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post #511 of 772
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

Merkey curious to think about your opinion on the Sony since you had both the F8000 and F9000. I went back to trade in my F658000 for the Sony 65X900 but did not like the colors of the x900. (my opinion) Red's were too over saturated vs the other colors. Picture did not look real to me. Heard people seem to like the x850. Please post your thoughts if you pull the trigger on the Sony. I myself am going to wait it out on 4K. Thank God my F8000 is working fine for over a month now.

In the Sony thread 1 person has said they think the matte film on the screen ruins the x850. I don't know for myself but. But you can edit the x900s settings to get the desired color. You don't have to stick to the out of the box settings. I honestly feel the Samsung was a rip off and I didn't see any improvement in picture quality over the f8000. I asked my wife and 2 others and they all prefered the f8000 over the f9000! And me being a tech geek and knowing what should be the answer I was like are you sure??? I was disappointed with the TV and the haloing/glow plus Im over the way they back light the sets. Its very hard to watch moving scenes in a movie and you can see back light discrepancy. I recommend avoiding them. But this is my opinion and everyone is different.
post #512 of 772
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

Merkey curious to think about your opinion on the Sony since you had both the F8000 and F9000. I went back to trade in my F658000 for the Sony 65X900 but did not like the colors of the x900. (my opinion) Red's were too over saturated vs the other colors. Picture did not look real to me. Heard people seem to like the x850. Please post your thoughts if you pull the trigger on the Sony. I myself am going to wait it out on 4K. Thank God my F8000 is working fine for over a month now.

I have not gotten the x900 yet but when I do I will post a comparison. I am also interested in the Panasonic wt600, it looks pretty nice from what I have seen. I don't think I'll be going for the x850 due to the different panel and if I get a Sony and there is an option for passive 3rd I would like to have the passive set.
post #513 of 772
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

Merkey curious to think about your opinion on the Sony since you had both the F8000 and F9000. I went back to trade in my F658000 for the Sony 65X900 but did not like the colors of the x900. (my opinion) Red's were too over saturated vs the other colors. Picture did not look real to me. Heard people seem to like the x850. Please post your thoughts if you pull the trigger on the Sony. I myself am going to wait it out on 4K. Thank God my F8000 is working fine for over a month now.
Its situations like this where you may want to think about custom calibration. Typically any high end unit can be made to look like you personally want. Some might say that calibration is something you should not have to do, it should be its best out of the box. Some units are closer to being the best it can be out of the box. In the end every unit is off to some degree....
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As i do agree that once calibrated you can make a set look as you want, I in the past had my 60" Sony SXRD professionally calibrated by a very popular calibrator and was not impressed with the picture at all. I ended up going back to my own settings. For me, it is what looks good to my eyes and not someone else.
post #515 of 772
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Originally Posted by mroadster158 View Post

As i do agree that once calibrated you can make a set look as you want, I in the past had my 60" Sony SXRD professionally calibrated by a very popular calibrator and was not impressed with the picture at all. I ended up going back to my own settings. For me, it is what looks good to my eyes and not someone else.


Blasphemer! How dare you enjoy your set in your home the way you like it!!

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I've got the Samsung UE65F9000 and am absolutely delighted with the picture quality up-scaled from 1080p but I can't find any 4k content that will play. If anyone knows where I can locate the Samsung demo files which are played in-store or any other files which can be played via usb, can you let me know where I can find these?

 

Thanks

post #517 of 772
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Originally Posted by Gillietalls View Post

Congrats. I went from the Samsung to Sony myself and haven't looked back. No regrets.

I went from the 65" Sony to the 65" samsung and I feel the Samsung is a much better TV if you don't care about the speakers on the sony. Picture quality on samsung seems better, and better features overall - it's nice how the Samsung comes with a IR blaster and controls your cable/satellite box automatically.
post #518 of 772
Hey guys i was wondering i got the UN55F9000 about a month ago and the issue i am having is that the one connect cable that comes in the box is kind of short.. I tried to call samsung and they are clueless about the products they sell apparently no one really knows about this model.. My question is does anyone here know about or how to go about getting a longer cable i am having a house built with a room for all my av equipment and the tv has a proprietary hookup and the room is going to be a good 30-40 feet away from the tv
post #519 of 772
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Originally Posted by tb42 View Post

Hey guys i was wondering i got the UN55F9000 about a month ago and the issue i am having is that the one connect cable that comes in the box is kind of short.. I tried to call samsung and they are clueless about the products they sell apparently no one really knows about this model.. My question is does anyone here know about or how to go about getting a longer cable i am having a house built with a room for all my av equipment and the tv has a proprietary hookup and the room is going to be a good 30-40 feet away from the tv

Samsung does not currently make a longer version of this cable. Perhaps even more troubling, they have no plans to make a longer version. This is coming from Samsung directly. You should just be able to run a long HDMI cable or two though and leave the One Connect box behind your TV. Probably a much cheaper route to go anyway. A 40ft proprietary cable would likely cost about half the price of the television, that is, if the cable would support that length to begin with.
post #520 of 772
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Originally Posted by codee View Post

I went from the 65" Sony to the 65" samsung and I feel the Samsung is a much better TV if you don't care about the speakers on the sony. Picture quality on samsung seems better, and better features overall - it's nice how the Samsung comes with a IR blaster and controls your cable/satellite box automatically.

Congrats and welcome!! I looked at both the Sony and Samsung for over a week before I picked and the Samsung won me over due to the clearness of the upscaling and no side speakers. I felt that I got a better picture with the Samsung and more features as well. The IR Blaster is cool, just hate that stupid STB notice that keeps coming up when I switch sources on my AVR. The one connect box is a future proof design and I love it! The proprietary cable that it connects to the TV is heard to be a modified display port which can handle 4k content. Being that the One connect box is a separate piece of equipment, it makes it easier for Samsung to keep this TV updated. I have never been more happier with a TV purchase. Uniformity is great, and the pictures are breathtaking!
post #521 of 772
Good morning, my tv 55F9000 just started receiving an update (1008). Does any of you know s the log file?
post #522 of 772
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Originally Posted by GeorgeFromCrete View Post

Good morning, my tv 55F9000 just started receiving an update (1008). Does any of you know s the log file?

I have not gotten this update yet. My TV is on 1102.2 Firmware. I do have a maintenance schedule notice popping up on my TV. I think it is part of the Vumeo update that Samsung is installing on all of their Smart TVs. I am not sure though.
post #523 of 772
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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

I have not gotten this update yet. My TV is on 1102.2 Firmware. I do have a maintenance schedule notice popping up on my TV. I think it is part of the Vumeo update that Samsung is installing on all of their Smart TVs. I am not sure though.

I was talking about 1008 ver. (why not receded 1102.2 like you????)
European model Greece.
post #524 of 772
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Originally Posted by GeorgeFromCrete View Post

I was talking about 1008 ver. (why not receded 1102.2 like you????)
European model Greece.

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Originally Posted by JSteel View Post

I have not gotten this update yet. My TV is on 1102.2 Firmware. I do have a maintenance schedule notice popping up on my TV. I think it is part of the Vumeo update that Samsung is installing on all of their Smart TVs. I am not sure though.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeFromCrete View Post

Good morning, my tv 55F9000 just started receiving an update (1008). Does any of you know s the log file?

Nothing seemed to changed!
post #525 of 772
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Originally Posted by codee View Post

I went from the 65" Sony to the 65" samsung and I feel the Samsung is a much better TV if you don't care about the speakers on the sony. Picture quality on samsung seems better, and better features overall - it's nice how the Samsung comes with a IR blaster and controls your cable/satellite box automatically.

I was wondering what your feeling is on juttering between the two. Some folks say fast moving TV like football shows the juttering on the Samsung. I did notice on the Sony 4k loop promo very bad juttering during the soccer portion of the promo. Someone added that may because the bandwidth issue with 1.4hdmi. What ur opinion on 1080 sports on the Sammy.
post #526 of 772
How in the world would anyone ever think that you can make 1080 look better than it already is! At this point you can't! 4K or not!
post #527 of 772
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Originally Posted by 70383roadrunner View Post

How in the world would anyone ever think that you can make 1080 look better than it already is! At this point you can't! 4K or not!

Have you not seeing 4K? Of course it looks better than 1080p.
post #528 of 772
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Originally Posted by 70383roadrunner View Post

How in the world would anyone ever think that you can make 1080 look better than it already is! At this point you can't! 4K or not!
1080P on a good set is excellent no-a-days. However 4K is crisper and cleaner from the right viewing distance.
post #529 of 772
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

1080P on a good set is excellent no-a-days. However 4K is crisper and cleaner from the right viewing distance.

Well said Chris. +1...the right viewing distance....as has been discussed on many threads.
post #530 of 772
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Well said Chris. +1...the right viewing distance....as has been discussed on many threads.

The 4 biggest factor of 4K viewing are viewing distance, display size, 4K codec and viewers eyesight. The closer you sit, the better it looks. The bigger your display, the better it looks. The better the codec, the better it looks. The better your eyesight, the better it look. The most common 4K codecs are still using old h.264 tech or eyeIO's modified version which compress it down to about 50GB for the average movie. 4K BD has up to 100GB available and will most likely use the superior HEVC h.265 codec.
post #531 of 772
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

The 4 biggest factor of 4K viewing are viewing distance, display size, 4K codec and viewers eyesight. The closer you sit, the better it looks. The bigger your display, the better it looks. The better the codec, the better it looks. The better your eyesight, the better it look. The most common 4K codecs are still using old h.264 tech or eyeIO's modified version which compress it down to about 50GB for the average movie. 4K BD has up to 100GB available and will most likely use the superior HEVC h.265 codec.
I be glad when that happens HEVC h.265
post #532 of 772
Is anyone else having an issue with a service maintenance notification popping up every time you turn on the TV? It's driving me crazy, the pop up happens after the set has been on for at least a minute and screws with the show I'm watching. I called samsung asking how I disable notifications and they said I can't! I'm on the UN55F9000

I just now disabled the internet and that appears to have solved the issue yet I shouldn't have to disconnect my TV from the internet in order to fix this.
post #533 of 772
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Originally Posted by dutchedoven View Post

Is anyone else having an issue with a service maintenance notification popping up every time you turn on the TV? It's driving me crazy, the pop up happens after the set has been on for at least a minute and screws with the show I'm watching. I called samsung asking how I disable notifications and they said I can't! I'm on the UN55F9000

I just now disabled the internet and that appears to have solved the issue yet I shouldn't have to disconnect my TV from the internet in order to fix this.

I think there is a spot under the Systems Menu for Notifications. I don't know if there is an off or on for it, but you can start by checking there. I am currently not home so I cannot say for sure.
post #534 of 772
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Originally Posted by starchild View Post

I was wondering what your feeling is on juttering between the two. Some folks say fast moving TV like football shows the juttering on the Samsung. I did notice on the Sony 4k loop promo very bad juttering during the soccer portion of the promo. Someone added that may because the bandwidth issue with 1.4hdmi. What ur opinion on 1080 sports on the Sammy.

I haven't noticed any issues during sports (although I have only watched football so far) on the Samsung, the only time i saw a slight issue was during Grand Theft Auto 5 on the Xbox during a cut scene when the camera panned around but I am willing to get that is just an issue with the Xbox being 6 years old in general and not able to keep up anymore. There isn't anything about this set that I dislike aside from the warning message about the STB being powered down even though its not. Picture quality is top notch!

The Sony was less impressive overall, some content would look VERY soft, and did have issues while a camera was panning or something similar.
post #535 of 772
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Originally Posted by 70383roadrunner View Post

How in the world would anyone ever think that you can make 1080 look better than it already is! At this point you can't! 4K or not!

You DEFINETLY haven't seen a 4K TV.
post #536 of 772
How are you guys connecting components to your One Connect box? I currently have everything (Xbox, PS3, Dish Network STB, HTPC, WiiU, and Roku) going through my receiver (Denon AVR-4520CI) and then my receiver going to port 3 (Only one with the ARC). Problem is, when I switch inputs on the Denon I get a message that pops up on the TV saying the STB has been powered down and to push enter to turn it back on. I can't clear that screen, I must wait for it to go away on its own. I'm not sure if its related to the initial setup where the remote controls my dishnetwork box (I don't like that, as some of the remote buttons won't work for the TV at all such as the info button) but it is inconvenient. 95% of the time i'm on Xbox, Dish, Roku, or HTPC for Gaming or XBMC. The roku is for Netflix and Amazon Prime only which I could do on the TV and eliminate the Roku entirely but I get consistent but random audio dropouts when using the ARC. Not sure if it's the TV or the Denon...both are expensive pieces of equipment so I would like to believe it would work flawlessly.


Basically....Anyone using the ARC and do you experience audio dropouts? The receiver doesn't lose signal, it just does silent for a brief moment. I would like to put the Xbox and PS3 on dedicated inputs on the one connect box to have "permanent" settings for gaming devices.

Thanks
post #537 of 772
Codee
Thanks for your input. Football pan shots would certainly show judder. Glad to hear you haven't noticed this issue. You can definitely see this issue on any of the Sony 4k demos. During the soccer loop the ball judder across screen. Someone said that is likely a frame rate issue with the media server at 1.4hdmi. Maybe resolved with a 2.0 update. Did you see this issue with the Sony during football from your stb?
I also agree with the slight softness you were seeing. Its a personal preference I guess.
post #538 of 772
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Originally Posted by starchild View Post

Codee
Thanks for your input. Football pan shots would certainly show judder. Glad to hear you haven't noticed this issue. You can definitely see this issue on any of the Sony 4k demos. During the soccer loop the ball judder across screen. Someone said that is likely a frame rate issue with the media server at 1.4hdmi. Maybe resolved with a 2.0 update. Did you see this issue with the Sony during football from your stb?
I also agree with the slight softness you were seeing. Its a personal preference I guess.

I honestly didn't even get a chance to watch football on the sony at all, but I will say that I wasn't impressed at all with ANY of the other content that I watched - including 1080p blurays such as this is the end (mastered in 4k I read). The sony didn't feel like an upgrade at all from my previous plasma whereas the Samsung looked like I actually got an improvement for my money. And this is before the set is calibrated professionally even
post #539 of 772
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Originally Posted by codee View Post

How are you guys connecting components to your One Connect box? I currently have everything (Xbox, PS3, Dish Network STB, HTPC, WiiU, and Roku) going through my receiver (Denon AVR-4520CI) and then my receiver going to port 3 (Only one with the ARC). Problem is, when I switch inputs on the Denon I get a message that pops up on the TV saying the STB has been powered down and to push enter to turn it back on. I can't clear that screen, I must wait for it to go away on its own. I'm not sure if its related to the initial setup where the remote controls my dishnetwork box (I don't like that, as some of the remote buttons won't work for the TV at all such as the info button) but it is inconvenient. 95% of the time i'm on Xbox, Dish, Roku, or HTPC for Gaming or XBMC. The roku is for Netflix and Amazon Prime only which I could do on the TV and eliminate the Roku entirely but I get consistent but random audio dropouts when using the ARC. Not sure if it's the TV or the Denon...both are expensive pieces of equipment so I would like to believe it would work flawlessly.


Basically....Anyone using the ARC and do you experience audio dropouts? The receiver doesn't lose signal, it just does silent for a brief moment. I would like to put the Xbox and PS3 on dedicated inputs on the one connect box to have "permanent" settings for gaming devices.

Thanks

I disabled the STB notifications on the TV by disabling the STB feature all together. I have a similar setup with everything running into a pioneer sc-71 then to the samsung F9000 through the HDMI1 port, don't use the arc feature. Have you tried testing it out with another HDMI input to see if you have the same issue?

I posted earlier about not being able to disable the notifications, spoke to samsung customer service just now and fixed the issue through a reset on the TV. No longer notifies me when I turn the TV on yet I'd still like to see an option on the menu to permanently disable this.
post #540 of 772
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Originally Posted by dutchedoven View Post

I disabled the STB notifications on the TV by disabling the STB feature all together. I have a similar setup with everything running into a pioneer sc-71 then to the samsung F9000 through the HDMI1 port, don't use the arc feature. Have you tried testing it out with another HDMI input to see if you have the same issue?

I posted earlier about not being able to disable the notifications, spoke to samsung customer service just now and fixed the issue through a reset on the TV. No longer notifies me when I turn the TV on yet I'd still like to see an option on the menu to permanently disable this.

Dutchedoven,

How did you exactly disable the STB pop-up? You said that you disabled the feature. How did you go about that? Thanks for you input.
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