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post #61 of 91
As you point out, you won't be able to hear every speaker you like on paper...best case scenario, you buy two sets, audition them side by side, and return the loser in your audition (make sure are aware of the vendors return policy).
post #62 of 91
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Originally Posted by jewbacca1 View Post

If ya'll have any idea on subs though that would be greatly appreciated. I'm interest in the Rythmik lv12r but I know there are great subs out there for the same price.

Rythmik subs are hard to beat. I have their monster FV15HP for my theater and love it. I also have the smallest sub SVS makes for my office, another great choice. There are other very good budget subs though (without sacrificing quality), no reason to rush to the top, and as cel mentions no matter what you buy today you will want another soon smile.gif Subwoofer choice needs to be made with the size of your room as a consideration - can you share length, width and ceiling height?
post #63 of 91
Thread Starter 


Here is my room. Hah I literally just started making this about five minutes before you asked.

That was done on paint btw...

The window sits 2' off the floor and is 4' - 9" tall.
Edited by jewbacca1 - 6/26/13 at 4:32pm
post #64 of 91
Dude an lv12r will easily fill that room! I'd highly recomed one as I love mine in much larger
post #65 of 91
Thread Starter 
Any ideas as to speaker placement. I wouldnt imagine its too hard for 2.1. Would the speakers be too close together if on either side of my desk?
post #66 of 91
Depends on how wide your desk is. I have mine on both ends of a dual LCD monitor setup, with each speaker raised up so that the tweeter is near ear height. Then each is toed in a little toward the listening position.
post #67 of 91
My nearfield setup is very similar, only I use Auralex Mopads to angle them upwards. The pads decouple the speakers from the desk,the angle helps with desktop reflections and points drivers to my ears - but I digress. I believe the best practice for placement is to form an equilateral triangle between you and the speakers. Not always easy to do. Second best practice is to futz with them until they sound good wink.gif

Cel, any concerns with placement close to wall? I'm on my tablet and too lazy to check specs for speaker port.

Edit: I should have mentioned, my desktop speakers are not Ascends. Not that it matters or would change my answer.
post #68 of 91
Thread Starter 
My intention is to get a vibration dampener as well. I'm not sure if I'll angle them or raise them yet though. The speaker port is on the back but I've heard from many reviewers and on the AA website that 3" is all that's necessary. Seems like another plus to me! smile.gif
post #69 of 91
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Nethawk, that's a pretty incredible setup you've got there. cool.gif
post #70 of 91
speakers on rubber feet on the desk either side of screen will sound good when setting at the desk, and will work OK when on the bed, but will probably loose soundstage at that point.
post #71 of 91
For my near field PC setup, I moved from Auralex MoPads on my desk to studio stands on either side of my desk ( http://www.guitarcenter.com/DR-Pro-DRPRO-SMS1BK-Wood-Studio-Monitor-Stand--Pair--105794002-i1535185.gc ). The improvement is considerable as the sound stage is wider, the imaging is better, and the bass is more pronounced and less boomy. If you have this option I would consider it to give you a more optimal placement.
post #72 of 91
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Originally Posted by Transmaniacon View Post

For my near field PC setup, I moved from Auralex MoPads on my desk to studio stands on either side of my desk ( http://www.guitarcenter.com/DR-Pro-DRPRO-SMS1BK-Wood-Studio-Monitor-Stand--Pair--105794002-i1535185.gc ). The improvement is considerable as the sound stage is wider, the imaging is better, and the bass is more pronounced and less boomy. If you have this option I would consider it to give you a more optimal placement.

How is it that speaker stands do all that?
post #73 of 91
On my desk the speakers were likely a little too close, and placement has a huge affect on speaker performance. Even adjusting the angle or placement by a couple inches can make a big difference. Furthermore, the speaker stands do a better job of de-coupling the speakers from the floor than the pads did from my desk. Those stands can also be filled with sand to make them very dense, further enhancing the effect.
post #74 of 91
Thread Starter 
Hey. What do you guys know about the MartinLogan Motion 12? They're priced on sale from 600 each to 250.
post #75 of 91
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Hey guys. I'm expecting the Ascend CBM-170's to get here today. I'm about to buy the Denon AVR 1712 but am debating whether to save 100 bucks and buy from accessories4less.com or go to an authorized retailer for piece of mind. In the mean time, I thought maybe I'll hook these up as surround right and left in my dads system. He has two bipole/dipole speakers in the surround backs, two klipsch towers in front, a center and a sub. I'm not sure they'll mix very well though, being all klipsch with those horn tweeters.
post #76 of 91
Accessories4less is an authorized retailer for Denon products. They sell factory refurbished units with manufacturer warranties. You can get the 1713 new for ~$300 right now, I would jump on that as you get a longer warranty and some helpful networking features, bear in mind you are limited to 5.1 though.

If you want to try them out, hook them up in place of the front speakers. They aren't going to do a whole lot being used as surrounds, and with such a different sound than Klipsch won't do them any justice. You can go to Best Buy and grab the receiver, call and make sure they have them as they are getting cleared out for the new Denon X series.
post #77 of 91
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Best buy is sold of the 1713 and they are still priced at $500.. But the 1712 is more suitable for my needs anyway. I don't need any frills. Plus, the 1712 has 6 HDMI inputs and 90 watts/channel. compared to 5 and 80. Would it help to buy through the Denon seller on Amazon? I'd be protected by amazon and they'd likely pay for any return shipping if it were to happen that way.
post #78 of 91
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1712/DENON-AVR-1712-7.1-A/V-Surround-Receiver/1.html

I would go through them, use PayPal if you have any hesitations but there are many satisfied customers of A4L on here.
post #79 of 91
Thread Starter 
I'm mostly worried that I'll get a faulty or even DOA receiver and end up having to pay return shipping, possibly more than once and/or have to send it to denon.
post #80 of 91
They are factory refurbished meaning they are tested to be in 100% working order before they are sold. If it arrives DOA then something happened during shipping, but that risk is there with any online transaction. Check their return policy, a lot of times they will email a pre-paid shipping label and you just mail it back after you receive a new one.
post #81 of 91
Accessories4less will not pay return shipping. Further, if the refurbished is defective it must go directly to Denon. Buying from them is definitely a risk, but one I took to save a good bit of money.
post #82 of 91
You can buy refurbished units directly from Denon as well, might be worthwhile to check and see what their return shipping policy is.
post #83 of 91
B&H Photo had the 1713 for $314.
post #84 of 91
Thread Starter 
the only refurb 1712 from denon i could find is 350 on amazon
post #85 of 91
Unless you need 7.1, the 1713 would be a great option, the slight power difference is not something to be concerned about.
post #86 of 91
Thread Starter 
In that case, I might as well just get the 1913.. its 264 at PCM.com right now, while the 1713 is 289.. sound like a plan?
post #87 of 91
Go for it, the 1713 has a better version of Audyssey, but the 1913 will still work well.
post #88 of 91
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I've read through quite a few forums now. I think it'll be a good idea to relinquish the XT for the 1913's additional features.
post #89 of 91
Thread Starter 
I'm using them with my dads Yamaha htr-5990 and his Klipsch sub-10 in my room right now... They sound so freaking incredible!!! biggrin.gif I'm blown away. And I haven't even used the calibration mic or anything! Even without the sub, they still sound amazing. Playing Black Ops 2 on the ps3 is chest pounding, without the sub as well. I can't wait to get the Denon in.
I'm having an issue with the Yammy though. I hooked it up all via HDMI but the picture was wavy and, idk... just crappy? then it started blinking... then faster, then faster more, then it was just ridiculous. So I hooked it up directly to the tv with optical audio going to the receiver and it works. What's strange though is that I used to use a PS3 with this same receiver but a different tv. anyone know what that's about?
post #90 of 91
That's great that you are loving the 170s. I thought mine opened up just a little more with better clarity with a little usage. Definitely have to let us know how it all sounds with the Denon smile.gif

As far as the receiver, I don't have the answer to your question. But there are threads for particular receiver models in the Receivers, Amps, and Processors forum.
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