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post #391 of 772
I am sure you can break in the sets like plasmas and bring the risk way down but we wont know until OLED becomes more widely used. I personally would rather have a 4k set than a OLED at the moment. But once OLED comes with 4k then the game may change for me,,,,but that wont be for a couple years I would think.
post #392 of 772
Actually Lg is thinking next year sometime

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123483-lg-77-inch-4k-ultra-hd-oled-tv-pictures-and-eyes-on-stunning
post #393 of 772
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Originally Posted by whasaaaab View Post

Actually Lg is thinking next year sometime

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123483-lg-77-inch-4k-ultra-hd-oled-tv-pictures-and-eyes-on-stunning

That will be very nice if that actually happens so fast.biggrin.gif
post #394 of 772
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

anthonymoody I suggest you read more carefully before replying to posts. You're shooting yourself in the foot again. You make stuff up as you go along.

"he has the 75" in another room, and the 4K Sony in his self described man cave so you'll find that my reading comprehension is pretty solid"

Not so. Show us here where he said he has the 4K Sony in his self described man cave. Again, here I am correcting what nonsense you put out.

Anyway, this is getting old. You keep posting nonsense, and pitching...buy the same tv I have on every thread on this AVSforum.

Unlike you apparently I read multiple threads and am able to assimilate information from multiple places into a single cohesive whole. Look at other threads for additional information if you like. It is not my job to keep you informed and up to speed. But you'll be embarrassed if you take the time to do so. Nonsense indeed.

As it stands, my suggestion is valid and sensible. You and anyone else, Merkey included, are free to disagree. And you are also free to use the ignore button.

Moreover, I have every right to post what I like, where I like, when I like (so long as I obey the forum T&C which, as a paying and extremely longstanding member here, I assure you I am quite familiar with) and you have zero right to counsel or direct otherwise.

That's a nice way of saying shut the **** up.
post #395 of 772
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Originally Posted by MERKEY99 View Post

I own both the 75"f8000 and the 65"f9000. At first I was not overly impressed with the upconversion. But the more I watch both sets the more I am seeing the differences. I really thought the 75" immersed me more but when I go from tv to tv I am now happier with the f9000.

I thought id be spending most of my time in the living room with the 75"f8000 but find myself in my man cave with the f9000 more frequently. smile.gif

I see a noticable difference now after having the sets for almost 1 month and am glad I did splurge and get the f9000!

I also dont notice any difference with lag on the f9000 compared to the f8000.

Here, for the record, is the post wherein Merkey describes the 75" in the living room and the 4K in the man cave. I wrote Sony in the prior post accidentally and so my mistake in that regard, though it doesn't seem like that was the nit you were picking in this case.

And obviously in the interim Merkey has experienced all sorts of issues with replacements, back ordered panels, new choices of sets, etc. But the general set up and arrangement of his sets has clearly been stated, and that was what I was commenting on.
post #396 of 772
Bekind: the one spouting nonsense and obfuscating is you, not me. The issue of whether his man cave 4K set is a Sony or Samsung was never, ever the point. Not once. Ever. At all. If you think otherwise then your reading comprehension and logic fails have reached epic proportions. The brand of said set had no bearing on the specific matter at hand.

The points were:
-what size and resolution set(s) he currently has
-what location(s) they are in
-the urgency, or lack thereof, to replace either set given the answers to the questions above and his goals long term

You fail to see the obvious, but then again reading your posts it's easy to see that you're incapable of logical leaps.

I will happily bow out from here and let you have the final word since I'm positive that in your petulance you will insist on doing so regardless and I choose not to waste my time with your nonsense any further. I would simply remind you that the Ignore button exists for a reason, that I am as entitled as anyone here to post what I like, where I like, when I like (probably moreso as a paying member) and that you can take a flying leap. Welcome to my ignore list. In 12 years of posting here at AVS the number of people sinking to that level is extremely small so in that regard you've achieved some exclusivity. Congratulations.

Best of luck to you Merkey in your quest! And thanks to you and others for buying on the leading edge as an early adopter. You are obviously helping everyone long term in so doing!
post #397 of 772
Are you guys still at it?
post #398 of 772
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Are you guys still at it?
Since I started working in retail part time,I learn not to trip off material things,just because something new comes out,i don't got to have it,living in peace with is more important,then material things.
post #399 of 772
Hey Guys,

Just noticed on the BB website that in due to the Sony XBR-65X850A coming out at 4999.98, BB dropped the price of the 65F9000 to 4999.99! Just checked Samsung website and they did the same as well with no end date in site so this reduction is permanent! Thanks Sony! Looks like I might be going to the 65F9000 from my 65F8000! The only thing that concerns me is that stupid connect box.
Edited by JSteel - 9/21/13 at 10:44pm
post #400 of 772
The connect box is a hassle, the other thing that makes me want the Sony is the passive 3d on the x900. There are so many things to think about when choosing a new 4k set...hmmm which to go with?
post #401 of 772
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Originally Posted by MERKEY99 View Post

The connect box is a hassle, the other thing that makes me want the Sony is the passive 3d on the x900. There are so many things to think about when choosing a new 4k set...hmmm which to go with?

If I had the room for the X900, I would have had it by now but those speakers take up so much room that I do not have,
post #402 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

If I had the room for the X900, I would have had it by now but those speakers take up so much room that I do not have,

As you know, Sony now offers the 4k version X850A without the side speakers. Does that fit the space you need.
You're thinking about the upgrading to the Samsung F9000. Here's the sizes.

Sony 65" is... 58 1/4 x 34 x 2 5/8
Samsung 65" is... 57.6” x 33.0” x 1.6”
Edited by bekindrewind - 9/22/13 at 9:51am
post #403 of 772
I was going back and forth between getting a 4K set now or wait. Opted to wait on the 4K for numerous reasons. I ended up choosing the Samsung 65F8000. Really wanted the 75" but could not justify spending twice as much for it. Will pull the plug on an 84" 4K set when they continue to drop in price whenever that will be.
post #404 of 772
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

As you know, Sony now offers the 4k version X850A without the side speakers. Does that fit the space you need.
You're thinking about the upgrading to the Samsung F9000. Here's the sizes.

Sony 65" is... 58 1/4 x 34 x 2 5/8
Samsung 65" is... 57.6” x 33.0” x 1.6”


Yes, I know that Sony will be releasing that TV next weekend. The thing I like about the F9000 having the one connect box is that it is future proof. Granted, I would have to pay somewhere in the upwards of $500 for anew one connect box, but that is better than spending another 5K for a TV later. Sony will have the update to HDMI 2.0 through firmware soon but I will have to see both TVs in person to make the decision. I already have a Sony S790 that up converts to 4k and I know it is not true 4K but it will be nice to utilize that feature and have more pixels on the screen. The plus side with the one connect though is that I can hide it behind the TV and I don't have to worry about the HDMI cables having a hard time sitting flush against the TV. I already have the 65F8000, will get the 65F9000 and call it good for 5 years.
post #405 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

Hey Guys,

Just noticed on the BB website that in due to the Sony XBR-65X850A coming out at 4999.98, BB dropped the price of the 65F9000 to 4999.99! Just checked Samsung website and they did the same as well with no end date in site so this reduction is permanent! Thanks Sony! Looks like I might be going to the 65F9000 from my 65F8000! The only thing that concerns me is that stupid connect box.

The F9000 deal is not permanent.
post #406 of 772
Hey guys just saw the price of the 55" dropped on amazon to 3,499. I'm deciding between this model and the sony 4k 55" that's retailing for the same price.

Can anyone shed some light on the differences and why they chose one over another?
post #407 of 772
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

The F9000 deal is not permanent.

So you really think that Samsung is going to price their TV $1000 over the Sony 4K that is coming out this week? That would be a bad move on their part if they do, but from looking on their site, there is no end date for the sale. Hell, they don't even call it a sale on their site which leaves me to believe it is permanent. We shall see..
post #408 of 772
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by whasaaaab View Post

Actually Lg is thinking next year sometime
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123483-lg-77-inch-4k-ultra-hd-oled-tv-pictures-and-eyes-on-stunning
I have heard about OLED being released in full flow for 4 years now at CES, I will believe it when it happens. A 77" unit, guess that would run 30K-40K ?
--I can understand how watching a curved set would be ok, however it will not look so good wall mounted........
post #409 of 772
Question, does this TV have cinema black? Looked at all the specs and could not find any information about it. Thanks.
post #410 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

Question, does this TV have cinema black? Looked at all the specs and could not find any information about it. Thanks.

No it does not....However I do not think it needs it with the amount of local dimming zones and the added pixels that produce a very good black level.

I compare that function on my f8000 to the lack there of the function on my f9000 and the f9000 seems to be just as good when the f8000 cinema black is on high.
post #411 of 772
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Originally Posted by MERKEY99 View Post

No it does not....However I do not think it needs it with the amount of local dimming zones and the added pixels that produce a very good black level.

I compare that function on my f8000 to the lack there of the function on my f9000 and the f9000 seems to be just as good when the f8000 cinema black is on high.

Ok. I hope so. I know it works well on my F8000. Hate to go up and lose this feature. But you say it is just as good. I hope that is true.
post #412 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

So you really think that Samsung is going to price their TV $1000 over the Sony 4K that is coming out this week? That would be a bad move on their part if they do, but from looking on their site, there is no end date for the sale. Hell, they don't even call it a sale on their site which leaves me to believe it is permanent. We shall see..

Yes, I do. Do you really think that Samsung considers themselves as "equals" with Sony? They will maintain a price premium. They are simply trying to take some steam out of the Sony launch.

Regarding an end date, sale price typically don't list an end date. Bundles usually do, just not instant rebates.
post #413 of 772
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Originally Posted by dutchedoven View Post

Hey guys just saw the price of the 55" dropped on amazon to 3,499. I'm deciding between this model and the sony 4k 55" that's retailing for the same price.

Can anyone shed some light on the differences and why they chose one over another?

There are a few differences between the sets.

The looks are a little different, depending on if your going for the speakerless Sony or the slimmer newer one. The differences in the sony sets is the 3D on the speaker version is passive where the speakerless version is Active. This would be the difference on the Samsung as well as it is Active.

Sony uses triluminos for their color display tech, not sure if this is some great invention but they advertise it as one.

Samsung is big on advertising the local and micro dimming to control blacks and help with contrast of colors. Sony also has the diming but it seems Samsung advertises it a bit more as sony does for the triluminos tech.

The differences are really brand Name vs. brand Name. Which would one person like better a Ferrari or Lamborghini?

Both seem to be top of the line with each company having their own issues. Some people bash Sony and some bash Samsung.

Sony also has available 4K content right now but that might change with PS4. Unless sony somehow locks the PS4 with some sort of download patent that only allows the content to be shown on a Sony 4K set like they did with the black box they use now (not sure how they would do this but I have seen crazier things happen).

To say which is better is only for each individual. I really enjoy my f9000 when it works which is hardly ever. I will get a picture for an hour and then I get half a screen. But when it works it looks absolutely beautiful. I really enjoy this 4K tech.

If I did not have so many problems with the 2 sets I bought from Samsung (75"f800 and 65f9000) I would just let them replace the f9000 If the parts where not on back order for 18 months (crazy) and I would be happy. As it sits I am looking to try another company to see what the sets are like. To be honest when I get the refund and start to look at the Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, and LG sets, if they don't impress me as the Samsung did I will most likely purchase the Samsung again but at the reduced price smile.gif (Im getting a refund for 7499+tax= 8200 which is what I paid for it when it first came out, so I wouldn't want to keep it now even if Samsung got the parts in on time but at 5000 it is a really nice deal)
post #414 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

Ok. I hope so. I know it works well on my F8000. Hate to go up and lose this feature. But you say it is just as good. I hope that is true.

Also keep in mind that each set and panel are different. Many people have shown pics of their f8000's with terrible bleeding around the corners with cinema on. I still notice a little bleed on both sets, but to my eyes the f9000 does just as good a job with out the option.

Good luck on getting a good panel I am sure you will enjoy it!
post #415 of 772
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Yes, I do. Do you really think that Samsung considers themselves as "equals" with Sony? They will maintain a price premium. They are simply trying to take some steam out of the Sony launch.

Regarding an end date, sale price typically don't list an end date. Bundles usually do, just not instant rebates.

The reason I say that is because they had an end date posted when my TV went on sale.
post #416 of 772
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Originally Posted by MERKEY99 View Post

Also keep in mind that each set and panel are different. Many people have shown pics of their f8000's with terrible bleeding around the corners with cinema on. I still notice a little bleed on both sets, but to my eyes the f9000 does just as good a job with out the option.

Good luck on getting a good panel I am sure you will enjoy it!

How many sets have you gone through so far?
post #417 of 772
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Yes, I do. Do you really think that Samsung considers themselves as "equals" with Sony? They will maintain a price premium. They are simply trying to take some steam out of the Sony launch.

Regarding an end date, sale price typically don't list an end date. Bundles usually do, just not instant rebates.

It will be interesting to see if Panasonic does the same thing. I can understand Samsung starting out high but with so many options coming available now it would not be a smart marketing idea to raise the set too high above the rest if all the others are at 4500-5000.

I can see Samsung raising back up to 6000 if Panasonic, LG, and Sharp keep their TV's at 6000 also.
post #418 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

How many sets have you gone through so far?

Regarding the f8000 I have had 1 exchange and 2 panel replacements. I am still waiting on the second replacement to come in. frown.gif

With the f9000 I have only had 1 set. It also needs a replacement panel and a replacement one connect box, for whatever the reasoning Samsung has these parts on back order and have offered me a full refund or exchange. Considering all the issues with both sets and with all the recent price drops, I have decided to get the full refund of 8200 and shop around a little bit. In the end if I cant find the satisfaction I have had with the f9000 in any other set I will be buying it again at the 5000 price or 6000 if they raise it again hahah. I really did like the set when it worked, but with the options out there I figure try some others out while I can.biggrin.gif
post #419 of 772
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Originally Posted by MERKEY99 View Post

Regarding the f8000 I have had 1 exchange and 2 panel replacements. I am still waiting on the second replacement to come in. frown.gif

With the f9000 I have only had 1 set. It also needs a replacement panel and a replacement one connect box, for whatever the reasoning Samsung has these parts on back order and have offered me a full refund or exchange. Considering all the issues with both sets and with all the recent price drops, I have decided to get the full refund of 8200 and shop around a little bit. In the end if I cant find the satisfaction I have had with the f9000 in any other set I will be buying it again at the 5000 price or 6000 if they raise it again hahah. I really did like the set when it worked, but with the options out there I figure try some others out while I can.biggrin.gif

Wow, the one connect box going bad is interesting. Yours had to be a lemon to have that many issues. I am going to take the plunge today and see what happens.
post #420 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

Wow, the one connect box going bad is interesting. Yours had to be a lemon to have that many issues. I am going to take the plunge today and see what happens.

That's what I figured as well, Samsung has taken care of me very well so when I look at other 4k sets they will have to be just as nice or I will be going with the f9000 again.
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