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post #1 of 16
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hey guys i've been looking for some high performance (maybe even 'pro' outdoor speakers, but i'm having trouble finding it on the internet, i was wondering if some of you guys might know some websites, brands of possibly even have some hands on experience).

it is for my pool area/patio, wich is about 40 feet wide and about 200 feet deep..., the speakers will be placed along the 40 feet against a wall, (standing but preferably hanging), pointing in the 200 feet direction.

they need to be able to play LOUD for when i have a dj around for parties, preferably around the 130 db mark..

something like mackie 450 or jbl eons but then able to be outside all year round, i'm willing to put them inside for winters if need to)

any suggestions ? (as mentioned the may be pro speakers)
post #2 of 16
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little bump, anyone please, i'm totally stuck on this subject
post #3 of 16
Check out Definitive Technology AW6500's. I have had them for years and love them.
post #4 of 16
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yeah those would be nice on my porch, but i'm trying to pressurize 10 m bij 80 m garden / party area, (30 feet * 240 feet)

i wanna be able to achieve concertlevels in there (no neighbours for miles unless u count the occasional wildlife lol)

i'd be happy to be introduced to even a brand of speakers that does this, but i also think itt'll have to pro or pa speakers, givven that i would like to achieve round 115 db in the center of that area...

any ideas ?
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by denkiedenk View Post

yeah those would be nice on my porch, but i'm trying to pressurize 10 m bij 80 m garden / party area, (30 feet * 240 feet)

i wanna be able to achieve concertlevels in there (no neighbours for miles unless u count the occasional wildlife lol)

i'd be happy to be introduced to even a brand of speakers that does this, but i also think itt'll have to pro or pa speakers, givven that i would like to achieve round 115 db in the center of that area...

any ideas ?

http://www.zzounds.com/cat--PA-Speakers--2725

Take a look here...I've not used pro gear myself but the stuff in the link should be a good start...smile.gif
post #6 of 16

Seems to me your bass output might be your weakest link?

 

My understanding is, it takes a lot of horsepower to punch down low when playing outdoors.

 

Here's a picture of a movie I once did.  I bought the bottom two bass bins (in same picture, stacked) for $500 total and that included shipping them from Florida to Tennessee.

 

I pulled out my SPL meter and was hitting peaks of 114 db's at 52 feet (about 17m) away.

 

I am however, guessing that you're not in the states?

 

700

 

 

You wanna see nuts?

 

I have no idea what he's spent to collect these....I just know that I wish I had some of them.  I'd LOVE to do an outdoor 5 way HT setup!!

 

 

http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/174920.aspx

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post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Seems to me your bass output might be your weakest link?

My understanding is, it takes a lot of horsepower to punch down low when playing outdoors.

Here's a picture of a movie I once did.  I bought the bottom two bass bins (in same picture, stacked) for $500 total and that included shipping them from Florida to Tennessee.

I pulled out my SPL meter and was hitting peaks of 114 db's at 52 feet (about 17m) away.

I am however, guessing that you're not in the states?

700



You wanna see nuts?

I have no idea what he's spent to collect these....I just know that I wish I had some of them.  I'd LOVE to do an outdoor 5 way HT setup!!

edit: OMG that danley jericho is a beast !!! lmao ! now that just overkill for me lol.

i'm kinda leaning towards qsc atm but also considering macky. anyone has any experience with either of these ?


http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/174920.aspx


LOL now that's kewl !!!

thanks for the links and also for danley labs, i forgot about them and zzsounds i'd never heard about so now the search begins, thanks guys. i allways liked the klipsch sound but i didn't know they made all weather outdoor speakers so i'm definitely gonna hunt them down.

by the way coytee, what kind of speakers are u using in the outdoor cinema and where u happy with them, could leave them outside all year (like in rain or snow ?)
Edited by denkiedenk - 6/26/13 at 12:24pm
post #9 of 16
I really like the Yamaha MSR-400 PA speakers. They appeared to be the best bang for the buck when I got them, but these Eons look pretty nice too.

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-515XT-Lightweight-Powered-Speaker/dp/B004MEB4AK/ref=pd_cp_MI_0. It's easy to do an outdoor 5-channel setup. Just get a Blu-ray player with analog pre-outs. Or use an AVR with the pre-outs connected to your PA speakers. Be sure to get XLR-to-RCA adaptors. Or use a pre-amp with XLR outputs. PA speakers can daisy chain too, if you want to pile on as many speakers as you can on a particular channel.

A couple of these wouldn't hurt either http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Portable-500-Watt-Self-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B001HKSWK2/ref=pd_sim_MI_3
post #10 of 16
Here is a fun link to check out...smile.gif


http://www.backyardtheater.com/
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by denkiedenk View Post


LOL now that's kewl !!!

thanks for the links and also for danley labs, i forgot about them and zzsounds i'd never heard about so now the search begins, thanks guys. i allways liked the klipsch sound but i didn't know they made all weather outdoor speakers so i'm definitely gonna hunt them down.

by the way coytee, what kind of speakers are u using in the outdoor cinema and where u happy with them, could leave them outside all year (like in rain or snow ?)

Those are Klipsch MWMs (s for single height cabinets, or something like that)

 

They are the same thing in the picture in the link I posted....except he's got tons of them verses my pounds of them.

 

I do not think they are for permanant outdoor installations unless you can perhaps cover them.  The units I have are trimmed with aluminum as you can see and they are also covered with fiberglass which helps weatherize the but...  I would never willingly leave them outdoors.  I always pulled them into the garage using the front loader of my backhoe.  They're very cumbersome to move unless you "roll" them end over end or "walk" them from corner to corner. 

 

The double bins weigh something like 300 pounds or more (?) and the singles are about half.  You can find them with handles or without.  Handles come in VERY handy if you value your fingertips!!

 

Was I happy with them?

 

HA!

 

My house is on a lake.  I live on the poor side.  Across the lake is a retirement community, many of them are from "up north" (as I am).  Many of them are from Michigan, I'm from Ohio.  Although I never got into the Ohio State/Michigan squabbles (I went to a different Ohio college), I do have some Ohio State marching band music.

 

I put the CD on, turned it to 11 and let it rip.  I wanted anyone on the other side to think I had the Ohio State marching band practicing in my field.

 

They are quite formidible and in my opinon, the foundation of an excellent system however, they are only bass bins.  Getting the rest of the parts can be difficult and/or expensive.  They are however, made to boogie outdoors.  Since they're horn loaded, they can play quite loud and sound good doing it.

post #12 of 16

Here's a closer picture of the bottom and top with a LaScala sandwiched between them.

 

I was able to select between various drivers and they all sounded excellent. 

700

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Here's a closer picture of the bottom and top with a LaScala sandwiched between them.

I was able to select between various drivers and they all sounded excellent. 
700

what model is that upperhorn ?

i see my last edit got a little mixed up, at the moment i'm doubting between macky and qsc, does anyone have any experience with any of these and or recommendations about these brands ?

grtz
post #14 of 16
For the size of the porch you are mentioning, I would go with Klipsch AW650.
post #15 of 16
You might want to look at JBL Pro Control 28/29/30 speakers.
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/general/ProductFamily.aspx?FId=23&MID=2
post #16 of 16
I would certainly consider speakers from JBL's Control line. I have some Control 28's and they sound fantastic and it doesn't take a lot of power to drive them. However the 28's are a little bass lacking so if you want more pounding bass without a sub, I'd look into the Control 29's or 30's. Some of them require a 70v tap but they can be powered with a regular receiver as long as you don't drive them hard enough to clip.
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