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post #31 of 203
Hi showroomcali,

Thanks for the calibrations. I know you got standard mode for the 60ES7500 but if you ever come across it again can you do one for movie mode?

Again thanks for all your hard work.
post #32 of 203
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Originally Posted by jayy11284 View Post

Hi showroomcali,

Thanks for the calibrations. I know you got standard mode for the 60ES7500 but if you ever come across it again can you do one for movie mode?

Again thanks for all your hard work.

So I went to a local BBY to calibrate the 65ES7500, and they only had one left, which they displayed roughly a week ago (I verified the hours of run time, which was roughly 200.) That being said, that is the last they have, and the last I could find locally. I have two FPs I'll be working on tomorrow per previous requests, so I won't have any time tomorrow, however if they still have the ES7500 on Wednesday, I'd be more than happy to do a 'Movie' mode calibration then. I'll let you know Wednesday morning if they still have it, and if they do, then I'll post results Wednesday evening smile.gif

EDIT: Had something unexpected come up and was not able to do the ES7500 in 'Movie' mode. I'll be able to do it tomorrow afternoon though. Stay tuned.
Edited by showroomcali - 7/2/13 at 6:20pm
post #33 of 203
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Below are the settings for the UN60ES6500. The calibration was done in 'Standard' mode, per the request of eric3316, due to a clouding issue that can be prevalent while in 'Movie' mode due to the 'Micro Dimming' feature being automatically disabled while in that given mode. That being said, 'Standard' is limited to a 2 point grayscale adjust. There's also full CMS settings. I did forget (my apologies) to post the mLL(minimum luminance level), ftL(footlamberts), ANSI contrast ratio and ON/OFF Contrast ratio numbers. However I'll be back at it tomorrow per some other requests and I'll get readings for the above specs. and post back with those as well! First are the screen shots for the results, and second will be the settings.










Document 1.pdf 48k .pdf file

Cheers! biggrin.gif
Thanks! Some interesting numbers in there. Will probably lower the sharpness somewhere between 0 and 10 as 50 seems way to high? A contrast level of 60 and brightness of 51 is another one that I would not expect. I am very interested in how this will look and is so different then what I have been running.

You wrote es6500 above but the report says es7500 so I assume the report is correct with the es7500. Also, what was the setting for Gamma, it seems to be missing from the report. That is found in advance settings. Going to assume this was done with color temperature set to Warm 2?

Won't be able to plug these in till I get home from work later......

Thanks again for your contribution to the community! I believe this is the first es7500 calibration done with equipment and proves to be very different then the calibrations that we have been using from the es8000.
Edited by eric3316 - 7/2/13 at 6:01am
post #34 of 203
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Thanks! Some interesting numbers in there. Will probably lower the sharpness somewhere between 0 and 10 as 50 seems way to high? A contrast level of 60 and brightness of 51 is another one that I would not expect. I am very interested in how this will look and is so different then what I have been running.

You wrote es6500 above but the report says es7500 so I assume the report is correct with the es7500. Also, what was the setting for Gamma, it seems to be missing from the report. That is found in advance settings. Going to assume this was done with color temperature set to Warm 2?

Won't be able to plug these in till I get home from work later......

Thanks again for your contribution to the community! I believe this is the first es7500 calibration done with equipment and proves to be very different then the calibrations that we have been using from the es8000.

It was indeed the ES7500, not the ES6500, my apologies. The "gamma" setting was -2, and yes the color temperature was "Warm 2." As for the "Sharpness" setting, I believe I mixed that number up with the "Tint" in my report. "Tint" should've been 50, or neutral depending on how you look at it, and 'Sharpness was actually a 10.
post #35 of 203
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Hi showroomcali,

This is very nice of you to offer this service to the forum. Cheers for coming up with a great idea to share your knowledge/time with the forum members biggrin.gif

Can you calibrate a Vizio m701d-A3?

This is the new 70" set from their new Razor line.

EDIT: All I can find locally is the M651d-A2R, I'll keep an eye out and see if the M701D-A3 pops and let you know.
post #36 of 203
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EDIT: All I can find locally is the M651d-A2R, I'll keep an eye out and see if the M701D-A3 pops and let you know.

The only place I could locate the M701D-A3 locally was at Costco. If you have one nearby they may have one on display.

Thanks for all of your hard work!
post #37 of 203
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It was indeed the ES7500, not the ES6500, my apologies. The "gamma" setting was -2, and yes the color temperature was "Warm 2." As for the "Sharpness" setting, I believe I mixed that number up with the "Tint" in my report. "Tint" should've been 50, or neutral depending on how you look at it, and 'Sharpness was actually a 10.
So I punched in the settings and going to see how it looks. One thing I had to immediately change was the brightness level. At 51 the blacks were horrible. I lowered it to 45. Would that have an effect on any of the other settings?

Also, what did you think of the contrast level calibrating at 60? Did that seem low? How do you think the TV looked after you calibrated it?
post #38 of 203
Thanks a lot for taking time out and doing this calibrations. And if you could calibrate on a ES 6400 , it would be great but if there is only F series a could also try them out. Thanks again...
post #39 of 203
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So I punched in the settings and going to see how it looks. One thing I had to immediately change was the brightness level. At 51 the blacks were horrible. I lowered it to 45. Would that have an effect on any of the other settings?

Also, what did you think of the contrast level calibrating at 60? Did that seem low? How do you think the TV looked after you calibrated it?

Lowering the brightness can absolutely affect other settings, and keep in mind, I calibrated to a brightness of 51 on a showroom floor, and the ES7500 was front and center in the Home Theater department in BBY. I thought the image had plenty of punch with the contrast setting at 60, any higher gave it too much of a washed out appearance to me. Overall the ES7500 looked very good to me, a little light in the black levels department, and the reflection was very pertinent in that given environment. If you can give me an idea of what your environment is like, I can do another calibration in standard, and set a higher or lower gamma depending on how much, or little ambient light you have and can up or lower the brightness levels accordingly as well.
post #40 of 203
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The only place I could locate the M701D-A3 locally was at Costco. If you have one nearby they may have one on display.

Thanks for all of your hard work!

I'll take a look at my local Costco, only tried BBY, WalMart, and Target. Costco didn't even cross my mind smile.gif
post #41 of 203
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Lowering the brightness can absolutely affect other settings, and keep in mind, I calibrated to a brightness of 51 on a showroom floor, and the ES7500 was front and center in the Home Theater department in BBY. I thought the image had plenty of punch with the contrast setting at 60, any higher gave it too much of a washed out appearance to me. Overall the ES7500 looked very good to me, a little light in the black levels department, and the reflection was very pertinent in that given environment. If you can give me an idea of what your environment is like, I can do another calibration in standard, and set a higher or lower gamma depending on how much, or little ambient light you have and can up or lower the brightness levels accordingly as well.
During the day I have windows opposite the TV but have blinds over them so I get light in the room but not direct sunlight on the TV. At night I have lights that I either dim or shut off. The problem with the brightness at 51 is the blacks look really light like you said. If you drop the brightness down to 45 the blacks look really, really good especially if there is any light in the room, they will look inky black. Much different then what you are seeing at 51.

I am fine with a calibration in a light or dark environment as I can raise the back light up or down to compensate for it but I need my blacks to be black if you know what I mean. lol
post #42 of 203
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During the day I have windows opposite the TV but have blinds over them so I get light in the room but not direct sunlight on the TV. At night I have lights that I either dim or shut off. The problem with the brightness at 51 is the blacks look really light like you said. If you drop the brightness down to 45 the blacks look really, really good especially if there is any light in the room, they will look inky black. Much different then what you are seeing at 51.

I am fine with a calibration in a light or dark environment as I can raise the back light up or down to compensate for it but I need my blacks to be black if you know what I mean. lol

Absolutely, that's the point wink.gif and in the extremely bright showroom environment, with the brightness set to 51, the blacks looked very black smile.gif
My target gamma and settings were formulated around the given environment.
post #43 of 203
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Absolutely, that's the point wink.gif and in the extremely bright showroom environment, with the brightness set to 51, the blacks looked very black smile.gif
My target gamma and settings were formulated around the given environment.
Can you calibrated at a brightness level of 45? Even in the daytime hours a brightness of 51, blacks will look way to light in my room, can't imagine how it would look at night.
post #44 of 203
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Can you calibrated at a brightness level of 45? Even in the daytime hours a brightness of 51, blacks will look way to light in my room, can't imagine how it would look at night.

Yeah another member has requested a full 10 point in 'Movie' for the same model. So when I'm doing that, I'll go back through the 2 point in 'Standard' and use a brightness measurement of 45. Any preference on contrast?
post #45 of 203
Could you do a LM6200 or LM6700? thanks..smile.gif
post #46 of 203
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Could you do a LM6200 or LM6700? thanks..smile.gif

Being that both of those are 2012 models, it'll be difficult to try and get my hands on those, but I'll see what I can do. I'm doing the LA6200 from LG in the very near future, which of course is the 2013 model for the LM6200.
post #47 of 203
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Being that both of those are 2012 models, it'll be difficult to try and get my hands on those, but I'll see what I can do. I'm doing the LA6200 from LG in the very near future, which of course is the 2013 model for the LM6200.

I was the one that asked about the LG 47LA6200. Can you please calibrate it in one of the ISF Expert modes? That should give you the most flexibility. Thank you.
Edited by GatorJZ - 7/3/13 at 7:53am
post #48 of 203
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Yeah another member has requested a full 10 point in 'Movie' for the same model. So when I'm doing that, I'll go back through the 2 point in 'Standard' and use a brightness measurement of 45. Any preference on contrast?
Thanks....For contrast, whatever you think looks good. I know for the es8000 in standard mode the guys there have been running it between 70-80 saying anything higher would cause color clipping. I know the es7500 probably acts differently so you are the expert more then I am since I do not know the first thing about actually doing a calibration.
post #49 of 203
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I was the one that asked about the 47LA6200. Can you please calibrate it in one of the ISF Expert modes? That should give you the most flexibility. Thank you.

+1
post #50 of 203
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I was the one that asked about the LG 47LA6200. Can you please calibrate it in one of the ISF Expert modes? That should give you the most flexibility. Thank you.

I responed to your post, but it was a bit back in the thread so my apologies smile.gif

I've got plans for the 4th, however I should back at it on the 6th and your LA6200 is one of two displays on my list for that date. Stay tuned! smile.gif
post #51 of 203
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Thanks....For contrast, whatever you think looks good. I know for the es8000 in standard mode the guys there have been running it between 70-80 saying anything higher would cause color clipping. I know the es7500 probably acts differently so you are the expert more then I am since I do not know the first thing about actually doing a calibration.

Sounds good! I assume you'd like this to be done in 'Standard' again, correct?
post #52 of 203
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Sounds good! I assume you'd like this to be done in 'Standard' again, correct?
Yes please...Enjoy your 4th and thanks!
post #53 of 203
Hi showroomcali,
Thanks you for the calibrations. Do you have the ES6900 model ?
Really interested on it.

Thanks..smile.gif
post #54 of 203
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Originally Posted by showroomcali View Post

I responed to your post, but it was a bit back in the thread so my apologies smile.gif

I've got plans for the 4th, however I should back at it on the 6th and your LA6200 is one of two displays on my list for that date. Stay tuned! smile.gif

Nothing to apologize for...this is a nice thing you are doing. I only made that second post because I saw some were specifying what mode they wanted you to calibrate the TV in.
post #55 of 203
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Originally Posted by migdlp View Post

Hi showroomcali,
Thanks you for the calibrations. Do you have the ES6900 model ?
Really interested on it.

Thanks..smile.gif

Getting ahold of any ES series displays is very difficult right now. I can look at the F6900 however.
post #56 of 203
Hi Showroomcali,

A calibration of the current 2013 Samsung UNxxF7500 (or F7450 at Costco) would be most appreciated. I just purchased the UN60F7500 over the F7100 or F8000 (stand!) and would greatly appreciate callibration guidance.

I did find one set of calibration settings at the below link, but am not completely happy with the results. It could be useful to compare your calibration findings with these other settings.
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-f7500-picture-settings.html

Also, I wonder if the panel itself could also be significant. My panel is a TH01 (Samsung S-PVA panel).

Thanks for your helpful and most generous offer!
Doug
post #57 of 203
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Hi Showroomcali,

A calibration of the current 2013 Samsung UNxxF7500 (or F7450 at Costco) would be most appreciated. I just purchased the UN60F7500 over the F7100 or F8000 (stand!) and would greatly appreciate callibration guidance.

I did find one set of calibration settings at the below link, but am not completely happy with the results. It could be useful to compare your calibration findings with these other settings.
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/samsung-lcd-tv/samsung-f7500-picture-settings.html

Also, I wonder if the panel itself could also be significant. My panel is a TH01 (Samsung S-PVA panel).

Thanks for your helpful and most generous offer!
Doug

Absolutely, I've got 2 other displays on the docket for Sunday afternoon, but I'll throw the F7100 in the mix for probably Tuesday!
post #58 of 203
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Absolutely, I've got 2 other displays on the docket for Sunday afternoon, but I'll throw the F7100 in the mix for probably Tuesday!

Thanks... That would be wonderful (just picked up a F7100 myself). Thanks for all your that you do for us!!!
post #59 of 203
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Absolutely, I've got 2 other displays on the docket for Sunday afternoon, but I'll throw the F7100 in the mix for probably Tuesday!

7100, 7500...whatever it takes smile.gif

I was actually requesting the F7500 (or F7450 at Costco), but recognize they're not generally on display at BB (only F7100 or F8000). Any chance you can find the F7500 for calibration?

Thanks again!
Doug
post #60 of 203
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Originally Posted by djmaltby View Post

7100, 7500...whatever it takes smile.gif

I was actually requesting the F7500 (or F7450 at Costco), but recognize they're not generally on display at BB (only F7100 or F8000). Any chance you can find the F7500 for calibration?

Thanks again!
Doug

My apologies I was so excited to see another request I was seeing red wink.gif I'll do everything I can to find an F7500 and work on it. BBY is my best avenue for these evaluations at the moment because of the relationship I maintain with a higher up at my local store, but I'll look around and see what I find! Cheers!
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