading thur NintendoManiac64's antics.. wow 174% DPI.. I'm blind too... LOL

Anywho.. Nintendo~ can you hotlink your mediafire content.. when I hit the link it takes me to a signup page.

Thanks even if you cant.
post #127 of 242
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Originally Posted by Woobieizer View Post

wow 174% DPI.. I'm blind too... LOL
I'm not blind, it's just that I sit anywhere from 2 to 3 meters away from the TV even when using it as a PC monitor. Not only that but the stupid Intel iGP doesn't support 4:4:4 chroma, so I can't get perfect per-pixel clarity anyway.
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can you hotlink your mediafire content.. when I hit the link it takes me to a signup page.

Huh, you're right - turns out I forgot the "folder/". Here's the correct link (I've also edited it into the post above):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ssmidj916dmw3
Edited by NintendoManiac64 - 2/12/14 at 8:10pm
post #128 of 242
Just curious: I am interested in the 58L1350U. I "thought" the 3.5mm FIXED AUDIO was an OUTPUT for Headphones(I have a pair of RocketFish 2.4Ghz wireless headphones. Love them), but people here are saying it is an FIXED AUDIO INPUT.

I noticed that the 58" has TWO 3.5mm inputs. Looks like one is attached to the VGA connection, which would make sense. If it has the OUTPUT on RCA FIXED AUDIO, I am probably sold. But if it doesn't, I will have to look at something else. That is a MUST HAVE for me.

This TV looks like a great deal. I will be connecting a PS3(HDMI), a ROKU 3(HDMI), and a CABLE STB(Component). This TV is a great size, and the price right now is cheap. I will take in the calibration settings others have posted here too see if this TV is worth it.

I was looking for a BIGGER SCREEN, without all the added on BS(plus At LEAST 3 HDMI inputs). BS meaning the "Smart TV" stuff you seem to need to have with the TV of this size if you want any quality whatsoever. Since I have a PS3, and ROKU 3 I am covered on all of my SMART TV stuff. Unnecessary.
post #129 of 242
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Originally Posted by STEELERSRULE View Post

Just curious: I am interested in the 58L1350U. I "thought" the 3.5mm FIXED AUDIO was an OUTPUT for Headphones(I have a pair of RocketFish 2.4Ghz wireless headphones. Love them), but people here are saying it is an FIXED AUDIO INPUT.

I noticed that the 58" has TWO 3.5mm inputs. Looks like one is attached to the VGA connection, which would make sense. If it has the OUTPUT on RCA FIXED AUDIO, I am probably sold. But if it doesn't, I will have to look at something else. That is a MUST HAVE for me.
Those headphones have their own volume control do they not? Then even if the TV does not have a 3.5mm audio output why can't you just use the following $4.23 (including shipping) adapter with the TV's RCA audio outputs:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5612

Considering that you probably live maybe only one or two hour's drive away from me I would imagine that the cost of shipping would be extremely similar for you.


EDIT: Not cheap enough? Then consider getting the following two items in a single order instead; the total comes out to $3.85 including shipping:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?p_id=7230
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=665
Edited by NintendoManiac64 - 1/29/14 at 12:28pm
post #130 of 242
I'm also thinking of getting the 58L1350u. at under $900 from amazon, seems like a steal.

The only thing i'm worried about is the color accuracy. the one review i saw said the colors were totally inaccurate. i have not seen the cnet review, so i'm going to try and check that out. i can do basic disc-based calibration so i can fix the innaccuracies myself, IF it's fixable.

Other than the color, everything else about the tv sounds fine. good black level and contrast and decent input lag. the price is perfect. i really want to pull the trigger but as a huge movie fan, the color has to be fairly close to accurate for me to go there.
post #131 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

Those headphones have their own volume control do they not? Then even if the TV does not have a 3.5mm audio output why can't you just use the following $4.23 (including shipping) adapter with the TV's RCA audio outputs:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5612

Considering that you probably live maybe only one or two hour's drive away from me I would imagine that the cost of shipping would be extremely similar for you.


EDIT: Not cheap enough? Then consider getting the following two items in a single order instead; the total comes out to $3.85 including shipping:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?p_id=7230
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=665

Actually those adapters mean nothing too me, but thanks. I already own some different types, including the ones you listed. All I need to know is does the 58L1350U have an ANALOG AUDIO OUTPUT(Fixed). 3.5mm, red and white rca outputs, whatever. I know looking at the back of the one listed at SEARS, it has: 3 HDMI inputs, 1 component input(shared with composite, I think), optical 5.1 DD out(side), USB input(side), VGA input, and TWO 3.5mm connections. One is right next to the VGA input, so I am guessing it is for sound for the VGA.

The other 3.5mm is just above that, listed as FIXED AUDIO. Now it does not say INPUT, or OUTPUT, just FIXED AUDIO. I would guess it is an FIXED AUDIO OUTPUT, but I just do not know.

Here is a link to the pictures provided by SEARS. theycan be blown up:

http://www.sears.com/toshiba-58inch-class-1080p-240hz-led-hdtv-58l1350u/p-05771141000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

And, yes, my Rocket Fish 2.4Ghz Wireless headphones have their own volume control, so that is why I am interested in the FIXED ANALOG AUDIO OUT only.
post #132 of 242
...have you not looked at the users manual? I've already linked to it multiple times in this thread, and it would have answered your question easily - the TV has stereo RCA (white & red) analog audio outputs.

Link to user's manual:
http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=3596913

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Originally Posted by NuSoardGraphite View Post

i have not seen the cnet review, so i'm going to try and check that out. i can do basic disc-based calibration so i can fix the innaccuracies myself, IF it's fixable.

Other than the color, everything else about the tv sounds fine. good black level and contrast and decent input lag. the price is perfect. i really want to pull the trigger but as a huge movie fan, the color has to be fairly close to accurate for me to go there.
The derpy Cnet review that I linked to earlier for the L2300U (which supposedly uses the same panel as the L1350U) actually praised the TV for its accurate colors. However Cnet were derps when it came to black levels and contrast since they used the "Movie" preset which I discovered reduces the contrast considerably; therefore it's no surprise that Cnet complained about poor contrast - they were doing it wrong!
Edited by NintendoManiac64 - 1/29/14 at 5:07pm
post #133 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

...have you not looked at the users manual? I've already linked to it multiple times in this thread, and it would have answered your question easily - the TV has stereo RCA (white & red) analog audio outputs.

Link to user's manual:
http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=3596913
The derpy Cnet review that I linked to earlier for the L2300U (which supposedly uses the same panel as the L1350U) actually praised the TV for its accurate colors. However Cnet were derps when it came to black levels and contrast since they used the "Movie" preset which I discovered reduces the contrast considerably; therefore it's no surprise that Cnet complained about poor contrast - they were doing it wrong!

Actually, it doesn't, but that link to the manual DOES answer my question. The 58 inch version(58L1350u) DOES NOT have the same back panel, as the smaller units. The 58" DOES HAVE the 3.5mm analog audio out which is great. BUT NO RCA ANALOG AUDIO OUT(Don't care). That is for the smaller versions. The 58" have a different back panel. I think this is where you and I were having a problem.
post #134 of 242
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Originally Posted by STEELERSRULE View Post

The 58" have a different back panel. I think this is where you and I were having a problem.
Well if you looked at the user's manual like the first sentence of my first post on the first page of this thread recommended then you wouldn't have had an issue in the first place. wink.gif
post #135 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

Well if you looked at the user's manual like the first sentence of my first post on the first page of this thread recommended then you wouldn't have had an issue in the first place. wink.gif

Thanks Jagoff for all of your "kind"(ahem), help.
post #136 of 242
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Originally Posted by STEELERSRULE View Post

Thanks Jagoff for all of your "kind"(ahem), help.
It's not like my avatar and custom user title were chosen arbitrarily. tongue.gif
post #137 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

It's not like my avatar and custom user title were chosen arbitrarily. tongue.gif

Your right, I take it back smile.gif
post #138 of 242
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Your right, I take it back smile.gif
Are you saying you actually understand what said avatar and custom title means regarding what I said and regarding the situation at hand without having to use a search engine?

....wow, I never actually expected that, particularly on AVS Forum.
post #139 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

...have you not looked at the users manual? I've already linked to it multiple times in this thread, and it would have answered your question easily - the TV has stereo RCA (white & red) analog audio outputs.

Link to user's manual:
http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=3596913
The derpy Cnet review that I linked to earlier for the L2300U (which supposedly uses the same panel as the L1350U) actually praised the TV for its accurate colors. However Cnet were derps when it came to black levels and contrast since they used the "Movie" preset which I discovered reduces the contrast considerably; therefore it's no surprise that Cnet complained about poor contrast - they were doing it wrong!

Yeah, conventional wisdom from hdtv enthusiasts is that you always use movie mode. i wonder why you cannot calibrate the black level to be decent in movie mode as opposed to the other modes. it may be the lack of dynamic contrast, which i assume cnet automatically turned off? that's another "automatic" thing hd enthusiasts do. i have no qualms using it if it makes a difference in the percieved contrast. (I have my samsung set to low dynamic contrast and it makes the picture appear more contrasty without distorting the colors which i have zero prblem with) so as long as the picture enhancements can be dialed in to make dark-ish blacks with decent shadow detail and fairly accurate colors so blu rays appear gorgeous, then i'll be satisfied with the tv.
post #140 of 242
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Originally Posted by NuSoardGraphite View Post

Yeah, conventional wisdom from hdtv enthusiasts is that you always use movie mode. i wonder why you cannot calibrate the black level to be decent in movie mode as opposed to the other modes. it may be the lack of dynamic contrast, which i assume cnet automatically turned off? that's another "automatic" thing hd enthusiasts do.
It's not dynamic contrast, I have that always turned off; it's full-on legit static contrast. Also of importance, I did my tests with DynaLight turned off since part of the testing involved a completely black image file viewed in fullscreen, and with DynaLight turned on the TV would darken the backlight considerably when viewing said black image.
post #141 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

It's not dynamic contrast, I have that always turned off; it's full-on legit static contrast. Also of importance, I did my tests with DynaLight turned off since part of the testing involved a completely black image file viewed in fullscreen, and with DynaLight turned on the TV would darken the backlight considerably when viewing said black image.

That's interesting, and very strange if the native contrast is lower in movie mode than in the other modes.

I am not decided yet. There are other TV's in this price range I'm researching. Currently also looking at Samsung F6300 (for $1100) and the Cnet review on that TV was pretty good. Even though they stated the black level was mediocre, its significantly darker than my current 2008 LCD. The good on the samsung is that is has near perfect color accuracy, which is one of the most important features I'm looking for. Unfortunately, input lag on the samsung is slower than the Toshiba, so that's going to be one of the features I'm going to have to mull over (however, I'm not much for FPS's and I play mostly RPG's, but I do like the occasional action game like Devil May Cry, so input lag is important in those games).

Next I plan to research the Sony TV's in that same price range. The TV I really want is a sony, but it costs $2k and that's more than I want to spend. Input lag on the higher priced model Sony's have been ridiculously good, so I'm hoping their mid-range models ranks as good.
post #142 of 242
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Originally Posted by NuSoardGraphite View Post

That's interesting, and very strange if the native contrast is lower in movie mode than in the other modes.
What seems to happen is that the TV creates it's "cinematic mood" by reducing the maximum brightness each pixel can hit. In Windows custom color-picker terms, it limits the "Lum" value to maybe something like 191 (max is 255).

Off-topic talk about games and visual novels (Click to show)
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however, I'm not much for FPS's and I play mostly RPG's, but I do like the occasional action game like Devil May Cry, so input lag is important in those games.
I'm into the more arcadey-style games regardless of genre; you know, the type of gameplay that has almost been completely MIA for the last 8 years or so (TimeSplitters, Unreal Tournament, Rush 2049, F-Zero GX, Excite Truck, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime Trilogy, etc etc).

Probably the only non-arcadey gameplay I enjoy are the immerse open-ended exploration-heavy games like MYST and most Metroid games where you're left to find your way and figure things out yourself (though I felt Prime 3 was too "cinema-wannabee" like many modern games, and I refuse to touch Other M at all).

I also have a bit of soft spot for sim racers.

On the flip side, I also greatly dislike having gameplay in my visual novels. I'm OK with plot branches and general story interaction, but reading fiction and playing a game are two completely different mindsets for me. Because of this I dislike it when people call visual novel "games" since I perceive them as media-rich ebooks with some interaction vs plot-heavy games with minimal gameplay (which makes for a poor game IMO).

Edited by NintendoManiac64 - 1/30/14 at 12:55pm
post #143 of 242
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Originally Posted by passer2005 View Post

Hi, I bought recently Toshiba 39L1350UC LED TV. For a week I was getting excellent picture. But today I noticed that the quality kind of dropped. I started to go through menu. All features were working (I mean I can see difference when I change settings), except "dynalight". I don't see any difference when I am switching from OFF to HIGH (I may be mistaken, but I remember I had seen that difference). Is it normal, or something happened to "dynalight" feature?

ME TOO!!! I thought i was going nuts or something?  

I bought a 50" a few days back and the picture does not look as clear as it did?  is this a burn in effect or something?

When i first got it home and and set it up i was so blown away by it and it still looks great but not as clear and focused, i have never heard of this happening before?

I love this TV for gaming, i play fast action war games FPS's and TPS's and it is amazing for these games with a EVGA GTX 780 super clock model GPU.

I use adaptive V sync on my GPU not in the game settings themselves and it works great.

post #144 of 242
Devil's advocate could say that it's the placebo effect of just becoming used to the image.

This could be tested by using a lower quality display for a while and then switching back.
post #145 of 242
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Originally Posted by NintendoManiac64 View Post

Devil's advocate could say that it's the placebo effect of just becoming used to the image.

This could be tested by using a lower quality display for a while and then switching back.

That makes the most sense.  I came from using a 720p 32" toshiba  HD tv that i used for 3 years.  funny how perception is. LOL

post #146 of 242
Hey guys, just got a 58l1350 after reading this thread. I can't manage to skip channels using the tuner and OTA. When I go to channel options, I don't have have the check marks like they show in the manual. Anyone manage to skip channels?
Thanks.

PS: I would personally rate the included tuner as "very slow" as opposed to the "a bit slow" in this thread. It's at least twice as slow as my older sharp tv.
Edited by fattony666 - 2/19/14 at 8:56am
post #147 of 242
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Originally Posted by fattony666 View Post

PS: I would personally rate the included tuner as "very slow" as opposed to the "a bit slow" in this thread. It's at least twice as slow as my older sharp tv.
Thanks, I'll edit in a note of that. The odd thing is that I've used analog OTA on a Trinitron CRT right up until 2008/2009, so I'm very familiar with fast switching tuners.

Perhaps in the future I'll time it for an absolute measurement.
post #148 of 242
Something that may help for other OTA users with these TV's. The tuner's sensitivity is much poorer than my sharp LCD and was missing 4 channels out of 13. I bought this pre-amp (right now it's just connected before the tv, not at the antenna) and now I get all the channels, all the time, even better reception than with my Sharp. Not bad for 22$

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-TVPRAMP1R-Audiovox-Antenna-PreAmp/dp/B003P92D9Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392840758&sr=8-1&keywords=rca+pre+amp

PS: A big thank you to you Nintendo Maniac for all the very useful info.
post #149 of 242
Ah, maybe that's why I didn't have so much of an issue - I already have a pre-amp plus quite a big antenna (something like a meter/yard in size).
post #150 of 242

Can someone post a review of the 58" TV? Sears has it for 799.99 and it looked nice in the store. Is that a good price?

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