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post #391 of 482
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At the beginning of the series Marco was the nice, good guy. Now he is the guy that, because he can't control his libido, caused everything to happen, including the murder of his own son. He went from being the most likable character to being the most flawed. An interesting twist that I think they did very well.

Interesting resolution.
In the original : Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The original series had the same resolution. The way that they handled Martin/Marco's son's death - where you saw him being found after seeing him trapped alive (walled in behind a partition behind a freezer in a garage ISTR) but didn't know whether he was alive or dead - was one of the truly shocking moments of the series. Very pleased the US version didn't "Hollywood-ise" the story and allow the son to survive

It's kind of ironic to compliment the series for not going "Hollywood" when the main villain in both versions is straight out of the Big Book of Movie Cliches. Not forgetting of course Hollywood already filmed the final chapter to the story with Brad Pitt and Kevin Spacey a long, long time ago.

FX don't do happy endings regardless of the source material.
post #392 of 482
So the show alternately infuriates me and keeps my interest. Marco doesn't want to shoot Frye so he throws his gun at Tate's feet? Really? I would have thought he would have chucked it off the bridge. Tate gets shot and falls off a bridge and is still alive? Sonya slowly finds Gus (although too late) and doesn't call her boss on the radio. Marco doesn't just cuff Tate when he peels off his "bomb vest". I completely agree with the Seven comparison. I was yelling at the TV Set that very thing but the TV Set never listens to me. Tate is a completely uninteresting character. I'm not sure the tunnel subplot is interesting. For such a nice set up, this show has really screwed the pooch.
post #393 of 482
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Tate gets shot and falls off a bridge and is still alive? Sonya slowly finds Gus (although too late) and doesn't call her boss on the radio.

You mean Frye right? wink.gif

That was a big stretch but I'm glad he isn't dead, however I fully expect him to be in a wheelchair now and I don't think the character needs another level of angst.

And yes, not calling it in as soon as Gus was found I thought was a lame way to amp up the dramatics. As was Sonya waiting until the very last second to say "We found Gus" when she could have shouted that initially.
post #394 of 482
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You mean Frye right? wink.gif

My head thought "Frye" and my fingers typed "Tate." Stupid fingers!!
post #395 of 482
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It's kind of ironic to compliment the series for not going "Hollywood" when the main villain in both versions is straight out of the Big Book of Movie Cliches. Not forgetting of course Hollywood already filmed the final chapter to the story with Brad Pitt and Kevin Spacey a long, long time ago.FX don't do happy endings regardless of the source material.

They didn't "go Hollywood" as far as rescuing Gus. As for the killer, Hollywood all the way.

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post #396 of 482
I understand that for the sake of the "show" Gus had to die. The problem I have is he was prime candidate for resuscitation. He was a near drowning victim, in these cases the PD does not control the scene. I hate @#!% Hollywood when they do this crap for "drama". The Fire department Paramedics would have been right behind them pulling Gus out and starting procedures. The training these days is that some are attached to the tactical units wearing armor and vests and follow in for support to victims. The same with Tate's son in the accident that resulted in two fatalities. They would never just leave him in the car with his arm hanging out and prancing around like actors in their scene acting as though he didn't exist. Thank you rant over! rolleyes.gif
post #397 of 482
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They didn't "go Hollywood" as far as rescuing Gus. As for the killer, Hollywood all the way.

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In a way they did go "Hollywood" for the sake of drama. I guess their department doesn't have the money for dogs and handheld thermal imagers? They did not do a complete search of that house. I won't even go into "sounding" the walls to determine if they are solid or hollow.
post #398 of 482
I was talking about how they did not rescue Gus at the last minute, as they usually do in classic Hollywood movies. I was not talking about the attempt to create a thrilling rescue scene.

And I wasn't expecting any EMT's at the house. Sonya decided on her own, in the heat of the moment, to check out a hunch. She did not request any help. the chief ordered what's his name to go with her. I was surprised to see the other two cops at the house, much less any medical personnel.

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post #399 of 482
I don't have the problem with Gus not making it or the procedures of the people on the scene. My problem with it is Tate running hundreds of feet of piping into a tank hidden behind a wall in the garage. I mean, come on. And no one could hear water running. If you've ever been in an empty house and someone is running water on the other end of the house or an outside spigot, you're going to hear it and question why water is running in an empty house.
post #400 of 482
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Originally Posted by tomhunter8 View Post

At the beginning of the series Marco was the nice, good guy. Now he is the guy that, because he can't control his libido, caused everything to happen, including the murder of his own son. He went from being the most likable character to being the most flawed. An interesting twist that I think they did very well.

Couldn't agree more. Although some of Hastings/Tate's motivations don't bear careful scrutiny, the pivotal factor that drove him over the edge into a murderous rage was Marco's dalliance with his wife. We have seen that Marco is a serial philanderer to whom marriage vows mean little or nothing. I too thought that was handled very well as was Gus's gritty death. The Bridge isn't perfect by a long shot but I think it has been pretty damned good.
post #401 of 482
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I don't have the problem with Gus not making it or the procedures of the people on the scene. My problem with it is Tate running hundreds of feet of piping into a tank hidden behind a wall in the garage. I mean, come on. And no one could hear water running. If you've ever been in an empty house and someone is running water on the other end of the house or an outside spigot, you're going to hear it and question why water is running in an empty house.

Ah - so did Gus (aka August in the original ISTR) drown? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
In Bron/Broen he was walled up behind a sealed plasterboard (aka drywall in the US?) wall in a garage, which had a chest freezer in front of it, and suffocated. They spotted the wall was new and broke through to find him - and left it ambiguous when he was discovered as to whether he was alive or dead, which then was pivotal in the Saga/Martin scene at the end where Martin/Marco has a gun on the killer.

Anyway - Series 2 of Bron/Broen starts on Sunday night! Can't wait!

http://www.svt.se/bron/ or http://www.dr.dk/dr1/broen
Edited by sneals2000 - 9/20/13 at 4:33pm
post #402 of 482
I guess it was suppose to be kind of a breakthrough for Sonya, that she was able to lie repeatedly to Marco, to try to prevent him from shooting Tate.
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I guess it was suppose to be kind of a breakthrough for Sonya, that she was able to lie repeatedly to Marco, to try to prevent him from shooting Tate.
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Ah - Saga/Sonya tried to lie to Martin in the original, but he realised instantly.[/quote]
post #404 of 482
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I guess it was suppose to be kind of a breakthrough for Sonya, that she was able to lie repeatedly to Marco, to try to prevent him from shooting Tate.
Yes, she was telling him "what he wanted to hear" and not the truth, something that he'd a discussion with her about earlier in the season.
post #405 of 482
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Ah - so did Gus (aka August in the original ISTR) drown?

Trapped in a tank slowly filling with water, behind the freshly constructed wall behind the freezer, in the garage owned by Professor Plum.

Tate managed to cross off two tropes this episode as part of the serial killer checklist. That of a cop being alone with the killer and saved just in time and that of a poetic death because Tate's son drowned in his own blood during the accident.
post #406 of 482
wow! My mom just told me "I may not watch The Bridge anymore after this weeks episode."
I personally haven't watched it, but I guess something horrible happened eek.gif
post #407 of 482
First of all, has FX confirmed a second season?

Secondly, have the producers indicated whether they're going to follow the second season of the Swedish series for the second season of their series?
post #408 of 482
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Second season is in the works (according to the show runners) and as reported earlier is going to be about the pink crosses. If the show runners live up to their word the original story was just a means to an end. That end being to get to some stories about the regions the bridge connects. We will probably see how that works in the last two episodes.
Edited by VisionOn - 9/20/13 at 6:26pm
post #409 of 482
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

Ah - so did Gus (aka August in the original ISTR) drown? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
In Bron/Broen he was walled up behind a sealed plasterboard (aka drywall in the US?) wall in a garage, which had a chest freezer in front of it, and suffocated. They spotted the wall was new and broke through to find him - and left it ambiguous when he was discovered as to whether he was alive or dead, which then was pivotal in the Saga/Martin scene at the end where Martin/Marco has a gun on the killer.

Anyway - Series 2 of Bron/Broen starts on Sunday night! Can't wait!

http://www.svt.se/bron/ or http://www.dr.dk/dr1/broen
Curious that the Swedish site blocks video playback to US IP addys while the Danish site does not.

Thanks for the update!
post #410 of 482
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Second season is in the works (according to the show runners) and as reported earlier is going to be about the pink crosses. If the show runners live up to their word the original story was just a means to an end. That end being to get to some stories about the regions the bridge connects. We will probably see how that works in the last two episodes.
Thanks for that news, I wasn't aware that a second season had actually been commissioned yet, and hopefully that is the direction they go with these last two episodes.
post #411 of 482
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I had to check what I've seen. FX haven't made a statement but the creative team are acting as if it will be back.
post #412 of 482
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I don't have the problem with Gus not making it or the procedures of the people on the scene. My problem with it is Tate running hundreds of feet of piping into a tank hidden behind a wall in the garage. I mean, come on. And no one could hear water running. If you've ever been in an empty house and someone is running water on the other end of the house or an outside spigot, you're going to hear it and question why water is running in an empty house.

You could hear the water running last in week's episode. Re-watch it if you still have it. Sonya heard it, she just didn't realize it because she got hit with a headache. I remember thinking, "listen to the running water".

Then this week, back at the station, she was at a faucet and the same sound triggered a memory which is what led her to go back to the house.

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post #413 of 482
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Curious that the Swedish site blocks video playback to US IP addys while the Danish site does not.

Thanks for the update!

SVT (Swedish Public Service Broadcaster) are very good at selectively geo-blocking based on their rights. Because so many Swedes go abroad for long periods during the winter, unlike the BBC and some others, they don't block everything, but instead only block content they don't have international streaming rights for. (So watching a lot of their non-co-produced stuff is easy). On SVT Play they even have a clear symbol (a globe with a line through it) for content you can't stream outside Sweden. Not all of the video on the Bron page was geo-blocked. The interview from Go'morgon Sverige was fine in the UK. (And appearing to be in Sweden isn't much of a challenge)

I suspect the shows themselves will be geo-blocked on both the SVT Play and DR's TV Nu catch up services. (In fact I think both SVT and DR offer live streaming of their main networks online - again geo blocked - as well as catch-up - which is great for watching on your phone, tablet, laptop etc.)
post #414 of 482
oh my, emotional roller coaster frown.gif

Good episode but sad.
post #415 of 482
Although we knew Gus' circumstance the Cops didn't. Once Sonya realized there was running water traveling up or down makeshift arrangement a light bulb should have gone off and three possible solutions occurred to me. Open up the doors beneath the sink to see if there is a shut of valve. If not send a few cops outside, or into the garage area to locate the main water shutoff valve. Even faster, from a safe position fire 2, 3 or more rounds into the pipe in order to divert the water flow. A little flood in a serial killers home is of no great concern.
post #416 of 482
Disappointing. This show started off with great promise - great writing and acting, fascinating characters, a wonderful setup, the contrast between two worlds. This and Ray Donovan looked like long term additions to a growing list of remarkable television series. But the last few episodes have let us down. The almost unforgivable sin of a drama is to slip into unbelievability, and that's what happened on The Bridge. The premise of someone going on a murder rampage against people even peripherally connected to the accidental death of his wife and son was ridiculous. The scene where Marco considers shooting Daniel Fry in exchange for information about his son was also pretty stupid, and badly acted.

But nobody's perfect. Still a fascinating show. The tunnel situation still looks intriguing, as does the Steven Linder character. Overall the writing is still very good. Lots of interesting characters. I suspect they'll get back on track and look forward to watching it for years to come.
post #417 of 482
Started fast out of the blocks but has dropped off considerably. After the fiasco of "The Following" the theme of omnipotent, smarter that everyone, infinitely resourceful serial killer is anathema to me. What has kept me with this show has been the protagonists. Didn't see the widow going all stone killer coming until the setup of the moronic boy toy wimping out; then it was obvious. Daughter had better watch her back, pissing off the widow with the repeated whore comments.
post #418 of 482
I don't think I agree with the "fell off" part. Seems like a lot of people are mad about the last two (dramatic) episodes. Drama happens when you're dealing with Mexican drug cartels and psychopath murders. The way of the game. I thought the sad, dramatic scenes were very well done. I admit, I had a tear! tongue.gif
post #419 of 482
I don't think the "drama" is the problem...
post #420 of 482
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I don't think the "drama" is the problem...

I admit, I haven't read all the postings as I caught the episode late. What's the issue then? Surely not the acting and such.

People going outside of their boundaries? How Charlotte shot and killed Tim and Tim's good friend dealt with it? In the start, Charlotte did not have the killer instinct, now she's being a ruthless "drug lord."
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